RAAF, RAN, Aussie stuff: What are people working on.
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aquaboy11 - 02 Sep 2005 20:42 GMT Hi All, I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past and present, be it RAAF, RAN, or Army. This includes planes flown by aussie squadrons of the RAF etc.
So, just a general interest question. Anyone else out there have an aussie focus and what are you working, What would you love to get your hands on.
at the moment I have a 1/72 scale Wirraway just about ready for paint, and a MB 326 macchi trainer in the same state that im doing in the Fanta can scheme. I am slowly, and i mean slowly, working on a F-111 1/48 that i plan on doing in the old camo scheme.
Things I would love to get hold of or wish were made are Raaf 1/72 decals for the Walrus RAAF 1/72 mirage decals for the camo two seater. Has anyone ever seen a decal sheet for this? Conversion kit and decals to do a 1/72 Washington(B29) and the same for doing a 1/72 Lincoln conversion.
I Hope others will share there Focus on Australian Defence Aircraft
all the best
Daniel
Bill Woodier - 03 Sep 2005 01:06 GMT Mine have been in 1/48 scale. I've done an Australian #77 Squadron Mustang from the Korean War. I'm also working on a Meteor Mk-VIII. Some time ago I was in the process of converting a Monogram Texan into a Wirraway. I replaced the engine and had super glued thin copper wires onto the fuselage where the stringers were on the Wirraway. and was contouring the shape with green stuff. Unfortunately, I had trouble keeping the little wires attached to the fuselage and I put it aside. I need to re-energize those efforts again one of these days.
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> Hi All, > I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Daniel Leigh Edmonds - 03 Sep 2005 01:49 GMT Although I'm Australian I have no particular interest in ADF aircraft. However, just at the moment I'm working on a project to turn all the Frog Mirage IIIE/Os kits I've collected over the years into a set of severn RAAF Mirages and one Pakistani one. High Planes do very good kits of the Mirage IIIO and the IIID, both with very good decal sheets. They seem to have also started on doing 1/72 decal sheets for RAAF Mirages. Their sheet for 2OCU is very good and I'm looking forward to using them.
Leigh Edmonds
> Hi All, > I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Daniel Arcusinoz - 04 Sep 2005 14:36 GMT I am an Australian, I like the great Aussie adaptations of armour everything from hedgehog mine firerers attached to tanks to turrets attached to M113 armoured personal carriers(20 years ago) recently realised by the USA as a new model
Arcusinoz - 04 Sep 2005 14:43 GMT I am currently trying to track down the the exact measurements of the Tanks that were built in Australia during WW2.....before the americans came to save us.........lol lol
Ultan Rooney - 05 Sep 2005 07:14 GMT > Hi All, > I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Daniel I once had a great vision of doing all the ADF aircraft in 1/72 scale but realised that I would never achieve this so I settled for doing ADF versions of the kits I have. I have been told of a local modeller that has all ADF aircraft in 1/72 but I have not been able to see the collection (he is not very well).
I have just finished a Heller Allouette III in RAN usage (pretty easier as the decals are just the rats and the serial number). I probably missed some details by it is close enough for me.
I've done a Bushranger, a Spitfire Mk V (bronze at the recent QMHE), Eastern Express (ex. Frog) Mirage III in ARDU colours, Meteor Mk III (a bit of stretch as this was a test aircraft supplied to the RAAF. AFAIK, this was the only Mk III used by the RAAF, all the others were Mk VIIIs).
I am currently working on a Frog Wessex Mk 30 and an Airfix Boomerang.
I have quite a few other ADF kits to do including a Seahawk, Sea King, Blackhawk, Kiowa (see a pattern here), Mitchell, Boston, Vengeance etc.
As another response has mentioned, High Planes models do a lot of Mirages with ADF decals and may supply Mirage decals separately (http://www.hiplanes.dragnet.com.au/intropage.htm).
IIRC, the Australian modelling mag, ModelArt Australia had a comprehensive article about a Lincoln conversion. There is information here (http://apma.org.au/modelart.html) where you might be able to get a copy of the back issue.
If you haven't already you should check out www.aussiemodeller.com this and the associated discussion forum.
Cheers Ultan Rooney
aquaboy11 - 06 Sep 2005 22:03 GMT Great feedback. i have a lot of kits with aussie decals just waiting for me to get around to them. isnt it always the way.
all the best
daniel
Mad-Modeller - 07 Sep 2005 04:08 GMT I have a few planes in Aussie markings. The old Revell F-111C, Frog Mirage IIIO, Frog Vultee Vengeance, Airfix Boomerang, Hasegawa A-4 RAN and years ago I kitbashed a Boomerang with a Harvard and got a Wirraway of sorts. Even longer ago I had a Frog Havoc with RAAF markings but they peeled off.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
jvenables@austarmetro.com.au - 17 Sep 2005 11:44 GMT Hi all,
I'm also an Aussie and developed grandiose visions of having a complete 1:72 collection of all ADF aircraft at an early age. Trouble is, some of the aircraft just ain't available in 1:72 scale, or the attempts at these subjects have been poor and not worth the effort. Types that spring to mind are:
· Douglas Dolphin (apparently a Czechmaster kit is due soon) · Wackett Gannet · Avro Cadet (was there an Aeroclub kit of this?) · DHA Glider · CAC Woomera (Beechnut attempted this one, which I believe was very poor) · Northrop Delta · Lockheed Lodestar · Aerospatiale Squirrel (a resin kit appeared briefly a few years back) · Supermarine Sea Otter (Aeroclub did it with limited success and there's an Azur kit due soon)
Over the years, I've managed to amass a fairly good collection of most types used by the ADF in 1:72 scale (or similar types for conversion) and ADF decal sheets, but therein lies the next problem - my work has kept me away from home for most of my life, so I may never find the time to actually assemble them into models!
