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AV-8B/ Harrier II plus/ Super Harrier

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Ingo - 19 Aug 2005 13:18 GMT
Hi,
as always, investigation starts early...
I have here TwoBobs decal sheet for various OIF Harriers. The
instructions contain all the above mentioned (+Night attack).
I am a little bit confused about all these variants.
can anyone depict the (external) differences between them all?
For example what about the LERX?  65% LERX?  100%LERX
And GR7? different LERX's too?
Reason: I am planning to build a whole range of Harriers.
TIA
Ingo
Chek - 19 Aug 2005 17:49 GMT
> Hi,
> as always, investigation starts early...
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> TIA
> Ingo

The Harrier SIG at   http://harrier.hyperlinx.cz/start.htm
is one of the best places to check.
LERX are a whole saga on their own,but the info is out there
:)

Hope this helps,

Chek
Rufus - 19 Aug 2005 20:00 GMT
> Hi,
> as always, investigation starts early...
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> TIA
> Ingo

First, ALL of the USMC variants are designated "AV8B"...which I'll admit
is a bit confusing.  They are differentiated in series as: Day Attack
(the original "B"), Night Attack, and Radar AV8B.  Trainers are
designated TAV8B.

The original Day Attack variants (and the GR Mk.5, I think) had what is
known as 65% LERX - Leading Edge Root EXtentions - reduced to 65% of the
original design intent; hence the name.  They are the small extentions
at the leading edge of the wing root, near the upper fuselage.
Production Night Attack and Radar variants have full 100% LERX - the as
originally proposed design.  They are noticably larger and thicker.

A Night Attack jet may be distinguished from a Day Attack jet by the
addition of the FLIR on the nose, a second display in the cockpit,
Pegasus -408 engine, 100% LERX, upward firing chaff/flare, and an
extention of the ram air duct at the base of the fin.  The Radar jet
brings all that, plus the Radar nose shape.

British GR's are essetially the same airframe, but add stations to the
outrigger locations for additional AIM-9 carriage.

As always, check your references.

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Dave Fleming - 21 Aug 2005 12:21 GMT
>The original Day Attack variants (and the GR Mk.5, I think) had what is
>known as 65% LERX - Leading Edge Root EXtentions - reduced to 65% of the
>original design intent; hence the name.  They are the small extentions
>at the leading edge of the wing root, near the upper fuselage.
>Production Night Attack and Radar variants have full 100% LERX - the as
>originally proposed design.  They are noticably larger and thicker.

Quite a few of the initial production Night Attack variants had the
65% LERX fitted (Usually the ones painted grey/green)

>British GR's are essetially the same airframe, but add stations to the
>outrigger locations for additional AIM-9 carriage.

First 67 RAF Harrier IIs were fitted with 65% LERX, later ones had
100%. Only really  the pre-production aircraft have been refitted as
it is too expensive.

Other mods are a different tailcone and a flare dispenser under the
fuselage

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Rufus - 21 Aug 2005 20:24 GMT
>>The original Day Attack variants (and the GR Mk.5, I think) had what is
>>known as 65% LERX - Leading Edge Root EXtentions - reduced to 65% of the
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> Quite a few of the initial production Night Attack variants had the
> 65% LERX fitted (Usually the ones painted grey/green)

Yes - I believe that's correct.  I recall some debate as to when to
retrofit/incorporate them...tied to the fitment of the -408 engine, I
think.  But I won't swear to it.  I know that for a time there were a
mix of -406 and -408 engines in USMC service at the same time.

>>British GR's are essetially the same airframe, but add stations to the
>>outrigger locations for additional AIM-9 carriage.
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>
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All of the USMC variants retained the same dispenser arrangement on the
lower fuselage, as I recall.  The addition was four upward firing magazines.

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Dave Fleming - 22 Aug 2005 18:00 GMT
>> Other mods are a different tailcone and a flare dispenser under the
>> fuselage

>All of the USMC variants retained the same dispenser arrangement on the
>lower fuselage, as I recall.  The addition was four upward firing magazines.

The RAF one is a different shape - a 'wedge' proud of the surface

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Ingo Degenhardt - 19 Aug 2005 20:54 GMT
Ah thanks,
that gives a first overlook and something to dig into.
There is nothing I hate more than to find out something is completely
wrong on exactly the a/c I just completed. Most of all if it can't be
corrected.
 
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