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Best Airbrush at Hobbylobby?

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Jeff Barringer - 09 Dec 2005 22:00 GMT
I know they carry the Iwata, Paasche, and Aztec.
I already have  an Iwata revolution. Is that the best airbrush
they have at HobbyLobby?
Milton Bell - 10 Dec 2005 03:01 GMT
Jeff;

The HL in N.Austin on Anderson Lane carries three versions of Iwata. Can't
call the names at the moment but they are all double action. Prices from
$199 and down.

MB

> From: Jeff Barringer <jeffb@pethobbyist.com>
> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
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> I already have  an Iwata revolution. Is that the best airbrush
> they have at HobbyLobby?
Charles Fox - 10 Dec 2005 04:19 GMT
When I finally dumped my Aztec and got an Iwata, it was like stepping out of
the night into the day.

>I know they carry the Iwata, Paasche, and Aztec.
> I already have  an Iwata revolution. Is that the best airbrush
> they have at HobbyLobby?
jimbol51 - 11 Dec 2005 22:44 GMT
Not to be stupid but what is it about the Iwata that puts it head over heals
compared with the Aztek?  Thanks for the input.  Jim
> When I finally dumped my Aztec and got an Iwata, it was like stepping out
> of the night into the day.
>
>>I know they carry the Iwata, Paasche, and Aztec.
>> I already have  an Iwata revolution. Is that the best airbrush
>> they have at HobbyLobby?
Milton Bell - 12 Dec 2005 03:17 GMT
That's Sort of like comparing Timex and Rollex. They both keep reasonably
accurate time.

MB

> From: "jimbol51" <jimbol51@san.rr.com>
> Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
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> Not to be stupid but what is it about the Iwata that puts it head over heals
> compared with the Aztek?  Thanks for the input.  Jim
Jeff Barringer - 12 Dec 2005 14:37 GMT
> That's Sort of like comparing Timex and Rollex. They both keep reasonably
> accurate time.
>
> MB

Yeah but I bet you couldn't strap that Aztec to the hull of a speedboat
drive it around a bit and still have it spray paint ;)

>>From: "jimbol51" <jimbol51@san.rr.com>
>>Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
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>>Not to be stupid but what is it about the Iwata that puts it head over heals
>>compared with the Aztek?  Thanks for the input.  Jim
JDorsett - 13 Dec 2005 06:25 GMT
I have a badger and an Aztec , the badger gives trouble and the Aztec has
been trouble free for about 14years I believe, Aztec seems to take less to
clean it out so must be horses for courses. I just flush with GP Thinners
straight after use with a proper strip down about once a year, so cross my
fingers and hope it keeps going for a few more years  , when it eventually
wears out might try an Iwata.   regards  JimboD

tce

>> That's Sort of like comparing Timex and Rollex. They both keep reasonably
>> accurate time.
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>>>heals
>>>compared with the Aztek?  Thanks for the input.  Jim
The Keeper - 12 Dec 2005 07:18 GMT
> Not to be stupid but what is it about the Iwata that puts it head over heals
> compared with the Aztek?

Iwatas and to a lesser extent the Badger and Paasches are finely
engineered metal airbrushes. The metal will hold fine tolerances. The
Aztec was an attempt to re-invent the wheel in plastic. The tips
definitely need more cleaning than the manufacturer recommends. I've
heard of some folks enjoying their's; I'm playing with one now and it's
workable inside of certain restrictions but it's non metal construction
means it's not going to hold up as an Iwata would.
hth
The Keeper
Rich - 12 Dec 2005 08:01 GMT
> <SNIP>
>...I'm playing with one now and it's
> workable inside of certain restrictions but it's non metal construction
> means it's not going to hold up as an Iwata would.
> hth
> The Keeper

This might be an understatment.  My double action Aztek lasted less then a
year before a little plastic piece indside the handle broke.  I recently
remade the part, in a sense.  I keep it only because sometimes I still need
the double action.  But the tips get bent too easily and start shooting off
to the side.  I have to use some Kentucky windage to get the paint where I
want it.  I also like that it can use either a jar or gravity cup.  The wood
box was a nice touch though.  It does keep the workbench a little more tidy.

Most of my spraying now is with a couple of OLD Sears airbrushes that I
would guess are Badger reboxings.  They are metal, dead beautiul to clean,
have heft, and fewer moving parts.  But, they are single action and no
gravity feed.  I am basicly looking to get a Paasch XL(?) double action.  I
like the open handle for pulling the needle to blow out the nozzle etc.

