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RAAF, RAN, Aussie stuff: What are people  working on.

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aquaboy11 - 02 Sep 2005 20:42 GMT
Hi All,
I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past
and present, be it RAAF, RAN, or Army. This includes planes flown by
aussie squadrons of the RAF etc.

So, just a general interest question. Anyone else out there have an
aussie focus and what are you working, What would you love to get your
hands on.

at the moment  I have a 1/72 scale Wirraway just about ready for paint,
and a MB 326 macchi trainer in the same state that im doing in the
Fanta can scheme. I  am slowly, and i  mean slowly, working on a F-111
1/48 that i plan on doing in the old camo scheme.

Things I would love to get hold of or wish were made are
Raaf 1/72 decals for the Walrus
RAAF 1/72 mirage decals for the camo two seater. Has anyone ever seen a
decal sheet  for this?
Conversion kit and decals to do a 1/72 Washington(B29)
and the same for doing a 1/72 Lincoln conversion.

I Hope others will share there Focus on Australian Defence Aircraft

all the best

Daniel
Bill Woodier - 03 Sep 2005 01:06 GMT
Mine have been in 1/48 scale.  I've done an Australian #77 Squadron Mustang
from the Korean War.  I'm also working on a Meteor Mk-VIII.  Some time ago I
was in the process of converting a Monogram
Texan into a Wirraway.  I replaced the engine and had super glued thin
copper wires onto the fuselage where the stringers were on the Wirraway.
and was contouring the shape with green stuff.  Unfortunately, I had trouble
keeping the little wires attached to the fuselage and I put it aside.  I
need to re-energize those efforts again one of these days.
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> Hi All,
> I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past
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>
> Daniel
Leigh Edmonds - 03 Sep 2005 01:49 GMT
Although I'm Australian I have no particular interest in ADF aircraft.
However, just at the moment I'm working on a project to turn all the Frog
Mirage IIIE/Os kits I've collected over the years into a set of severn RAAF
Mirages and one Pakistani one.  High Planes do very good kits of the Mirage
IIIO and the IIID, both with very good decal sheets.  They seem to have also
started on doing 1/72 decal sheets for RAAF Mirages.  Their sheet for 2OCU
is very good and I'm looking forward to using them.

Leigh Edmonds
> Hi All,
> I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past
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>
> Daniel
Arcusinoz - 04 Sep 2005 14:36 GMT
I am an Australian, I like the great Aussie adaptations of armour
everything from hedgehog mine firerers attached to tanks  to turrets
attached to  M113 armoured  personal carriers(20 years ago) recently
realised by the USA as a new model
Arcusinoz - 04 Sep 2005 14:43 GMT
I am currently trying to track down the the  exact measurements of the
Tanks that were built in Australia during WW2.....before the americans
came to save us.........lol lol
Ultan Rooney - 05 Sep 2005 07:14 GMT
> Hi All,
> I focus on model aircraft flown by the Australian Defence Forces, Past
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Daniel

I once had a great vision of doing all the ADF aircraft in 1/72 scale but
realised that I would never achieve this so I settled for doing ADF versions
of the kits I have. I have been told of a local modeller that has all ADF
aircraft in 1/72 but I have not been able to see the collection (he is not
very well).

I have just finished a Heller Allouette III in RAN usage (pretty easier as
the decals are just the rats and the serial number).  I probably missed some
details by it is close enough for me.

I've done a Bushranger, a Spitfire Mk V (bronze at the recent QMHE), Eastern
Express (ex. Frog) Mirage III in ARDU colours, Meteor Mk III (a bit of
stretch as this was a test aircraft supplied to the RAAF. AFAIK, this was
the only Mk III used by the RAAF, all the others were Mk VIIIs).

I am currently working on a Frog Wessex Mk 30 and an Airfix Boomerang.

I have quite a few other ADF kits to do including a Seahawk, Sea King,
Blackhawk, Kiowa (see a pattern here), Mitchell, Boston, Vengeance etc.

As another response has mentioned, High Planes models do a lot of Mirages
with ADF decals and may supply Mirage decals separately
(http://www.hiplanes.dragnet.com.au/intropage.htm).

IIRC, the Australian modelling mag, ModelArt Australia had a comprehensive
article about a Lincoln conversion. There is information here
(http://apma.org.au/modelart.html) where you might be able to get a copy of
the back issue.

If you haven't already you should check out www.aussiemodeller.com this and
the associated discussion forum.

Cheers
Ultan Rooney
aquaboy11 - 06 Sep 2005 22:03 GMT
Great feedback. i have a lot of kits with aussie decals just waiting
for me to get around to them. isnt it always the way.

all the best

daniel
Mad-Modeller - 07 Sep 2005 04:08 GMT
I have a few planes in Aussie markings.  The old Revell F-111C, Frog
Mirage IIIO, Frog Vultee Vengeance, Airfix Boomerang, Hasegawa A-4 RAN
and years ago I kitbashed a Boomerang with a Harvard and got a Wirraway
of sorts.  Even longer ago I had a Frog Havoc with RAAF markings but
they peeled off.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
jvenables@austarmetro.com.au - 17 Sep 2005 11:44 GMT
Hi all,

I'm also an Aussie and developed grandiose visions of having a
complete 1:72 collection of all ADF aircraft at an early age. Trouble
is, some of the aircraft just ain't available in 1:72 scale, or the
attempts at these subjects have been poor and not worth the effort.
Types that spring to mind are:

·    Douglas Dolphin (apparently a Czechmaster kit is due soon)
·    Wackett Gannet
·    Avro Cadet (was there an Aeroclub kit of this?)
·    DHA Glider
·    CAC Woomera (Beechnut attempted this one, which I believe was very
poor)
·    Northrop Delta
·    Lockheed Lodestar
·    Aerospatiale Squirrel (a resin kit appeared briefly a few years
back)
·    Supermarine Sea Otter (Aeroclub did it with limited success and
there's an Azur kit due soon)

Over the years, I've managed to amass a fairly good collection of
most types used by the ADF in 1:72 scale (or similar types for
conversion) and ADF decal sheets, but therein lies the next problem -
my work has kept me away from home for most of my life, so I may never
find the time to actually assemble them into models!

