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Ingo - 17 Aug 2005 11:50 GMT
...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
in case it accidentially touches the ground.
I need the english term for that for an online article but have no
idea.
TIA
Ingo
Observer - 17 Aug 2005 12:43 GMT
> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> TIA
> Ingo

Bumper, or tail-bumper perhaps?

Regards

PJM
Rufus - 17 Aug 2005 20:03 GMT
>>...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
>>little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> PJM

Yup.  That's what we called it on the T-45A.

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Rob van Riel - 17 Aug 2005 13:47 GMT
> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
> in case it accidentially touches the ground.
> I need the english term for that for an online article but have no
> idea.

I seem to recall them being referred to as tail skids.

Rob
Don Stauffer - 17 Aug 2005 15:23 GMT
> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> TIA
> Ingo

I have heard of it called the tail skid.  This is an old term for
conventional landing gear aircraft for the device that pre-dated the
tailwheel.  In days before paved runways, most planes had a skid there
rather than a wheel.

Aircraft terminology evolves with time, and it may well be called
something more modern by many.

As an aside, there is much in aircraft terminology that is French, not
English, even in English speaking countries.  Empanage, nacelle,
ailerons, etc. are all French terms that aviation has incorporated into
standard terminology.  Also, interestingly, in English there are a
number of terms in aviation that are carryovers from nautical terminology.
Richard Brooks - 17 Aug 2005 15:38 GMT
>> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
>> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> standard terminology.  Also, interestingly, in English there are a
> number of terms in aviation that are carryovers from nautical terminology.

Such as good old "two sixteen" (216) squadron at RAF Brize Norton.
<http://www.raf.mod.uk/squadrons/h216.html>

It could be still called a tail skid even though there is sometimes a
small wheel faired in.

Small things please boys too!  I remember a couple of crew members of a
VC10 proudly stating that they had a rat that hanged down to power the
aircraft's electrics in case of power failure.  It was ELRAT but it kept
them happy for ages!

Richard.
rwsmithjr@rcn.com - 17 Aug 2005 17:35 GMT
> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> TIA
> Ingo

Tail bumper.
Stephen Tontoni - 17 Aug 2005 19:28 GMT
> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> TIA
> Ingo

Sounds like you mean a tail bumper.

On a tricycle geared aircraft, such as a B-25, the bump under the tail
to protect the fuselage is usually called a bumper or tail bumper.

Tail skids predated tail wheels; those are for tail-dragger aircraft.
You can see examples of a tail skids on almost any WWI aircraft, then on
and many other aircraft through the 1930's.
Shawn - 17 Aug 2005 21:32 GMT
>> ...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
>> little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> You can see examples of a tail skids on almost any WWI aircraft, then on
> and many other aircraft through the 1930's.

So on tricycle craft it's called a tail bumper but for two wheelers its
called a tail skid?
Ive only heard of it as a tail skid myself though
Rufus - 18 Aug 2005 01:27 GMT
>>>...devices on aircraft, located under the rear fuselage, most often a
>>>little bulge...serves to protect the fuselage during takeoff or landing
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> called a tail skid?
> Ive only heard of it as a tail skid myself though

Yup.

A skid is intended to drag the ground...a bumper is intended to prevent
something from dragging the ground.

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Don Stauffer - 18 Aug 2005 14:47 GMT
> A skid is intended to drag the ground...a bumper is intended to prevent
> something from dragging the ground.

Incidently, there is another reason for the tail bumper.  With normal CG
location on a trike gear plane, the plane always sits with its nosewheel
on ground. Sometimes, during loading or unloading, or certain
maintenance, it is possible to move CG so far to rear that tail comes
down and bumps on ground.  That tail bumper prevents damage to rear
fuselage skin.
The Laws - 18 Aug 2005 15:49 GMT
>> A skid is intended to drag the ground...a bumper is intended to prevent
>> something from dragging the ground.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> it is possible to move CG so far to rear that tail comes down and bumps on
> ground.  That tail bumper prevents damage to rear fuselage skin.

I have read that without a fuel load the Grumman F7F Tigercat would sit on
its tail. Pete
Rufus - 18 Aug 2005 20:15 GMT
>> A skid is intended to drag the ground...a bumper is intended to
>> prevent something from dragging the ground.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> down and bumps on ground.  That tail bumper prevents damage to rear
> fuselage skin.

In the case of the T-45A (and a few others - just noticed there is what
appears to be a tail bumper on my Hunter kit...sitting right in front of
me) it's also posible to over-rotate the aircraft on takeoff if the
pilot gets a bit..."frisky" on the stick.

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Ingo Degenhardt - 18 Aug 2005 20:30 GMT
Thanks for all the kind answers. It took me another few minutes to
find out what CG stands for. :-)
>Now I only have to find out what a tail bumper is in german.
I can't imagine how this could be called here...

>> A skid is intended to drag the ground...a bumper is intended to prevent
>> something from dragging the ground.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>down and bumps on ground.  That tail bumper prevents damage to rear
>fuselage skin.
Mad Modeller - 19 Aug 2005 05:20 GMT

> Incidently, there is another reason for the tail bumper.  With normal CG
> location on a trike gear plane, the plane always sits with its nosewheel
> on ground. Sometimes, during loading or unloading, or certain
> maintenance, it is possible to move CG so far to rear that tail comes
> down and bumps on ground.  That tail bumper prevents damage to rear
> fuselage skin.

Stands are sometimes seen at airshows when they allow the public to walk
through.  But I've seen DC-10s sitting back on their tails when they
were loaded wrongly.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
crw59@earthlink.net - 17 Aug 2005 22:46 GMT
doesn't Jennifer Lopez have one of those?  :-)

Craig
Shawn - 17 Aug 2005 22:55 GMT
> doesn't Jennifer Lopez have one of those?  :-)
>
> Craig

i believe thats called a roomy trunk
e - 17 Aug 2005 23:25 GMT
>doesn't Jennifer Lopez have one of those?  :-)
>
>Craig

south park nailed her.
Kaliste Saloom - 18 Aug 2005 04:01 GMT
> >doesn't Jennifer Lopez have one of those?  :-)
> >
> >Craig
> >
> south park nailed her.

Apparently so did Marc Anthony. :)

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Kaliste Saloom
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Acadiana Plastic Modelers
Lafayette, Louisiana USA

e - 18 Aug 2005 04:31 GMT
>> In article <1124315180.818132.197400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>>
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>
>Apparently so did Marc Anthony. :)

among others.
 
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