Help: Looking for HMS Illustrious (WW2 British armoured carrier) references

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Gernot Hassenpflug - 23 Aug 2005 03:28 GMT

Dear all,

I managed to lay my paws on a Heller 1:400 Illustrious/Victorious kit,
and spent a fair bit of time (3 evenings) searching for references, in
English and Japanese, on the WWW. Unfortunately, such details as light
AA armament, camouflage, and even photographs are scarce and hard to
pin down to an exact period. So I suspect that I will have to fork out
for a book. I did not see many books on the class either, the most
promising appears to be the title "Illustrious and Implacable class
carriers" (I may have gotten the title wrong here, my search results
are at home). However, I am not sure if that book will give me the
information most suited to modelling the Illustrious at some point in
her WW2 career.

After-market parts are another area I looked at. WEM's 2-fret set and
a corrected bridge set appear to be the only dedicated sets for the
ship, and may need to be supplemented by sets including some USN
weaponry (quad and twin and maybe single 40mm Bofors).

I know that AOS used to print a book on the Victorious, which would be
ideal for her, is there any similarly detailed information available
on the WWW or in print on Illustrious?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,
Gernot Hassenpflug (returning to modeling after 2.5 year absence)

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GRAHAM WALKER - 23 Aug 2005 22:28 GMT

Look out on ebay for warship profile. 10 &11

> Dear all,
>
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> Respectfully,
> Gernot Hassenpflug (returning to modeling after 2.5 year absence)

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Gernot Hassenpflug - 23 Aug 2005 23:05 GMT

>>>>> "GRAHAM" == GRAHAM WALKER <graham.melanie@tesco.net> writes:

GRAHAM> Look out on ebay for warship profile. 10 &11 "Gernot
GRAHAM> Hassenpflug" <gh@nospam.com> wrote in message
GRAHAM> news:vc9oe7p5qvj.fsf@nospam.com...
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I managed to lay my paws on a Heller 1:400
>> Illustrious/Victorious kit, and spent a fair bit of time (3
>> evenings) searching for references, in English and Japanese, on
/.../

Thanks for the tip Graham, will do!

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Ralph Currell - 24 Aug 2005 23:05 GMT

<snip>

>I know that AOS used to print a book on the Victorious, which would be
>ideal for her, is there any similarly detailed information available
>on the WWW or in print on Illustrious?

As mentioned by another poster, Profile Publications Nos. 10 and 11
might be of use. I have these at home, so if you need scans of photos
or of the paint scheme for a particular period in her career I'd be
glad to help.

Regards,
Ralph Currell

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Gernot Hassenpflug - 28 Aug 2005 14:29 GMT

>>>>> "Ralph" == Ralph Currell <models@currell.net> writes:

Ralph> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:28:00 +0900, Gernot Hassenpflug
Ralph> <gh@nospam.com>
Ralph> wrote:

Ralph> <snip>

>> I know that AOS used to print a book on the Victorious, which
>> would be ideal for her, is there any similarly detailed
>> information available on the WWW or in print on Illustrious?

Ralph> As mentioned by another poster, Profile Publications
Ralph> Nos. 10 and 11 might be of use. I have these at home, so
Ralph> if you need scans of photos or of the paint scheme for a
Ralph> particular period in her career I'd be glad to help.

Thanks Ralph, I haven't found a copy of Profile Publications 10 or 11
yet. I may have some luck at our next club meeting, although since
this is Japan I cannot be certain that anyone has English references!
I am looking to model Illustrious either in her Mediterranean fit (at
the time of her severe bomb damage), or else as in her late-war fit in
1945, which would include American weaponry.

I could not find any information on the internet that would be useful
to modelers, but a visit to Osaka next weekend means I can check out
the local hobby shops for references too... I wish the equivalent of
the "British Battleships of WW2" were available for carriers!

Any help would be most appreciated. This project is not driven by any
club display deadlines, so I am willing to wait months for references
to appear in the various auction sites.

Thanks again,
Sincerely,
Gernot

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Ralph Currell - 30 Aug 2005 14:15 GMT

>Thanks Ralph, I haven't found a copy of Profile Publications 10 or 11
>yet. I may have some luck at our next club meeting, although since
>this is Japan I cannot be certain that anyone has English references!
>I am looking to model Illustrious either in her Mediterranean fit (at
>the time of her severe bomb damage), or else as in her late-war fit in
>1945, which would include American weaponry.

Gernot,

I'm not familiar with the kit so can't say which time period it best
represents. I believe the flight deck was modified somewhat during
the war, which may limit your options. A glance at the Profile book
indicates an overall gray scheme in 1940-41, and Admiralty Standard
Scheme B for late '44/early '45. In between those dates there were
some rather interesting disruptive patterns.

I noticed some discussion of Illustrious in the Ship Modelling Mailing
List archives at http://smmlonline.com/archives/index.html . There
seem to be quite a lot of knowledgeable folks there who might be able
to help you.

>Any help would be most appreciated. This project is not driven by any
>club display deadlines, so I am willing to wait months for references
>to appear in the various auction sites.

Feel free to contact me at models@currell.net for any specific
information or scans from the Profiles. Put "Illustrious" somewhere
in the subject line so I can pick it out from all the spam.

Regards,
Ralph

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Gernot Hassenpflug - 01 Sep 2005 04:27 GMT

>>>>> "Ralph" == Ralph Currell <models@currell.net> writes:

Ralph> Gernot,

Ralph> I'm not familiar with the kit so can't say which time
Ralph> period it best represents. I believe the flight deck was
Ralph> modified somewhat during the war, which may limit your
Ralph> options. A glance at the Profile book indicates an overall
Ralph> gray scheme in 1940-41, and Admiralty Standard Scheme B for
Ralph> late '44/early '45. In between those dates there were some
Ralph> rather interesting disruptive patterns.

Ralph> I noticed some discussion of Illustrious in the Ship
Ralph> Modelling Mailing List archives at
Ralph> http://smmlonline.com/archives/index.html . There seem to
Ralph> be quite a lot of knowledgeable folks there who might be
Ralph> able to help you.

Thanks, that is indeed a very good tip.

Ralph> Feel free to contact me at /../ Put "Illustrious" somewhere
Ralph> in the subject line so I can pick it out from all the spam.

:-) I am busy with some audio editing in the next few days, but the

weekend looks like it has some remaining time left for modeling. Look
forward to chatting with you. All the best,
Gernot

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