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Question for the group: Selling multiple copies, same kit

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Doug - 13 Aug 2005 21:01 GMT
Greetings, all!

I have been posting FAs here to raise money for a nonprofit
organization, ACPR. This was a collection of model kits that was
donated to us. I was just going through some of the collection to see
what we have and now I have a question for you all.

The young man who was collecting and building these kits 35 years ago
sometimes bought more than one copy of the same kit to use in
customizing. For example, I just came across four copies of AMT T149
1949 Ford Club Coupe. He had begun assembly but didn't complete it and
he'd borrowed pieces from the different kits.

Were I a builder, I wouldn't want an incomplete kit. Similarly, if I
planned to customize a kit, I would want to have the extra parts
available. Therefore, I think it would be best to sell all the similar
and incomplete kits together as one. I would, of course, fully
disclose the state of all kits along with detailed pictures on our web
site, as I have been doing.

I am neither a builder nor a collector. I'm just a volunteer trying to
raise money for ACPR. So I don't know the finer points of the hobby. I
would very much appreciate whatever thoughts you might have on this.

Many thanks!

Doug
masterpiecemodels - 13 Aug 2005 21:12 GMT
Please try http://www.modelersswapmeet.com to sell your kits
it is a new site for buying selling and trading. right now it is free
We also host the photos of the kits for you
thanks
John

> Greetings, all!
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> Doug
Dan - 13 Aug 2005 23:40 GMT
> Please try http://www.blahblahblahto sell your kits
> it is a new site for buying selling and trading. right now it is free
> We also host the photos of the kits for you
> thanks
> John

I think he was asking for advice, not to have you jump on his topic and spam
for your site.

>> Greetings, all!
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>> Doug

I'm not sure what you mean by selling the kits together.  I wouldn't try to
sell the kits as a lot, just be sure to list any known problems with them.
The customers can then decide if they want to buy one or more of the kits.
masterpiecemodels - 13 Aug 2005 23:46 GMT
Doesn't matter if I was plugging the site or not I am just giving him a
venue to sell the models. Besides it is free If I was charging for the
service it would be spam.

>>Please try http://www.blahblahblahto sell your kits
>>it is a new site for buying selling and trading. right now it is free
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> sell the kits as a lot, just be sure to list any known problems with them.
> The customers can then decide if they want to buy one or more of the kits.
maiesm72@netscape.com - 13 Aug 2005 23:58 GMT
Is it just me or are a very small number of people on this forum
getting all bent out of shape whenever someone wants to sell or trade
anything here? Why? Selling, trading and supplying sources has been
going on here since the group was founded. If you don't like it don't
open it. Why is that so hard for some people to figure out.

Please killfile me now as I am going to post some FS items soon.

Tom
e - 14 Aug 2005 00:35 GMT
>Is it just me or are a very small number of people on this forum
>getting all bent out of shape whenever someone wants to sell or trade
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>Tom

there have been a few over eager sellers.
you may have missed a few tom.
i just kf them.
Shawn - 14 Aug 2005 00:41 GMT
> Is it just me or are a very small number of people on this forum
> getting all bent out of shape whenever someone wants to sell or trade
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> Tom

its not the fs or fa post that people are bitching about, its those who post
multiple posts with one auction in each rather than a single post with all
the auctions listed
WmB - 14 Aug 2005 00:54 GMT
"Shawn" <askme@aserversomewhere.com> wrote in message news:8zvLe.246885
> its not the fs or fa post that people are bitching about, its those who
> post multiple posts with one auction in each rather than a single post
> with all the auctions listed

That was my understanding of the beef.  Just put the links in one post and
maybe call out in the msg header the total number of listings or kits. I
tended to keep an eye out for sellers with multiple listings so I could work
out an arrangement on combining the shipping costs - ahead of time of
course, not after I won. ;-)

I used to be a power buyer on ebay once upon a time - that's code speak for
"you ought to see the unbuilt stash" rotting under my roof. ;-)  Dwindling
amounts of space and money cured me of that pleasure - haven't bid on any
kits in several years. I hear it's a real wild west show even more so than
before with rising ebay fees and shipping costs prompting some sellers to
take "padding" to a whole new level.

