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Model Forum / General / Models / December 2005hobby Lobby - Anyone feel guilt?
This is strange I know but does anyone else having any feelings of guilt because they only shop at hobby lobby when they have models on sale or when they have a 40% off coupon? I can't remember ever buying a kit at regular price there, since they are priced at MSRP and their selection and stock levels tend to be so so. Every time I go there and buy something I feel like I am getting away with something. I don't have a HL to go to, but I wouldn't feel guilty. You're not stealing the stuff, they're offering the sale. Generally, at 40% off they're at least getting their money back on the item anyway, just not making any profit on the sale items. No guilt here. I have been stopping by daily to pick up the clear plastic dust cover boxes at 3 bucks each. That's a real steal. No guilt; they wouldn't put up sale stuff if they didn't want to move it. it makes room for inventory. Moving stock makes money; stock on the shelf doesn't.. so it's better to break even on something to make room for something else that will sell faster. Now, many people probably will include full-priced stuff on their orders while getting sale stuff. Still others may not use a place like HL until they saw the sale announcements in here. Even this discussion is helping HL! Nah, don't feel guilty! --- Tontoni > I don't have a HL to go to, but I wouldn't feel guilty. You're not > stealing the stuff, they're offering the sale. Generally, at 40% off > they're at least getting their money back on the item anyway, just not > making any profit on the sale items. Oh Frank even at 40% off they're making money. Maybe not a lot, but they are still making some. You would be surprised at how little they pay per case lot. Mike G. I was just going by the general rule of the 2 wholesalers I deal with I get 40% off. >I was just going by the general rule of the 2 wholesalers I deal with I >get 40% off. believe me, you aren't paying cost. Now, cureently I am several thousand miles from an HL. But my rule of thumb when I was closer (C Springs! Represent!) I'd still give my local shop a first crack. But what was good about that was because they also catered exclusivley for the hobby crowd (that is not compeeting for space with the crafts) they might have more specialty items and a larger selection of aircraft. And, a better chance at an older kit. But, HL did have a better sale price, and if it were a common kit, but on the higher end... wallet would win over ethics every time. Rich >>I was just going by the general rule of the 2 wholesalers I deal with I >>get 40% off. >> > believe me, you aren't paying cost. Uh, I'm aware of that. The wholesalers have to make something. Does HL get them from where the wholesalers get them? I wonder what wholesalers costs are. > I don't have a HL to go to, but I wouldn't feel guilty. You're not > stealing the stuff, they're offering the sale. Generally, at 40% off > they're at least getting their money back on the item anyway, just not > making any profit on the sale items. Frank, Hobby Lobby had sales of plus or minus $1.3 Billion last year. When they buy a model, they buy for the whole company, not like the local hobby shop that may buy 5 or 6 of one kit, HL buys several container loads of one kit. The more you buy from the distributor, in HL's case, they buy straight from the manufacturer, the less they pay for the product. So, even when they have the occasional 50 percent off sale, they are making money. And then they have the even rarer 66 percent off sale. About a month ago, the store near my house had some models that had been sitting on the shelves for over 3 months and the sign on the table said "All models on this table at 1/3 of the posted price." If they were not making a profit, they would not be having a sale. Ray Austin, TX === >> I don't have a HL to go to, but I wouldn't feel guilty. You're not >> stealing the stuff, they're offering the sale. Generally, at 40% off [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >sometimes companys will sell at cost to get storage space. some even dump at below cost to get rid of "dead" inventory. prolly not hl, though. its just a loss leader to get you into the store, hoping you will buy something else that is marked up. Its not your fault if you don't buy anything else. be lucky you have an HL near you. Us in the SF Bay Area don't have that luxury.... (we even got stuck with the Raiders and Niners) Craig > its just a loss leader to get you into the store, hoping you will buy > something [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Craig What reasons pertaining to "political correctness" are the SF city government using; to keep Hobby Lobby from wanting to move into that market? Perhaps... 1) Only rich, white Republicans earn enough money to "have hobbies". Therefore, the concept of "hobbies" is discriminatory. 2) Paints and glues are harmful to all those species that have not even been discovered yet. 3) Hobby Lobby sells "war toys" (models) and glue guns (and SF is in the midst of its 100%-gun-free movement). :o)  SignatureGreg Heilers Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.1 (2.6.10) ..... As far as anyone knows we're a nice, normal family. -- Homer Simpson There's No Disgrace Like Home Hobby Lobby is owned by one of those Bible thumping religious right fanatics with real family values. In fact, they are all closed on Sunday. Wow, what a radical idea. There is no way this type of behavior would be tolerated in San Francisco. > Hobby Lobby is owned by one of those Bible thumping religious right > fanatics with real family values. In fact, they are all closed on > Sunday. Wow, what a radical idea. There is no way this type of > behavior would be tolerated in San