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[Car] Scale question

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John DeBoo - 24 Oct 2005 03:53 GMT
How the hell did we end up with 1/24 and 1/25 scales?  Was there one
company that decided it wanted to compete against another for all the
marbles and the fallout was 2 scales that are close?  There's got to be
a good story behind this.

I snagged a '56 Chevy 2drht (yup HT, not the sedan) from WalMart today
(not seen it anyplace else) and it was a 1/24.  Porbably 95% of what I
see around is 1/25.  FWIW, it's a Revell Motorworks kit w/ glue, paint,
brush and decals (thats what the box says) for $9.44.

John
Mad-Modeller - 24 Oct 2005 08:29 GMT
> How the hell did we end up with 1/24 and 1/25 scales?  Was there one
> company that decided it wanted to compete against another for all the
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> John

Most of the manufacturers outside the US use 1/24th.  I suppose Monogram
went with 1/24th to attract a bigger audience overseas.  For me it
always meant that I'd just as soon skip their kits.  They just don't
look right sitting with 1/25th cars, especially if they're at all
similar.
Most of my Monogram purchases were the antique cars because a Duesenberg
will look gigantic next to a Model T anyway.  Thus the disparity in
scales was not so evident.  Where I tripped up was going for their
1/24th Thunderbirds.  The '58 doesn't look too good next to AMT's '60.
Nor does their '56 next to AMT's '57.  To make things worse the only
'70s Thunderbird out there is Arii/Otaki's 1/24th '72.  It sure looks
big next to AMT's '71.
I completely skipped all the Mopar muscle and Mustangs they brought out
over the years.  It says something that several years ago they threw in
the towel and put out kits in 1/25th.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Stephen Tontoni - 24 Oct 2005 09:00 GMT
I don't know how the history of scales came to be, but there is an
arithmetic pattern. As I understand it, and I may be wrong, 1/24 and
1/25 had nothing to do with each other; they were of different systems.

One system was:
1/100
1/50
1/25
Obviously, each scale is twice the one preceding it.

Another system was:
1/72 (where the 6' figure is 1" long)
1/48
1/32
In this system, each scale is 1.5 times the one preceding it.

1/24 sort of fits in as it's twice the size of 1/48. 1/96 is half the
size of 1/48. 1/144 makes sense as it's half of 1/72. Similarly 1/200
scale is half of 1/100. So these other scales sort of creep in like
that.

Where 1/35, 1/40, 1/43, 1/76, 1/87 and all the strange scales came from
is beyond me! Don't even start talking about box scales... and the
latest one of those was the William Brothers release of the Lockheed
Electra in 1/53 scale in the 1990s!

--- Tontoni
Don Stauffer - 24 Oct 2005 14:54 GMT
1/24 scale goes back well before plastic modeling. It is an
architectural scale.  Architects like scales they can express as so many
inches per foot.  Look at how many of the popular modeling scales are
divisible by 12.  So 1/12, 1/24, 1/48, 1/76, etc. had roots in
architectural scales.  Of course, there IS such a thing as an
"architectural scale" in the hardware sense. It is frequently a
triangular thing with 6 scales on it, most of the divisible by 12 (or a
fraction of 12) scales
John Smith - 24 Oct 2005 09:30 GMT
> How the hell did we end up with 1/24 and 1/25 scales?  

I don't know this answer but I find a thing funny.

When measuring in feet and inches, scales of multiples of 6 (1:24, 1:48
etc.) have more sense: in 1:24, 2 feet of the real thing equal to 2
inches of the scale model.
When measuring in metres and centimetres, scales of multiples of 5
(1:25, 1:50, 1:200 etc) are a wiser choice. 1 meter in 1:25 scale equals
to 4 cms, plain and easy.

While in N.A. they use imperial measuring, car models are made in 1:25
scale, in the rest of the world where metric measuring is mostly used,
1:24 is the common scale.

Ciao!
R.
frank - 24 Oct 2005 12:34 GMT
I think your math is off on 1/24. 2 feet on the real thing is only 1
inch on the model.
 
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