Rich
Gray Ghost - 13 Dec 2005 04:28 GMT
>> <SNIP>
>>...I'm playing with one now and it's
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>
> Rich

I love my Badgers. I have several, an old exteranl mix I don't use anymore,
2 200s, one set up fine one set up medium, a 150 and a 100 side feed. I only
have one cup for the side feed and am not quite sure the best way to clean
it yet. I got all at great discounts. I bought the heavy, solid handels for
the 150s.

I like the way the feel and spray, I'm getting better with all, I'm really
looking forward to doing some Luftwafee mottle camo. I may buy a top feed
body, just the piece from Badger since I have enough tips and needles
already.

I love 'em. All metal makes cleaning very easy. Lotta times I just break it
down and toss all the metal parts in some clear brush cleaner, swish it
around and let it sit. Q-tips and pipe cleaners are about all you need
besides paper towels.

2 things, I should have fiven the side feed a little more thought before
buying it, but I got a great deal on it on eBay, jut the brush otself but
still nice. I've bought one cup but figure I'll need probably 2 more with
one just for clear thinner to clean it. The color cups on the bottom feed
can be a nuisance sometimes, they are at an odd angle and you have to be
careful how you hold it. The jars are better in that they are more out of
the way, BUT they stick down further (possible clearance problem) and they
usually need more paint to work right (which is a problem for small jobs)
and they are a bit more to clean than a cup. The top (actually gravity)  
feed looks to be reaaly the way to go for me, especially since the large cup
appears to have a screw on lid and the shell doesn't appear to expensive
considering all the other stuff I have.

My concern with the Aztec was fragility (I am very hard on tools sometimes)
and a modest and possibly unfounded concern of the vulnerability of the
plastic to solvents.

Frank
Art Murray - 13 Dec 2005 13:39 GMT
<I have to use some Kentucky windage to get the paint where I
want it.>

That is the *perfect* description!

I have an Aztec and a Paasche.  I use the Aztec 90% of the time despite its
shortcomings simply because it is easy to use and clean.

BTW Testors has dropped their Lifetime Guarranty for the Aztec if that tells
you anything about how they view their own product.  I had to make use of
the Guarranty twice because of the aforementioned part in the trigger that
breaks.  Great customer service, but a pain nonetheless.

Art
dnews@bbbweb.com - 12 Dec 2005 09:13 GMT
>Not to be stupid but what is it about the Iwata that puts it head over heals
>compared with the Aztek?  Thanks for the input.  Jim
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>>> I already have  an Iwata revolution. Is that the best airbrush
>>> they have at HobbyLobby?

I have been a fan of the Aztek since using one for the last 2 or three
years (mind you its the only one I have used for years so its not much
of a comparison). However, I have just boiught a Badger 150 as my
Aztek has failed for the second time in a year. The pull back action
has broken yet again. It appears that Ripmax in the UK don't fix them
any more so I have to ship it back to testors in IL. I am told that
there is a quick turn around - about 2  weeks. I will send it back to
see what the service is like and report back.

If I could get into the body then I might be able to do something
myself but it looks sealed to me.

I also have had issues with the nozzles and have come to the
conclusion that they are a consumable. I stick to the grey nozzle and
replace it every three months. Their idea of no cleaning is just not
viable either - you do have to strip the nozzle down regularly to
clean it.

David
Art Murray - 13 Dec 2005 13:41 GMT
If you open the body of the Aztec you void the warranty.

Testors' customer service is usually excellent.

Art
(who has returned his Aztec twice)

>>Not to be stupid but what is it about the Iwata that puts it head over
>>heals
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>
> David
Milton Bell - 13 Dec 2005 15:51 GMT
I just looked at an Iwata Revolution, gravity feed, at HL and their price
was $99.95. Use that 40% off coupon you can download and it's a really good
price. BTW, there is a bottom feed version of the Revolution also. Same
price.

MB

> From: "Art Murray" <artmurray@bellsouth.net>
> Organization: BellSouth Internet Service
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>>
>> David
me-me - 13 Dec 2005 21:02 GMT
Milton Bell <mbell6@austin.rr.com> wrote in news:BFC4479E.107C0%mbell6
@austin.rr.com:

>  Iwata Revolution

Looks to me as a pretty close contender for my trusty old set of Badgers
100.
I would go for the Gravity fed model.

Cheers,

Dennis
 
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