New Airfix Canberra
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Milton Bell - 23 Nov 2005 17:26 GMT Haven't seen it mentioned here but Airfix showed a really nice 1/48 Canberra at the UK Nats in Telford. Also had a very nice 1/72 Nimrod.
Airfix plans to do four versions of the Canberra, probably for release in late 06.
The Classic Airframes version should be out in the first quarter (perhaps first HALF) of next year.
Got back to Texas yesterday from London and still suffering jet lag. It was a great show.
MB
jwadetjpp@yahoo.com - 23 Nov 2005 17:51 GMT Why oh why do we wait for a 1/48 Canberra only to have two manufacturers compete against each other with near simultaneous releases?!? Perhaps Airfix should consider releasing theirs in 1/72!! (oh please do) Otherwise it is likely to turn into a contest of whose will be cheapest, which Airfix will likely win, or which will be more highly detailed, which is likely to go to CA. In any event there will be some redundancy and I, for one, hate to see the duplication of efforts.
frank - 23 Nov 2005 18:13 GMT I read that Airfix modified their mold to make the B-57B kit, so they can't re-release it in 1/72
Milton Bell - 23 Nov 2005 21:00 GMT It's just one of those things that happen. The CA model will be out first and I have no idea how many versions Jules plans on. He did show me the clear parts (and they are very nice) as if to say "It's on the way!"
The flyer that Airfix circulated lists a B.2,& B.20; a B(1)8 & B(1)12; a PR.9, a B-57B, B-57E, and an RB-57G.
I suspect CA will take a number of early sales since their kit will be out first and it's an early version. I wish them both well. We modelers may have a great year.
MB
> From: jwadetjpp@yahoo.com > Organization: http://groups.google.com [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > be some redundancy and I, for one, hate to see the duplication of > efforts. e - 23 Nov 2005 21:35 GMT >Path: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >MB which recon version was the one with all the extra panels and wingspan? if i remember, in a side by side, the stretcher is almost double the span? that about right?
Jonathan Stilwell - 23 Nov 2005 22:58 GMT ----- Original Message ----- From: "e" <noone@some.domain> Subject: Re: New Airfix Canberra
> which recon version was the one with all the extra panels > and wingspan? if i remember, in a side by side, the > stretcher is almost double the span? that about right? Both the -57D and -57F had extended wingspans, the RB-57F / WB-57F being the larger.
Jon.
e - 24 Nov 2005 00:14 GMT >Path: > news.easynews.com!en206!core-easynews!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easy [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jon. thanks. i remember seeing a conversion in one of the modeling rags in the early 70's. don't remember the kit or rag, wish i could find it because it was really good. maybe tom m can help here?
Greg Heilers - 24 Nov 2005 00:33 GMT >>Path: news.easynews.com!en206!core-easynews!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easy
>>news!news.glorb.com!news2.volia.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t >>-online.de!t-online.de!195.92.193.196.MISMATCH!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > rag, wish i could find it because it was really good. > maybe tom m can help here? "DB Models" did a very nice conversion kit, with resin and vac-form parts. The article to which you refer, may be the February 1993 edition of Fine Scale Modeler. I believe this dealt with the Italeri kit, and the DB conversion kit. Of course, these are 1/72nd scale.
I believe that in a generation past, Airmodel also did a conversion kit.
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e - 24 Nov 2005 00:42 GMT >>>Path: >>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >I believe that in a generation past, Airmodel also did a conversion >kit. thanks greg, but the article i mean was from the 70's. it was a total scratch build on the wings and the guy was a real master. i hope to find it.
Gondor - 24 Nov 2005 11:43 GMT <sniped>
>>I believe that in a generation past, Airmodel also did a conversion >>kit. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > real master. > i hope to find it. Airfix Magazine did a series of articles about the Canberra and I think these are the ones you remember, if you like I can dig out the relevant magazines and scan them for you.
Gondor
davec0v - 24 Nov 2005 14:55 GMT > thanks greg, but the article i mean was from the 70's. it > was a total scratch build on the wings and the guy was a > real master. > i hope to find it. There was an article in the February 1976 of Airfix Magazine showing the conversion of the Airfix kit to an RB-57F. Here are links to scans of the article (six pages in all):
<http://www.davecov.co.uk/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/aircraft/ima ges/february76_rb57f_page1.jpg>
<http://www.davecov.co.uk/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/aircraft/ima ges/february76_rb57f_page2.jpg>
<http://www.davecov.co.uk/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/aircraft/ima ges/february76_rb57f_page3.jpg>
<http://www.davecov.co.uk/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/aircraft/ima ges/february76_rb57f_page4.jpg>
<http://www.davecov.co.uk/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/aircraft/ima ges/february76_rb57f_page5.jpg>
<http://www.davecov.co.uk/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/aircraft/ima ges/february76_rb57f_page6.jpg>
They will be online for the next four weeks.