In answer to Daniel's posting, I have not seen a decal sheet specifically for the Mirage IIID, but the Roodecals sheet (number MA24) or the High Planes sheet (number D7201), both of which feature the Mirage IIIO could easily be adapted with some help from a sheet providing generic serial numbers (eg. Aussie Decals sheet number 701 or 702). I also recall seeing a decal sheet from an overseas manufacturer (Carpena?) which included at least on RAAF Mirage, but I don't know offhand if it's a single or dual seater.
As Ultan Rooney replied, the High Planes kit of the Mirage IIID contains markings for several aircraft. I don't have a High Planes Mirage in my collection, but I'd imagine they're a decent kit, given the short-run limitations.
The Boeing Washington should be a pretty straightforward build from any B-29 kit. As far as I know, there is no difference between the two, aside from the name, which was simply the RAF designation for the aircraft. The RAAF Washingtons were natural metal overall with "A" type roundels, fin flashes and serials - the decal spares box should yield all that is required here.
There is/was a Lincoln conversion kit available from one of the English cottage industry companies (Magna Models?) but I believe it's pretty crude. As a start however, Red Roo Models market some resin Lincoln engine cowlings; I have a set of these and aside from the moulded-in exhausts (I would have preferred separate items), they seem OK. I also vaguely recall seeing a mention of a Lincoln conversion set from one of the Australian cottage industry producers in a magazine a couple of years ago, but as far as I know, it hasn't happened yet. Maybe there'll be one around shortly to be mated to the new Hasegawa kit?
With the recent termination of Aussie Decals, we have lost one very good source of after-market RAAF markings (we can only hope someone buys the screens from Peter to keep the excellent work going). Red Roo Models and Hawkeye Models (following this company's recent revival) continue to produce excellent resources for the ADF modeller. Hawkeye also produce an excellent range of Aussie civil markings. I don't know if Roodecals are still producing, but some of their decal sheets are fairly easily found.
Hope this information is useful to someone!!
James.
Arcusinoz - 17 Sep 2005 13:15 GMT some chat about Aussie tanks and APC etc would also be great
Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales - 17 Sep 2005 13:21 GMT > some chat about Aussie tanks and APC etc would also be great why? i cant think of one that was any good.
jvenables@austarmetro.com.au - 17 Sep 2005 16:21 GMT Julian,
Have a look at the Anzac Steel website - it's full of useful info. Can't recall the address but a Google search will reveal all.
James.
Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales - 17 Sep 2005 18:33 GMT > Julian, > > Have a look at the Anzac Steel website - it's full of useful info. > Can't recall the address but a Google search will reveal all. > > James. I thought he meant actual made OZ stuff, i cant think of one, ok that transporter plane with a funny name and thats it, cant think of owt else unless made under license
Gary R. Schmidt - 18 Sep 2005 06:00 GMT Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales wrote:
>>Julian, >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > transporter plane with a funny name and thats it, cant think of owt else > unless made under license GAF Nomad (possibly this is the one you think has a "funny" name?) CAC Boomerang CAC Wackett CA-25 Winjeel Victa Airtourer (aka NZAI CT-4 Airtrainer)
Cheers, Gary B-)
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Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales - 18 Sep 2005 08:13 GMT > Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Cheers, > Gary B-) It was boomerang! Still cant think of any armour tho.
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> Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know > whether you were up them with or not > - Barry Humphries Gary R. Schmidt - 18 Sep 2005 15:27 GMT Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales wrote: [SNIP]
>>>I thought he meant actual made OZ stuff, i cant think of one, ok that >>>transporter plane with a funny name and thats it, cant think of owt else [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It was boomerang! Still cant think of any armour tho. The Boomerang _fighter_ was designed and built in a tearing hurry at the start of the Pacific war. Not too shabby given that we still thought we could do nought without the mother country back then.
Cheers, Gary B-)
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Ralph Currell - 18 Sep 2005 22:46 GMT >It was boomerang! Still cant think of any armour tho. Australia designed and built a light tank called the Sentinel. It never saw action but was a useful training vehicle.
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/australia/ac1.html
I believe they produced a variety of lighter vehicles (armoured cars, carriers) as well.
Regards, Ralph
aquaboy11 - 06 Oct 2005 21:18 GMT Hey James, there is no doubt the closing of Aussie decals is going to be big loss to aussie modellers. As you mention i hope someone is able to get the screens and keep the sheets available. I have dreams of mastering the 1/72 aussie collection. I am sure i will never achieve it for various reasons but its a hell of an aim and great fun building on. this week i picked up the highplanes Winjeel.
On the Washington/B29 front i believe that the two the aussies had were turrentless where most B29 kits have gun turrents. For more skilled modellers this change is probably something they could adjust themselves. for me a conversion kit would be needed. I have seen one in 1/48 but i dont have room for such a monster and would love one in 1/72
I was great to read you ADF modelling path James
all the best
Daniel
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