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Francis X. Kranick, Jr. - 27 Sep 2005 04:36 GMT Sad news of Don Adams' death...
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I never was much for "Get Smart" but I did like his comic voiceovers...
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Mad-Modeller - 27 Sep 2005 07:00 GMT First I heard was on CBS Evening News. I guess the Cone of Silence is working now.
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Hub & Diane Plott III - 27 Sep 2005 12:54 GMT And Butch from the Little Rascals died the day before.
> Sad news of Don Adams' death... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Frank Kranick Moi - 27 Sep 2005 13:23 GMT Then that makes 3. Sad to see all the stars from my afternoon after school TV shows passing away... just making some of you feel a whole lot older ain't I. Yup.... that was the EARLY 80's it was... we wore an onion on our belt, which was the fasion of the time....
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> And Butch from the Little Rascals died the day before. >> Sad news of Don Adams' death... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Frank Kranick e - 27 Sep 2005 16:44 GMT >Then that makes 3. Sad to see all the stars from my afternoon after school >TV shows passing away... just making some of you feel a whole lot older >ain't I. Yup.... that was the EARLY 80's it was... we wore an onion on our >belt, which was the fasion of the time.... and we called sauerkraut liberty cabbage because the kaiser had taken our r's.
William H. Shuey - 27 Sep 2005 18:15 GMT And when the Marine at the pearly gates arrives, To Saint Peter he will tell, Another Marine reporting sir! I've served my time in Hell!
Adams quit high school to join the Marines and served on Guadalcanal. Hollywood's people aren't all schmucks like the Baldwins and Streisands.
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> Sad news of Don Adams' death... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Frank Kranick Enzo Matrix - 27 Sep 2005 19:53 GMT > And when the Marine at the pearly gates arrives, > To Saint Peter he will tell, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hollywood's people aren't all schmucks like the Baldwins and > Streisands. Obviously Audie Murphy springs immediately to mind. Jimmy Stewart was already a Hollywood star when he joined the USAAF and flew 20 combat missions over Germany in B-24s. Then there was Jimmy "Scotty" Doohan, who was injured by machine-gun fire on Juno Beach and later became an AOP pilot and was called "The craziest pilot in the Canadian Air Force".
Any more?
From the other side of the pond, Bob Todd (Benny Hill's sidekick) was a Lancaster tail gunner. Raymond "Tomorrow's World" Baxter was a Spitfire pilot who was heavily involved in Operation Big Ben, the dive-bombing of V2 launch sites.
Peter Butterworth is another hero. He appeared in many Carry On films, usually playing a bumbling policeman. He had joined the Royal Navy before the war and was captured when his transport plane was shot down. He was sent to Stalag Luft III where the real Great Escape and the story of The Wooden Horse happened. Butterworth actually took part in the Wooden Horse escape attempt. In 1950, he auditioned for a part in the film but was rejected because he didn't look heroic enough!
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Francis X. Kranick, Jr. - 28 Sep 2005 01:08 GMT >>And when the Marine at the pearly gates arrives, >>To Saint Peter he will tell, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Any more? Eddie Albert was in the USN but I cannot recall if he was a corpsman or handled landing craft. I think it was the former...
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rwsmithjr@rcn.com - 28 Sep 2005 05:52 GMT > Eddie Albert was in the USN but I cannot recall if he was a corpsman > or handled landing craft. I think it was the former... LTjg Eddie Albert was a landing craft skipper during Tarawa and was the first person to recognize the need to evacuate wounded and promptly organized the effort and made several runs to do just that. I've even seen a couple of chance photos of him at NARA during that event, there is also a color film where you can just catch a few frames of him.
In case you didn't know, Robert Clery (LaBeau from Hogan's Heroes) was a jewish slave laborer in one of the rocket factories.
Greg Heilers - 28 Sep 2005 14:27 GMT > In case you didn't know, Robert Clery (LaBeau from Hogan's Heroes) was a > jewish slave laborer in one of the rocket factories. That brings to mind a hilarious tidbit that I was sent a long tine ago:
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HOGAN'S HEROES DRINKING GAME -- Take a shot every time:
-- Sergeant Schultz says, "I knoooooowww nooooothing!" -- General Burkhalter or Major Hochstetter intimidate/insult Colonel Klink. -- Colonel Klink falls for Colonel Hogan's flattery. -- One of the prisoners sneaks out of camp (one shot for each prisoner to go). -- Colonel Klink snaps to attention after answering the phone (two shots if it's one of our heroes on the other end). -- One of the Germans is threatened with being sent to the Russian front. -- Corporal Newkirk calls up a German in his phoney German accent, and tricks him (two shots if it's Colonel Klink). -- Hogan has a romantic interlude with a beautiful girl from the underground. -- Colonel Klink relates how he's never had an escape from Stalag 13. -- Sergeant Schultz gives up a secret (two shots if he's bribed with food). -- The prisoners listen to the Germans' conversation by a hidden transmitter. -- Sergeant Schultz "captures" one of the prisoners after an escape. -- Lebeau pronounces "colonel" as "cuh-loh-`nell". -- Carter builds some kind of device (two shots if it's not explosive). -- Lebeau wears his apron. -- Hogan says "We've got no choice" when the someone claims that the plan is impossible. -- The prisoners capture an important German, and sneak him out the tunnel.