HTH
Dave
e - 24 Nov 2005 18:09 GMT >> thanks greg, but the article i mean was from the 70's. it >> was a total scratch build on the wings and the guy was a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Dave that isn't it, but it is a keeper. thank you very much.
falkirk1298@btinternet.com - 24 Nov 2005 17:50 GMT I think you may be after the series of articles written by the late Brian Philpot in Airfix Magazine in the late 1970s. Brian died quite a number of years ago but was, as you say, a real master. His articles are still worth reading today.
John
e - 24 Nov 2005 18:10 GMT >I think you may be after the series of articles written by the late >Brian Philpot in Airfix Magazine in the late 1970s. Brian died quite a >number of years ago but was, as you say, a real master. His articles >are still worth reading today. > >John it's a great article, but not the one. it was in an american mag and had thetypical fsm type layout. but thanks.
Mad Modeller - 25 Nov 2005 04:38 GMT > >I think you may be after the series of articles written by the late > >Brian Philpot in Airfix Magazine in the late 1970s. Brian died quite a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > it's a great article, but not the one. it was in an american > mag and had thetypical fsm type layout. but thanks. Got to be "Scale Modeler". They occasionally published good stuff.
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e - 25 Nov 2005 02:49 GMT >> In article <1132854639.543320.145170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i think so, bill. it was a pretty well known plane guy, i believe. he did it up right, new wings, intakes, (iirc) and other subtle changes. posed next to a stocker, it's wings were monsters. any of those still flying? must be an awesome scene.
Mad Modeller - 25 Nov 2005 08:42 GMT I think that all the USAF Canberra recon jobs are grounded. Anyone know better?
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Rich - 25 Nov 2005 07:32 GMT Last of the recy Canberra's were in the 70's... I know the last of the WB-57F's were with the 58th Weather Recconesance Squadron at Kirtland AFB, New Mexico. 3 of these were handed over too NASA (the rest in DM). Of these 3, one is still being used and one source has it (the same bird) primarily being flown for Department of Energy.
This was my primary source:
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/b057i.html
And this was the stuff about the RB-57F:
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/b057-08.html
Rich
>I think that all the USAF Canberra recon jobs are grounded. > Anyone know better? > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. e - 25 Nov 2005 08:21 GMT >Last of the recy Canberra's were in the 70's... I know the last of the >WB-57F's were with the 58th Weather Recconesance Squadron at Kirtland AFB, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. very cool, thanks
Gary Warwick - 25 Nov 2005 13:52 GMT A NASA operated WB-57F flew cosmic dust sampling missions from RAF Mildenhall in the UK during October this year. Check out 'Airforces Monthly' amongst others. Cheers gary.
>I think that all the USAF Canberra recon jobs are grounded. > Anyone know better? > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. maiesm72@netscape.com - 28 Nov 2005 18:29 GMT Let's remember the new High Planes kits in 1/72.
They should be out now, at least the first of them. I havn't seen them yet, but they ar most welcomed.
Tom
dnews@bbbweb.com - 29 Nov 2005 13:01 GMT >Let's remember the new High Planes kits in 1/72. > >They should be out now, at least the first of them. I havn't seen them >yet, but they ar most welcomed. > >Tom We have had the high planes kits in stock and sold them. They do warn or extra effort on the boxes and are recommended for expert modellers only (their words).
David
Jonathan Stilwell - 24 Nov 2005 18:35 GMT > >>> which recon version was the one with all the extra panels > >>> and wingspan? if i remember, in a side by side, the > >>> stretcher is almost double the span? that about right?
> >>Both the -57D and -57F had extended wingspans, the RB-57F / WB-57F being > >>the larger.
> > thanks. i remember seeing a conversion in one of the > > modeling rags in the early 70's. don't remember the kit or > > rag, wish i could find it because it was really good. > > maybe tom m can help here?
> "DB Models" did a very nice conversion kit, with resin and vac-form parts. > The article to which you refer, may be the February 1993 edition of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I believe that in a generation past, Airmodel also did a conversion > kit. DB did conversions for both the -57D and -57F from the Italeri kit; Airmodel did the -57F, High Planes do a limited run injection kit of the -57D and Mach 2 do a limited run -57F. All in 1:72.
