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RiverMan - 17 Aug 2005 05:31 GMT
My Iwata eclipse is spraying paint as soon as I press the air
switch/valve.  Generally I can press the air valve and paint won't
start to flow until I start bringing the valve back.  Anyone have an
idea as to why this might be happening?  Please don't tell me the tip
is damaged!  I have only used the brush for an hour since repairing it
last time!  Great brush but thus far has not proven in the least bit
reliable.

Thx.
RM
Dave Ambrose - 17 Aug 2005 06:14 GMT
> My Iwata eclipse is spraying paint as soon as I press the air
> switch/valve.  Generally I can press the air valve and paint won't
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> last time!  Great brush but thus far has not proven in the least bit
> reliable.

    Sounds like the metering needle isn't fully seated. I'm assuming it's
like my Iwata BC. Unscrew the cover on the rear part of the handle. This
should reveal the back end of the needle and a knurled chuck to hold it.
Loosen the chuck, push the needle all the way in (gently!), and tighten
the chuck. Screw the cover back on and you should be all set.

    Regards,
    Dave Ambrose
e - 17 Aug 2005 06:37 GMT
>> My Iwata eclipse is spraying paint as soon as I press the air
>> switch/valve.  Generally I can press the air valve and paint won't
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>        Regards,
>        Dave Ambrose

my passche will also do this if it is not absolutely squeaky
clean.
rwsmithjr@rcn.com - 17 Aug 2005 08:12 GMT
> My Iwata eclipse is spraying paint as soon as I press the air
> switch/valve.  Generally I can press the air valve and paint won't
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thx.
> RM

Clean it.
RiverMan - 18 Aug 2005 02:38 GMT
Hey thanks guys!  I will try seating the needle better and making sure
it's clean!  Not sure what more I can do to clean it tho than I already
am. I take the front nozzle piece off, the cone behind it, then the
back cover, loosen the chuck, pull out the needle. Gently clean the
needle, reinstall it.  I run hot water through everything (using
acrylics) then put it all back together. I looks flawlessly clean, is
there anything else I should be doing?  

Thx again.

RM
e - 18 Aug 2005 04:29 GMT
>Hey thanks guys!  I will try seating the needle better and making sure
>it's clean!  Not sure what more I can do to clean it tho than I already
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>
>RM

just the seating. you got the clean knocked.
Pip Moss - 18 Aug 2005 15:58 GMT
>> Hey thanks guys!  I will try seating the needle better and making sure
>> it's clean!  Not sure what more I can do to clean it tho than I already
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>>
> just the seating. you got the clean knocked.

If acrylic paint dried in the nozzle, hot water wouldn't necessarily get it
all out. Try using lacquer thinner -- it cuts basically anything. I dip the
needle in thinner and then insert it in the nozzle and (gently) use it as a
swab.
Pip Moss
srh0098@hotmail.com - 19 Aug 2005 16:39 GMT
> >> Hey thanks guys!  I will try seating the needle better and making sure
> >> it's clean!  Not sure what more I can do to clean it tho than I already
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> swab.
> Pip Moss
Stephen Tontoni - 19 Aug 2005 17:59 GMT
I have an Iwata eclipse, internal mix single action brush, and have
found cleaning to be very easy. I have a box filled with shredded
flannel sheets, that has a small hole in the front and a large hole in
the back. I put that box against the vacuum of my spray booth, and shoot
paint cup after paint cup of lacquer thinner into the box at very high
pressure. Those of you with CO2 systems wouldn't like that; I use a
compressor.

After 3 or 4 cups, depending on the color I'd just used, it's shooting
clear thinner. The brush is clean enough to use for another color right
away, but if I don't plan to use it for a while (couple days) I will
disassemble the brush and clean the components separately.

Also, go to this link and click on Ted Holowchuk's modeling tips.
http://www.ipms-seattle.org/tips/hints.htm
srh0098@hotmail.com - 19 Aug 2005 16:45 GMT
. i sometime immerse my airbrush in oil  if they are acting funny\and
or simply get used to it, I use all kinds, badger ,pash, binks, and
easily spend more time cleanig than spraying.
Dave Ambrose - 19 Aug 2005 20:25 GMT
> Hey thanks guys!  I will try seating the needle better and making sure
> it's clean!  Not sure what more I can do to clean it tho than I already
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> acrylics) then put it all back together. I looks flawlessly clean, is
> there anything else I should be doing?  

I don't shoot acrylic, but my friend who does, uses a 50-50 mix of
denatured alcohol and windex to clean her airbrush. It should even
remove dried paint.

I run a bunch of solvent through the brush, then remove the needle and
gently wipe it off. I also run q-tips into hole where you insert the
cup. You can also run a pipe cleaner into the brush from the back.

Cheers,
Dave
Vess Irvine - 19 Aug 2005 22:36 GMT
My Iwata was giving me fits on the air control side of things. A drop of
WD-40 flowing down into the air valve spring mechanism (an enclosed part you
cannot dissasemble; where that plunger thingy plunges and where the hose
connects to the airbrush) did wonders.

It took me months to figure this out, including a side strategy of trying
out one of those plastic brushes.

I don't know if this is the same problem as yours.

But I am back to the Iwata, hopefully forever.

..../V

> My Iwata eclipse is spraying paint as soon as I press the air
> switch/valve.  Generally I can press the air valve and paint won't
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thx.
> RM
Joe Vincent - 21 Aug 2005 23:52 GMT
I'm not sure that is the best solution. I purchased a tiny (1oz I think)
tube of something called Super Lube. I lube the needle before
re-inserting it, and the air trigger plunger, too. It makes a world of
difference. It solved all my air valve sticking problems. Seems like I
got the Super Lube from Dixie Art & Airbursh for @ $7.00 - which I
thought was outlandish at first, but it's been well worth it.

> My Iwata was giving me fits on the air control side of things. A drop of
> WD-40 flowing down into the air valve spring mechanism (an enclosed part you
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>>Thx.
>>RM

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