In answer to Daniel's posting, I have not seen a decal sheet
specifically for the Mirage IIID, but the Roodecals sheet (number MA24)
or the High Planes sheet (number D7201), both of which feature the
Mirage IIIO could easily be adapted with some help from a sheet
providing generic serial numbers (eg. Aussie Decals sheet number 701 or
702). I also recall seeing a decal sheet from an overseas manufacturer
(Carpena?) which included at least on RAAF Mirage, but I don't know
offhand if it's a single or dual seater.

As Ultan Rooney replied, the High Planes kit of the Mirage IIID
contains markings for several aircraft. I don't have a High Planes
Mirage in my collection, but I'd imagine they're a decent kit,
given the short-run limitations.

The Boeing Washington should be a pretty straightforward build from any
B-29 kit. As far as I know, there is no difference between the two,
aside from the name, which was simply the RAF designation for the
aircraft. The RAAF Washingtons were natural metal overall with "A"
type roundels, fin flashes and serials - the decal spares box should
yield all that is required here.

There is/was a Lincoln conversion kit available from one of the English
cottage industry companies (Magna Models?) but I believe it's pretty
crude. As a start however, Red Roo Models market some resin Lincoln
engine cowlings; I have a set of these and aside from the moulded-in
exhausts (I would have preferred separate items), they seem OK. I also
vaguely recall seeing a mention of a Lincoln conversion set from one of
the Australian cottage industry producers in a magazine a couple of
years ago, but as far as I know, it hasn't happened yet. Maybe
there'll be one around shortly to be mated to the new Hasegawa kit?

With the recent termination of Aussie Decals, we have lost one very
good source of after-market RAAF markings (we can only hope someone
buys the screens from Peter to keep the excellent work going). Red Roo
Models and Hawkeye Models (following this company's recent revival)
continue to produce excellent resources for the ADF modeller. Hawkeye
also produce an excellent range of Aussie civil markings. I don't
know if Roodecals are still producing, but some of their decal sheets
are fairly easily found.

Hope this information is useful to someone!!

James.
Arcusinoz - 17 Sep 2005 13:15 GMT
some chat about Aussie  tanks and APC etc would also be great
Julian 'Penny for the guy'  Hales - 17 Sep 2005 13:21 GMT
> some chat about Aussie  tanks and APC etc would also be great

why? i cant think of one that was any good.
jvenables@austarmetro.com.au - 17 Sep 2005 16:21 GMT
Julian,

Have a look at the Anzac Steel website - it's full of useful info.
Can't recall the address but a Google search will reveal all.

James.
Julian 'Penny for the guy'  Hales - 17 Sep 2005 18:33 GMT
> Julian,
>
> Have a look at the Anzac Steel website - it's full of useful info.
> Can't recall the address but a Google search will reveal all.
>
> James.

I thought he meant actual made OZ stuff, i cant think of one, ok that
transporter plane with a funny name and thats it, cant think of owt else
unless made under license
Gary R. Schmidt - 18 Sep 2005 06:00 GMT
Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales wrote:

>>Julian,
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> transporter plane with a funny name and thats it, cant think of owt else
> unless made under license
GAF Nomad (possibly this is the one you think has a "funny" name?)
CAC Boomerang
CAC Wackett
CA-25 Winjeel
Victa Airtourer (aka NZAI CT-4 Airtrainer)

    Cheers,
        Gary    B-)

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Julian 'Penny for the guy'  Hales - 18 Sep 2005 08:13 GMT
> Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales wrote:
>
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> Cheers,
> Gary B-)

It was boomerang!  Still cant think of any armour tho.

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Gary R. Schmidt - 18 Sep 2005 15:27 GMT
Julian 'Penny for the guy' Hales wrote:
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>>>I thought he meant actual made OZ stuff, i cant think of one, ok that
>>>transporter plane with a funny name and thats it, cant think of owt else
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>
> It was boomerang!  Still cant think of any armour tho.

The Boomerang _fighter_ was designed and built in a tearing hurry at the
start of the Pacific war.  Not too shabby given that we still thought we
could do nought without the mother country back then.

    Cheers,
        Gary    B-)

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Ralph Currell - 18 Sep 2005 22:46 GMT
>It was boomerang!  Still cant think of any armour tho.

Australia designed and built a light tank called the Sentinel.  It
never saw action but was a useful training vehicle.

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/australia/ac1.html

I believe they produced a variety of lighter vehicles (armoured cars,
carriers) as well.

Regards,
  Ralph
aquaboy11 - 06 Oct 2005 21:18 GMT
Hey James,
there is no doubt the closing of Aussie decals is going to be big loss
to aussie modellers. As you mention i hope someone is able to get the
screens and keep the sheets available.
I have dreams of mastering the 1/72 aussie collection. I am sure i will
never achieve it for various reasons but its a hell of an aim and great
fun building on.
this week i picked up the highplanes Winjeel.

On the Washington/B29 front i believe that the two the aussies had were
turrentless where most B29 kits have gun turrents. For more skilled
modellers this change is probably something they could adjust
themselves. for me a conversion kit would be needed. I have seen one in
1/48 but i dont have room for such a monster and would love one in 1/72

I was great to read you ADF modelling path James

all the best

Daniel
 
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