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Model Forum / General / Models / October 2005Panzer Schwarzgrau color
I am looking for best acrylic Panzer Schwarzgrau. I used Pactra and I don't like the results. Looks too much like plastic to me. Maybe it's simply too shiny? What about Tamiya? What about ModelMaster? Thanks Maciek >I am looking for best acrylic Panzer Schwarzgrau. I used Pactra and I don't >like the results. Looks too much like plastic to me. Maybe it's simply too [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks >Maciek did you stir the sh.t out of it? gunz is good, but pricey. > I am looking for best acrylic Panzer Schwarzgrau. I used Pactra and I don't > like the results. Looks too much like plastic to me. Maybe it's simply too > shiny? > What about Tamiya? What about ModelMaster? Model Master Acryl is fairly good for a slightly weathered Panzer grey and since it weathered quickly that's a good thing. Gunze makes one that's close as well. Keep in mind the real paint was satin when first applied and some of the model paints dry that way. You can always apply a flat coat. Satin? Really? (In best Johnny Carsopn voice) I did not know that. >> I am looking for best acrylic Panzer Schwarzgrau. I used Pactra and I >> don't like the results. Looks too much like plastic to me. Maybe it's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and some of the model paints dry that way. You can always apply a flat > coat. > Satin? Really? > (In best Johnny Carsopn voice) > > I did not know that. Yep, satin really. Study enough photos pre-war and early war when the paint is still fresh and it'll be obvious. In fact even German aircraft paints were more satin than flat when first applied. Tamiya, Model Master, and Gunze make it. So far I've only used the Tamiya and Model Master Enamel. They both look rather good to me. I added some black to darken it up, instead of lighten it up for scale effect. Read here before that this particular color is too light to begin with. >I am looking for best acrylic Panzer Schwarzgrau. I used Pactra and I don't >like the results. Looks too much like plastic to me. Maybe it's simply too [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks > Maciek > Tamiya, Model Master, and Gunze make it. > > So far I've only used the Tamiya and Model Master Enamel. They both look > rather good to me. I added some black to darken it up, instead of lighten > it up for scale effect. Read here before that this particular color is too > light to begin with. Freshly applied Panzer Grey should be almost black with a touch of blue to it....it did fade out fairly quick in service to a lighter and more neutral tone. The MM and Gunze colors work quite well as is for a tank that's been in the fighting a few months. Thanks again. If it takes one more step out of the painting process, heck process in general, I'm for it. >> Tamiya, Model Master, and Gunze make it. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > neutral tone. The MM and Gunze colors work quite well as is for a tank > that's been in the fighting a few months. > Thanks again. > > If it takes one more step out of the painting process, heck process in > general, I'm for it. Not a problem, just one of those "useless" little bits of knowledge stuck in my warped mind..... What about the other MM and Gunze Panzer colors? Do they need to have anything done to them for scale effect? >> Tamiya, Model Master, and Gunze make it. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > neutral tone. The MM and Gunze colors work quite well as is for a tank > that's been in the fighting a few months. > What about the other MM and Gunze Panzer colors? Do they need to have > anything done to them for scale effect? I don't believe in nor do I use "scale effect".....get far enough away and things are either black or silver. Thanks foy Your advice! And BTW - I noticed that Pactra black color is also somewhat shiny/satin. I used Revell enamel black and it had perfect flatness. I an not sure I use correct words. By shiny/satin I mean paint that reflects the light (like polished marble) and by flat I mean opposite (like black fabric). Is flatness problem of all acrylic paints or it's just Pactra? Thanks again Maciek > Thanks foy Your advice! > And BTW - I noticed that Pactra black color is also somewhat shiny/satin. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks again > Maciek I don't use Pactra so i really can't say. I do know Model Master Acryl and Gunze come in gloss, semi-gloss, satin and flat.....that's going from most shine to least shine. >> Thanks foy Your advice! >> And BTW - I noticed that Pactra black color is also somewhat [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > and Gunze come in gloss, semi-gloss, satin and flat.....that's going > from most shine to least shine. Hi all, I seal all (well not ALL) kits with Pactra flat clear. Now thats flat! And I must say that I have no problem with shinyness with pactra flat black, although it is slightly flatter when I shoot it with my airbrush. But I find that with all the paints I use, whether enamels or acrylics, Tamiya, Humbrol or Pactra. Cheers, Dennis |
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