Jon.
Rich - 24 Nov 2005 07:42 GMT > The flyer that Airfix circulated lists a B.2,& B.20; a B(1)8 & B(1)12; a > PR.9, a B-57B, B-57E, and an RB-57G. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > MB Oh, be still my beating heart. After discussing the differences in my off shoot thread, and reading up, I belive I trully came down with a harder case of Gotta Build That, and that and that......
I applaud Airfix for cross ponding the variants! Now. Do I also wait for the aftermarket accessories and go for the RB-57F, or the WB version. Will it be USAF with the 58th WRS (from my hometown at Kirtland) or the still flying NASA livery? Oh, or the night attack RB-57B in black... I really should finish those other projects first.
Rich
Milton Bell - 24 Nov 2005 16:32 GMT I suspect the decal makers and resin casters will be having a field day.
BTW, I hear the Canberra will go for about $60 USD. Perhaps we should start a new savings account.
MB
> From: "Rich" <anrcox@REMOVEmindspringDOTcom> > Organization: les newsgroups par Wanadoo [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Rich dnews@bbbweb.com - 24 Nov 2005 10:23 GMT >It's just one of those things that happen. The CA model will be out first >and I have no idea how many versions Jules plans on. He did show me the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> be some redundancy and I, for one, hate to see the duplication of >> efforts. From what I hear, and assuming the same type of time slip as for the TSR2, the Canberra is unlikely to be here before 2007. This gives CA plenty of time to get their's out and sold, given their normal production runs.
David
Milton Bell - 24 Nov 2005 16:29 GMT Airfix had both scale TSR2s on the table but the 1/48 version was still in an early form. Both looked really good. Can't remember what they said about release dates. (can't find my notes!!! #$%^)
That Nimrod in 1/72 was very nice as well.
Revell AG showed their big Antonov transport with both ends open. Also showed their Airbus 380 in Arab Emirates markings (the first operator).
MB
> From: dnews@bbbweb.com > Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > David Ken Duffey - 24 Nov 2005 16:56 GMT The 1:48 scale TSR2 was the master for the 1:72 scale version - don't expect one soon in 1:48 !!!!!
Ken
> Airfix had both scale TSR2s on the table but the 1/48 version was still in > an early form. Both looked really good. Can't remember what they said about [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >>David Milton Bell - 24 Nov 2005 18:42 GMT Thanks Ken. I remember that now from conversations at the Airfix stall. Guess my brain wasn't in gear as I looked at my photostoo many distractions on T-Day.
Also, the models shown in finished form were not the actual Airfix finished prototypes but existing kits that show the size and what the finished article should look like. Still, I like the looks of the Nimrod.
> From: Ken Duffey <kenduffey@su27man.freeserve.co.uk> > Newsgroups: rec.models.scale [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ken Enzo Matrix - 23 Nov 2005 23:32 GMT > Why oh why do we wait for a 1/48 Canberra only to have two > manufacturers compete against each other with near simultaneous [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > be some redundancy and I, for one, hate to see the duplication of > efforts. A similar situation *almost* occurred recently in the model railway world. In the UK both Bachmann and Hornby simultaneoulsy announced plans to produce a GWR Grange. Rather than competing, the companies put their heads together and came up with a solution. Bachmann were able to change their moulds to represent a GWR Hall, which was similar but not identical to the Grange. There was therefore no clash of products and everyone was happy - particularly modellers of the Great Western Railway!
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Dave Fleming - 24 Nov 2005 11:09 GMT >A similar situation *almost* occurred recently in the model railway world. >In the UK both Bachmann and Hornby simultaneoulsy announced plans to produce [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >There was therefore no clash of products and everyone was happy - >particularly modellers of the Great Western Railway! But then both Farish/Bachmann and Dapol have done 'N' guage Class 66s.... Remove nospam to reply!!
Enzo Matrix - 24 Nov 2005 11:51 GMT >> A similar situation *almost* occurred recently in the model railway >> world. In the UK both Bachmann and Hornby simultaneoulsy announced [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > But then both Farish/Bachmann and Dapol have done 'N' guage Class > 66s.... That's true!
I'm just hoping that Bachmann and Hornby clash over a LNWR Claughton. Then one of them can change their minds and make an LYR Dreadnought instead! :o)
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Ted Taylor - 24 Nov 2005 21:37 GMT That Canberra was an Aeroclub model on loan
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> Haven't seen it mentioned here but Airfix showed a really nice 1/48 > Canberra [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MB
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