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FA: 1/72 Fokker F-II resin kit

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Tom - 05 Oct 2005 19:33 GMT
Full resin kit.

Please look at:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6003311397

Thanks,

Tom
kim - 05 Oct 2005 23:35 GMT
> Full resin kit.
>
> Please look at:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6003311397

This is not important but I thought the registration letters for
Netherlands' aircraft were PH not HN?

(kim)
scotty68 - 06 Oct 2005 07:08 GMT
>> Full resin kit.
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> (kim)

HN (for Holland) was the original letters designated during the advent of
aviation. It was changed to PH after the world ICAO meeting in the late
20s/early 30s to standardise the country codes and designators, and may also
have to do with the country changing its name from Holland to The
Netherlands.

Scott.
kim - 06 Oct 2005 13:00 GMT
>>> Full resin kit.
>>>
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> also have to do with the country changing its name from Holland to The
> Netherlands.

Thanks. By a lucky coincidence my dad's name begins with PH so his air
registration spells out the name of his company.

(kim)
me-me - 06 Oct 2005 14:56 GMT
>>>> Full resin kit.
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> (kim)

The first dutch designation was the "H". The kits marking should read
H - N A B D (NABD evenly spaced)

Later, when the country codes were changed The "P" was added.
P for "Pays Bas" French for The Netherlands.
(Pays = countries, Bas = low; the Low Lountries/Lands)

We Dutch call The Netherlands "Nederland" or "Holland".
Neder = low, Hol = hollow. Most of Holland is below sea level.

Just another lesson learned. One is never too old. Ha!

Cheers,

Dennis
Rob van Riel - 06 Oct 2005 16:06 GMT
> We Dutch call The Netherlands "Nederland" or "Holland".

That should more accurately be "those Dutch who also happen to live in
one of the provinces called Holland"; apparently they have a problem
distinguishing between their part and the whole. The rest tend to stick to
Nederland.

> Neder = low, Hol = hollow. Most of Holland is below sea level.

Possibly correct, although most of The Netherlands isn't.

Rob
r.nijssen - 06 Oct 2005 17:00 GMT
>>>>>Full resin kit.
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> Dennis

No, youre wrong this what is written under Holland in wikipedia:

The name Holland in this and the other entries on this page ultimately
stem from holt land ("wooded land"). A popular, but incorrect, fake
etymology holds that it is derived from hol land ("hollow land"),
inspired by the low-lying geography of both the Dutch and the English
region (Holland, Lincolnshire).

greatings from Den Haag, Nederlang

Rein Nijssen
me-me - 06 Oct 2005 15:00 GMT
>>>> Full resin kit.
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> (kim)

For example see:
http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Commercial_Aviation/netherlands/Tra
n24G1.htm
kim - 06 Oct 2005 21:00 GMT
> For example see:
> http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Commercial_Aviation/netherlands/Tran24G1.htm

Brilliant, thanks.

(kim)
Rob van Riel - 06 Oct 2005 16:09 GMT
> have to do with the country changing its name from Holland to The
> Netherlands.

That's interesting. When was this supposed to have occurred? As near as I
can tell, the last time 'Holland' was used officially to refer to the
whole on the Netherlands was in the eightteenth century. Somewhat predates
heavier than air aviation, I believe.

Rob
me-me - 07 Oct 2005 07:51 GMT
>> have to do with the country changing its name from Holland to The
>> Netherlands.
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> Rob

Hi all,

Rein,
I stand corrected with the Holland/Holtland issue. I really didnt know
that. My mistake.

Rob,
And maybe not most of The Netherlands is below sea level, but al ot of it
is. See: http://home.tiscali.nl/~wr2777/NederlandvsNAP.JPG

Maybe because I live on the higher grounds in the east of the country that
I'm not really concerned about that ;o)

As i said, one is never too old to learn.

Cheers, from Enschede, The Netherlands.

Dennis
scotty68 - 07 Oct 2005 12:08 GMT
>> have to do with the country changing its name from Holland to The
>> Netherlands.
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> Rob

To quote me more correctly: "...and may also have to do with the country
changing its name..."

I did say "may", as a hunch - not "was", as a fact (since it's been known by
both names). No matter.

Scott.
Rob van Riel - 07 Oct 2005 16:20 GMT
> To quote me more correctly: "...and may also have to do with the country
> changing its name..."
>
> I did say "may", as a hunch - not "was", as a fact (since it's been known by
> both names). No matter.

My apologies. I misinterpreted your post as 'the country changed it's
name, and this fact may have prompted the registration change'. 'the
country may have changed it's name, which in turn prompted the
registration change' is also a correct way to read this.

Rob
 
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