Good luck to honest buyers and sellers alike.

WmB
masterpiecemodels - 14 Aug 2005 09:14 GMT
> "Shawn" <askme@aserversomewhere.com> wrote in message news:8zvLe.246885
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> WMB
Your point regarding padding is why we started modelersswapmeet
for modelers by modelers when we do charge the price will be about .15
per kit to sell that is it. No final value fees ect,ect. Ebay has become
a real wild west and their prices are showing that fact.
cheers
John
masterpiecemodels - 14 Aug 2005 09:09 GMT
You tell him Tom this forum has been a great trading place for years

> Is it just me or are a very small number of people on this forum
> getting all bent out of shape whenever someone wants to sell or trade
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> Tom
WmB - 14 Aug 2005 00:42 GMT
> Greetings, all!
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> Doug

I'm guessing that putting the one incomplete kit together with a complete
kit of the same type would do nicely for most bidders. If their are
additional copies of that same kit, than maybe list them individually or
together using Ebay's Dutch auction feature.

WmB
Les Pickstock - 14 Aug 2005 02:09 GMT
> Greetings, all!
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> Doug

    Having sold on kits on a well known auction site  I suggest that you
list them either individually or as 2 lots of 2.  It would help if you could
just run an eye over all the boxes and at least try to sort the parts. If
you use the instruction sheet you can get an idea if anything major is
missing.  Also you can check to see that, for example, that all the right
hand doors don't end up in one box.  Partly completed kits have sold before,
but like all auctions its a gamble.
Mad-Modeller - 14 Aug 2005 04:59 GMT
> Greetings, all!
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> 1949 Ford Club Coupe. He had begun assembly but didn't complete it and
> he'd borrowed pieces from the different kits.

Sounds like the way I build.

> Were I a builder, I wouldn't want an incomplete kit.

Actually a builder would be more interested in an incomplete kit that a
collector.  I just lost out on an incomplete Thomas Flyer that I wanted
just for the leftover parts.

> Similarly, if I
> planned to customize a kit, I would want to have the extra parts
> available. Therefore, I think it would be best to sell all the similar
> and incomplete kits together as one. I would, of course, fully
> disclose the state of all kits along with detailed pictures on our web
> site, as I have been doing.

As others suggest below, you might want to make sure what's in the box
and whether a complete model is possible.  You might also find parts
from other kits in the boxes if the builder had plans to use those on a
model.
That bunching them might work too.  I've had mixed results with my
attempts at that.

> I am neither a builder nor a collector. I'm just a volunteer trying to
> raise money for ACPR. So I don't know the finer points of the hobby. I
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> Doug

I hope I helped a little.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Doug - 15 Aug 2005 01:01 GMT
Thanks to all who responded to my question. Whenever I photograph the
parts for an auction, I always try to match them up. Sometimes there's
a parts list, sometimes not. If all the parts are still attached to
the trees, it's easy. Otherwise I try to match the disconnected parts
to the trees.

With some of these cannibalized kits, it's tough, especially if the
original owner began assembly. I'll probably make my best guess as I
go through them. If I can find a complete kit, I'll sell it by itself.
If I have several incomplete kits of the same model, I'll probably
sell them together for those who are looking for parts.

It's gonna be interesting when I get to the end of this. I'll probably
have a big box or two of odds 'n' ends, including a box of original
spray paints. (I haven't tried any yet to see if they still have any
pressure in the can.) I'll probably sell the left overs with no
reserve but the shipping will be costly as it's a lot of stuff. The
donor just tossed everything into boxes and handed them to me. I have
no idea what all is in there!

Thanks again!

Doug
Mad-Modeller - 15 Aug 2005 07:04 GMT
Doug, I feel for you as I have done such a chore for a friend who used
to sell on E-bay.  He wanted to make note of everything missing, painted
or assembled for his buyers.  Fortunately I've had enough experience
with models to do reasonably well at it.  I also got to look at a lot of
kits that I'd never bought myself nor seen on the stores' shelves.
I couldn't afford them but I got to fondle them. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE
 
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