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e - 02 Dec 2005 20:56 GMT
anyone build the testor's harley motor?
maybe building one would help me stop hating vtwins.
well, vertical v's anyway.
kim - 04 Dec 2005 01:22 GMT
> anyone build the testor's harley motor?
> maybe building one would help me stop hating vtwins.
> well, vertical v's anyway.

There's a very good reason why the engine is 'vertical' (or "in line" as we
say). If it was horizontal the torque would tend to turn the bike over.
Japanese kiddybikes don't have this problem as they can't produce any torque
at low revs to begin with.

(kim)
e - 04 Dec 2005 17:49 GMT
>> anyone build the testor's harley motor?
>> maybe building one would help me stop hating vtwins.
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>(kim)

really? my old r69 didn't turn over. i like opposed traverse
motors, aka, boxers very much.
you also obviously haven't ridden many new japanese bikes.
i can pull up tree stumps with some.
still like brit twins the best.
btw, how can you cal a 275 horse bike a kiddy bike?
nothing wrong with low revs, check the racers.
kim - 05 Dec 2005 11:54 GMT
>>> anyone build the testor's harley motor?
>>> maybe building one would help me stop hating vtwins.
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> btw, how can you cal a 275 horse bike a kiddy bike?
> nothing wrong with low revs, check the racers.

IIRC the Harley V-twin produces more torque at low revs than any other bike
engine on earth and always will because basic design philosophy has changed
since it was first developed. The emphasis today is on high-revs and a high
state of tune. Japanese bikes, especially racers, rely on high-revs to
produce power. British vertical twins have their advantages, especially for
off-road use. IIRC the Triumph Bonneville has the second highest torque of
any bike engine at low revs.

(kim)
e - 05 Dec 2005 17:52 GMT
>>>> anyone build the testor's harley motor?
>>>> maybe building one would help me stop hating vtwins.
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>(kim)

the munch mammoth had more but it wasn't exactly common.
rhe single carn triumph is better at low revs than the
bonnie.
but there are some torky japanese bikes too.
kim - 11 Dec 2005 06:22 GMT
> the munch mammoth had more but it wasn't exactly common.
> rhe single carn triumph is better at low revs than the
> bonnie.

Well, yeah. If you go back far enough but the Bonnie was a beautifully
balanced design which only a quad-bike can replicate today. For my money the
old Triumph was a million times better than the monstrosity which carries
the name today. Likewise the R69 and Harley V-twin. And which of these will
still be a modelling subject in ten years time?

> but there are some torky japanese bikes too.

For a short time, maybe but don't see many _old_ Jap bikes (or cars) on the
road do you?

(kim)
e - 11 Dec 2005 16:01 GMT
>> the munch mammoth had more but it wasn't exactly common.
>> rhe single carn triumph is better at low revs than the
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>(kim)

the vjmc and i would disagree. there are many old jap bikes
out there. i have 5 myself. vintage japanese bikes are a hot
market. try to find a nice superhawk for less than 2k!
my tr6r is a 69 and i love it. it has a mikuni and a boyer
and starts first kick almost always.
i don't like the current triumphs. even the retro bonnie was
ugly, but the are very popular.
old japanese bikes are like old brits, they are out there.
 
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