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WmB - 28 Sep 2005 16:18 GMT > -- Hogan has a romantic interlude with a beautiful girl from the > underground. I think you get two shots if she turns out to be Gestapo.
WmB
frank - 28 Sep 2005 18:30 GMT Jimmy Stewart flew B-17s, IIRC, in WWII. James Arness was wounded during D-Day. That's why he always had a bit of a limp in "Gunsmoke", he was shot in a knee. Ed McMahon retired from the USMC.
AM - 28 Sep 2005 22:11 GMT > Jimmy Stewart flew B-17s, And wound up flying the B 58 too :)
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rwsmithjr@rcn.com - 29 Sep 2005 07:01 GMT > Jimmy Stewart flew B-17s, IIRC, in WWII. James Arness was wounded > during D-Day. That's why he always had a bit of a limp in "Gunsmoke", > he was shot in a knee. Ed McMahon retired from the USMC. Nope, Stewart flew B-24's.
WmB - 29 Sep 2005 17:44 GMT >> Jimmy Stewart flew B-17s, IIRC, in WWII. James Arness was wounded >> during D-Day. That's why he always had a bit of a limp in "Gunsmoke", >> he was shot in a knee. Ed McMahon retired from the USMC. > > Nope, Stewart flew B-24's. I think Arness was wounded at Anzio. He refused to have the bullet removed and as a result horseback riding was painful - so they minimized his saddle time on Gunsmoke.
So the story goes...
WmB
Francis X. Kranick, Jr. - 29 Sep 2005 01:08 GMT > HOGAN'S HEROES DRINKING GAME -- > Take a shot every time: (snip)
Good Lord, you'd be pasted every episode!
Frank Kranick
Mad-Modeller - 29 Sep 2005 04:21 GMT > > HOGAN'S HEROES DRINKING GAME -- > > Take a shot every time: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Frank Kranick Wasn't that the point? ;)
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maiesm72@netscape.com - 29 Sep 2005 04:39 GMT Somebody mentioned Clark Gable and assumed that he didn't see combat.
At the age of 41 Gable went against studio wishes and dumped his $32,000 per month acting job in favor of enlisting in the AAF. He attended OTC and went to England as part of a film crew doing a series of films on aerial gunnery. He asked for and received permission to fly five B-17 combat missions over Germany with the 351st BG. He left the service in 1944 as a Major.
I worked on a (forgetable) movie with James Stewart right out of high school as a gofer. Not too many years later I met him again working at Hamilton AFB in the PIO office when he was our summer CO. One of the nicest people I ever met.
Tom
Gary R. Schmidt - 29 Sep 2005 14:54 GMT >> HOGAN'S HEROES DRINKING GAME -- >> Take a shot every time: > > (snip) > > Good Lord, you'd be pasted every episode! You type that like it's a bad thing! :-)
Cheers, (Hic!) Gary B-)
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Greg Heilers - 27 Sep 2005 20:48 GMT > And when the Marine at the pearly gates arrives, > To Saint Peter he will tell, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bill Shuey If you *really* want to be awe-inspired, look up the military record of Lee Marvin.
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>> Sad news of Don Adams' death... >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Frank Kranick
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Bill Woodier - 28 Sep 2005 01:36 GMT Lee Marvin was a Marine and was wounded in action. However, he has claimed to have won the Navy Cross on Iwo Jima (or, perhaps it was Saipan, can't remember which). However it has been revealed that there are no records of the award of the Navy Cross by Marvin.
Capt Kangaroo, Bob Keeshan, was also a Marine in WW-II. However, contrary to claims made by Lee Marvin, Keeshan did not win the Navy Cross and, I don't believe he ever left the States (Keeshan never claimed to have won the Navy Cross, it was Lee Marvin's fabrication to bolster his own claim).
Clark Gable served in the Army Air Force in WW-II but, as far as I know, the closest he ever got to combat was having his picture taken posing in front of a B-17 Stateside.
Julie Childs (OK, OK, she was the MC of a cooking show, not a movie personality) served in the OSS in WW-II.
While I personally can't stand Dale Dye, he did retire from the Marine Corps as a Mustang Captain and served at least a couple combat tours in Vietnam.
All that said, while there are some regular human beings in the movie business out in Hollywierd, most of them are nothing more than walking, talking rectums who, while they talk benevolence, charity, brotherly love, and all that, are by and large a nasty, self-centered, me-first lot who wouldn't pee in your mouth if you were dying of thirst.