Francisco. Then how come we ain't got any here in Lancaster? This place is ideal for them. :) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ...who would love to share the guilt..... You just described the owners of the now defunct self-proclaimed largest hobby shop in the world which wasn't too many miles south of San Francisco. The only things that I have purchased there in the past twenty years have been severly marked down. Their nickname was "The Church" and that wasn't meant as a compliment. For the last ten years or so I have been buying from Squander in the same manner. Sale price only and the better the discount the happier I am. About 90% of my modeling dollar goes to Berkeley Ace Hardware. Great selecton, variety, personal attention and always ready to help me find the difficult kit, decal, magazine, book, etc. Tom Is that San Antonio Hobbies? Are they gon? Craig They may be selling the last of their stock. Don't know for sure. Our local IPMSclub did a SF Bay Area hobby shop tour. Didn't include San Antonio as a couple of the guys had been there and said that there wasn't much left. Any SF Bay Area people on here know for sure? We also lost The Plastic Surgeon in Santa Rosa. Dale was a great IPMS supporter, even to the point of having the monthly meetings in the shop and making room for lessons and use of the vacuform, etc. Tom Talked to a friend today. He says that as of last week San Antonio was still opened with some kit prices drastically reduced. Not a big selection, but more than enough to make it worth a visit if you are in the area and you don't mind their way of doing business. Tom > Talked to a friend today. He says that as of last week San Antonio was > still opened with some kit prices drastically reduced. Not a big > selection, but more than enough to make it worth a visit if you are in > the area and you don't mind their way of doing business. > > Tom Went to Palo Alto on a student exchange waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in '85 last century (yep that makes you feel old(er) luckily I was only 15 then (you do the maths). Went to buy a kit and some paints, thinner and stuff. (I think it was a 1/48th corsair II) took it all back to the Netherlands. I still got the thinner bottle with the price tag on it from San Antonio Hobby Shop. I looked at their website and I cant remember the shop looking like that. What I remeber was like a large industrial hall. Maybe the moved in the mean time. Twas a nice trip though. Done a lot of things not possible over here. Ice cubing, cow tipping, boozing (is no problem here, so its not the same as boozing) just had to vent this. Cheers, Dennis San Antonio moved at least three times that I know of, all in the same large shopping center. Tom then I guess I won't be seeing them when I walk down Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley.... Craig I buy at my local HL with some regularity but only when I find "deals." The only time I feel a twinge of guilt is when I go to a 50 off sale and find a kit that was grossly mis-marked to begin with, like my Tamiya Swordfish that had a $24 sticker or the HobbyCraft (Trumpeter) Corsair for $35. But I bought them anyway! MB > From: Jeff Barringer <jeffb@pethobbyist.com> > Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Every time I go there and buy something I feel like I am getting > away with something. >...does anyone else having any feelings >of guilt because they only shop at hobby lobby when they have models >on sale or when they have a 40% off coupon? Nope. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." > This is strange I know but does anyone else having any feelings > of guilt because they only shop at hobby lobby when they have models [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Every time I go there and buy something I feel like I am getting > away with something. Nope no guilt here, sale or no sale. Our lhs doesn't carry Sculpey, artists oils or a very good variety of brushes, which I stock up on every HL sale. Lhs gets my business for all the things HL doesn't carry or can't get through their suppliers. -- Chuck Ryan Springfield OH > This is strange I know but does anyone else having any feelings > of guilt because they only shop at hobby lobby when they have models [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Every time I go there and buy something I feel like I am getting > away with something. Others have opined that HL is *still* making money on these items, even at 40%-50% off. That may, or may not, be true...but that is not the point in these cases. These items are considered to be "unmoving inventory"; so *anything* they get for them is okay. Keeping them in the back room is no option, as very few customers shop the back rooms. Keeping such items on the shelf is no good, if there are (believed to be) more attractive items available to take up shelf space....so the idea is to get rid of them *now* (and if they are lucky, make a few bucks). Now, there *have* been a few cases where I *should* have felt guilty.... such as when they had *three* of the Minicraft "100 Years of Flight - Propliners of the Golden Era" 4-kit sets (1/144th scale DC-3, Constellation, B-377 Stratocruiser, and B-314 Clipper), MIS-marked at $10.01 (about an 80% savings)....but I guess I was distracted when the "No, Greg..." Angel was calling from over my shoulder....as I snagged all three. :o) SignatureGreg Heilers Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.1 (2.6.10) ..... As far as anyone knows we're a nice, normal family. -- Homer Simpson There's No Disgrace Like Home I'm not Jewish, I don't do guilt. Actually, I have bought other things at HL besides models, but I will admit the only reason I was even there was to pick up models at 40-50% off. |
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