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Zack - 26 Aug 2005 03:10 GMT
Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
simple dimmer switch from Menards but the tool will only come on when the
dimmer is at full power, as soon as I turn it down the motor quits.

How do I overcome this?

Zack
Richard Brooks - 26 Aug 2005 04:08 GMT
> Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
> simple dimmer switch from Menards but the tool will only come on when the
> dimmer is at full power, as soon as I turn it down the motor quits.
>
> How do I overcome this?

The lighting dimmer switches usually only have a full power output of
about 500w and your motor might be closer to 1kw or more power usage, I
don't know the specifications of your drill.

You might be better off salvaging the varispeed control from a variable
power drill as that will be a mightier beast.  Be safe though as I don't
want to have to send your family flowers!

Richard.
Serge D. Grun - 26 Aug 2005 08:27 GMT
> > Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> > attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
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> about 500w and your motor might be closer to 1kw or more power usage, I
> don't know the specifications of your drill.

Dremel = 125-150w for the 220-230v version, depending on the model...

A basic dimmer switch will not work, since the Dremel's electronics
regulate speed by varying power supply cycle duration, not voltage.
Since that's also how these switches work, the two interfere with each
other.

You should look in specialized electronics shops either for a speed
regulator for thyristor-driven electrical motors, or a very basic,
rheostat-based device that can vary the output voltage, not the cycle
duration.

Or get a Proxxon motor tool...

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Richard Brooks - 26 Aug 2005 12:20 GMT
>>>Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
>>>attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
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> Since that's also how these switches work, the two interfere with each
> other.

From what I read of the original poster's post, he has a fixed speed
drill with no duty-cycle electronics, a principle which lighting dimmers
 work on and your last paragraph is stating that the Dremel works on
duty-cycle also.

Depending on the motor type it could be possible to take out the
electronics and replace it with a thyristor circuit.

<http://www.play-hookey.com/semiconductors/diac_triac.html>

> You should look in specialized electronics shops either for a speed
> regulator for thyristor-driven electrical motors, or a very basic,
> rheostat-based device that can vary the output voltage, not the cycle
> duration.
>
> Or get a Proxxon motor tool...

Richard.
Gray Ghost - 27 Aug 2005 00:48 GMT
>> > Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool
>> > so the attachments don't melt the plastic but actually
cut or sand
>> > it?  I tried a simple dimmer switch from Menards but the
tool will
>> > only come on when the dimmer is at full power, as soon
as I turn it
>> > down the motor quits.
>> >
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>
> Or get a Proxxon motor tool...

Dremel makes a speed regulator. Why reinvent the wheel? And
risk damaging your tool?
Chuck Ryan - 26 Aug 2005 07:37 GMT
> Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
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>
> Zack

Some folks have adapted the pedal control from sewing machines for speed
control. I bought A speed control at my lhs a couple years ago, I still end
up using sanding sticks, paper,whatever, more than my dremel for sanding.
Grinding attachments work ok, just have to use very light touch and buy a
flex shaft for better control.

--
Chuck Ryan
Springfield OH
Arcusinoz - 26 Aug 2005 10:18 GMT
Sorry  cant help you with that prob, my Dremel has a speed control
button.
Boris Beizer - 26 Aug 2005 15:08 GMT
> Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
> simple dimmer switch from Menards but the tool will only come on when the
> dimmer is at full power, as soon as I turn it down the motor quits.

The simplest, easiest, and cheapest is to buy a sewing machine foot pedal
rheostat.  New about $15 -$20 .. used about $2.00.   The motor is a DC (or
actually a "universal" motor.   Works just fine on my variable speed Dremel.
Gives a great deal of speed control and even more important, the ability to
control speed with your foot .. giving you one hand for the work and one for
the tool.  Far more convenient.

Boris

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Stephen Tontoni - 27 Aug 2005 06:21 GMT
> > Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> > attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
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>
> Boris

Second that; I've use a foot pedal that was intended for sewing machine
usage for years now. Excellent results, and no damage to the tool.
Invest in one!!

---Stephen Tontoni
Seattle, WA
The Model Hobbit - 26 Aug 2005 21:14 GMT
This is what you need......
The Dremel  #221 Foot Speed Control

http://dremel.com/HTML/home_fr.html

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> Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
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>
> Zack
Zack - 28 Aug 2005 03:52 GMT
OK,

Sounds like the foot pedal might be the easiest, best way to go.  I should
clarify the situation though, I have a Craftsman brand two speed "Dremmel"
style motor tool.  I do have a flex shaft for it, but I find it hard to work
with.  I tend to clamp the tool to my workbench and use two hands to hold my
parts.  The dimmer switch I used on my first try was rated for 600 watts.  I
could not find anything on the tool that indicated amps, watts, or anything
else.  I buy Dremmel parts and attachments for the tool, but I did not know
there was a foot pedal available.

Thanks

Zack

> Can someone tell me how to reduce the speed of my Dremel motor tool so the
> attachments don't melt the plastic but actually cut or sand it?  I tried a
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>
> Zack
 
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