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>> And when the Marine at the pearly gates arrives, >> To Saint Peter he will tell, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>> >>> Frank Kranick Greg Heilers - 28 Sep 2005 04:39 GMT > Lee Marvin was a Marine and was wounded in action. However, he has > claimed to have won the Navy Cross on Iwo Jima (or, perhaps it was Saipan, > can't > remember which). However it has been revealed that there are no records > of the award of the Navy Cross by Marvin. I never read anything about a Navy Cross, but he *was* wounded on Iwo Jima, and very severely. He reportedly took part in about 20 beach assaults/landings. On Iwo, it is written that he was one of only five survivors from his company; and spent over a year recovering from his wounds he received there.
> All that said, while there are some regular human beings in the movie > business out in Hollywierd, most of them are nothing more than walking, > talking rectums who, while they talk benevolence, charity, brotherly love, > and all that, are by and large a nasty, self-centered, me-first lot who > wouldn't pee in your mouth if you were dying of thirst. Read the "war record" of LBJ, as a young Congressman during the conflict...
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William H. Shuey - 28 Sep 2005 05:43 GMT > Read the "war record" of LBJ, as a young Congressman during the conflict... I take it this is a reference to the Silver Star awarded him by McArthur for a combat mission that was never actually completed but was blown entirely out of proportion by his PO men. The ST was generally regarded as a "Political a.s Kiss" by McArthur's staff.
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Bill Woodier - 28 Sep 2005 15:18 GMT Yes; I'm aware of LBJ's record. His Silver Star was the result of the bomber he was riding in for a tour over Australia making an emergency landing due to a mechanical problem in the "outback" somewhere. He and and the crew had to spend the night out there. When he got back, he used his influence as a congressman to pressure the award of a Silver Star. I might be missing a couple of the details but you get the picture; just another example of stolen valor and all perfectly in character for the type of man LBJ was.
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>> Lee Marvin was a Marine and was wounded in action. However, he has >> claimed to have won the Navy Cross on Iwo Jima (or, perhaps it was [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Read the "war record" of LBJ, as a young Congressman during the > conflict... e - 28 Sep 2005 05:07 GMT >Lee Marvin was a Marine and was wounded in action. However, he has claimed >to have won the Navy Cross on Iwo Jima (or, perhaps it was Saipan, can't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Julie Childs (OK, OK, she was the MC of a cooking show, not a movie >personality) served in the OSS in WW-II. she has great stories about stillwell and chennault. called chiang a real a.shole. i like her a lot.
>While I personally can't stand Dale Dye, he did retire from the Marine Corps >as a Mustang Captain and served at least a couple combat tours in Vietnam. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >and all that, are by and large a nasty, self-centered, me-first lot who >wouldn't pee in your mouth if you were dying of thirst. rwsmithjr@rcn.com - 28 Sep 2005 05:54 GMT > Julie Childs (OK, OK, she was the MC of a cooking show, not a movie > personality) served in the OSS in WW-II. You forgot Dr. Ruth, one of the most successful Israeli snipers right after it was formed....and you only thought she cared if your lover put your penis in her mouth....
frank - 28 Sep 2005 18:31 GMT I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain?
Enzo Matrix - 28 Sep 2005 19:02 GMT > I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain? It's a P-51. And STAND TO ATTENTION WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO ME!!!
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e - 29 Sep 2005 05:19 GMT >> I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain? > >It's a P-51. And STAND TO ATTENTION WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO ME!!! > >:o) where are you papers, olt man? vhy can you not zign zee paers, olt man?
frank - 29 Sep 2005 11:58 GMT So, when did the USMC use P-51s? That's why I thought it was a USMC term.
Teresa Voyles - 28 Sep 2005 22:38 GMT Hi Frank, a "mustang" officer in the US military is a guy who came up thru the ranks.Ie:Audie Murphy is one such who started out as a Pvt. and ended up WW2 as highly decorated 1st Lt.(or Capt.?).In today's US military,there are are different paths an enlisted man can go in in his respective service to gain a commission.At any rate,any officer who came up thru the ranks is a "mustang". I did a career in the Navy and knew a few guys who applied for LDO (limited duty officer) and got it.Those guys are considered mustangs.How the word mustang got applied to those guys ,someone else may have the story on that.Hope this is clearer than mud! Kelly Voyles
> I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain? William H. Shuey - 28 Sep 2005 22:39 GMT I believe this means he came up through the ranks instead of one of the service academies or a college ROTC program.
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> I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain? Bill Woodier - 28 Sep 2005 23:32 GMT Actually, an officer could have gone to a service academy or ROTC and still be a mustang officer. The criteria for the Mustang title (which I also proudly claim) is that the commissioned officer did, indeed, spend time in the enlisted ranks.
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>I believe this means he came up through the ranks instead of one of the > service academies or a college ROTC program. > > Bill Shuey > >> I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain? Bill Woodier - 28 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT A "Mustanger" is an officer who is/was prior enlisted.
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> I'm not up on Jarhead lingo. What's a Mustang Captain?
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