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Model Forum / General / Models / December 2005Phoney eBay auctions
Hi all - I just got done talking to a friend and had to pass this one along. A couple of weeks ago, he started getting e-mails from strangers asking about an auction that he was running. Except he wasn't running one. So he went to eBay, found the auction in question and as all the information indicated that he was the originator of the auction, he posted a $10,000 bid on the item, a digital camera. From what he said, there was a day or so left on the auction and the high bid was about $300.00. Well, the auction ended on schedule and he was contacted by the person claiming to be - him. This person wanted a payment of cash, money order (not postal) or credit card, no PayPal, BidPay or anything like that. The moron also included his address and ISP address. My friend had enough information on this yutz to get his sorry a.s arrested. Just another tool in our arsenal against crooks. Regards, ...............................The Old Timer > Hi all - I just got done talking to a friend and had to pass this one > along. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > ...............................The Old Timer Yes I have had a couple of similar ones claiming that the money had been paid into my Paypal account, I had 2 of these from different people, again Like your friend I was not selling anything on e-bay but they provided a link on thier e-mail to go to paypal (allegedly)....I was already suspicious so did not clink on that link. I logged into paypal the proper way and there was nothing showing there at all (surprise surprise), Just shows what lengths they will go to, to try and rip you off. Mark. > I logged into paypal the proper way and there was nothing showing there at > all (surprise surprise), Just shows what lengths they will go to, to try and > rip you off. Accoreding to my friend, he logged into eBay, checked under his username and found that he WAS selling a digital camera. That's why he took the stewps that he did. He claims that he figured that eBay would blow him off. > I logged into paypal the proper way and there was nothing showing there at > all (surprise surprise), Just shows what lengths they will go to, to try and > rip you off. Accoreding to my friend, he logged into eBay, checked under his username and found that he WAS selling a digital camera. That's why he took the stewps that he did. He claims that he figured that eBay would blow him off. I sure hope that your friend continues with his quest for justice. He has both criminal and civil grounds on the perpetrator. Aside from sending the phoney to jail he could also net a bit in civil court if he has the time and patience. Good luck. Tom Problem with prosecution is that most of these scammers are out of Lagos, Nigeria............................LOL. Jim I had a similar "adventure" with Ebay. Someone else was using my name and profile info (now deleted, screw their community). Ebay gave out my unlisted phone number without prior consent. And Yes, you must provide a phone number to establish an account with Ebay. I don't recall about PayPal, but since they have your financial data to make and recieve payments the phone number seems to be a minor item. I believe, that even though the rip off artists may be off shore, they can be prosecuted if they use the USPS to operate their scam. Ebay probably doesn't give a flying fig, however mail fraud is another animal, one with real teeth. To be fair, Ebay did call me at home and advised that they had investigated the complaints and that my account had not been compromised. 3 days later, I received a similar notice from paypal. I came out Okay, and I hope the other chaps do too. R/S Bruce > Problem with prosecution is that most of these scammers are out of Lagos, > Nigeria............................LOL. Jim [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com I've gotten a number of those emails from both eBay & PayPal & I just forward them to the respective folks. However, I have a car on eBay right now with a Reserve & a BIN & I've gotten 2 strange emails. Don't know if they're just stupid or up to no good. One guy said he had a client ready to buy it & wanted to know if I'd take a Postal MO that I can cash at my bank (DUH! It's POSTAL!) & what my price is (DUH!, I have a BIN!) & wanted my address so they could send payment. Also, to rest assured he had a shipper to get it. Hey, I don't care if they pay for it & don't come get it, I'll sell it again! I told him to feel free to use the BIN feature & that would give him my info. The next day, I got an email from another guy, a "business man stationed in England" asking if I'd accept a MO. Now, why would someone in England want a '94 Mazda Protege with a blown engine??? Is it really worth it??? I looked at the guy's FB, he had 0, had just signed up on eBay the day he emailed me & according to eBay, is in Singapore! Hmm, a Singapore business man stationed in England wanting a non-running car & wants to pay by MO. Of course, he wanted my price (again, DUH!, It's a BIN option!) & my addy. I never responded to him. > I've gotten a number of those emails from both eBay & PayPal & I just > forward them to the respective folks. However, I have a car on eBay [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > pay by MO. Of course, he wanted my price (again, DUH!, It's a BIN > option!) & my addy. I never responded to him. Bet your bottom Dollar he wasn't English or in Singapore either, you have just described another well known varaint on the Nigerian #419 scam. Mark. >I've gotten a number of those emails from both eBay & PayPal & I just >forward them to the respective folks. However, I have a car on eBay [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >pay by MO. Of course, he wanted my price (again, DUH!, It's a BIN >option!) & my addy. I never responded to him. the nigerians are branching out. i was selling a motorcycle in a socal publication and 3 different guys wanted to send me pomo's for the bike with a "little over" that i should forward to their "shipper". they were in a hurry and wanted me to forward the "little over" the same day i got the mo's. the overage was $3000. i said sure, and in all three cases, took the mo's to the po. they weren't even goof forgeries, so the po got all the info and all were in nigeria. i wouldn't be surprised if china becomes the new nigeria. and why do i never have nuclear weapons when i want them? Actually, Ebay takes fraud very seriously. I know they will help you and look into these scams, as the safety of their customers is important to their business. As to phone numbers, I understand the need for that and the ability to contact you in the case of disputes. My son had a dispute, had paid with PayPal and never received the item. We got the money back with no quesitons asked. I too have received these emails... I have no idea how someone can make money doing this, but so far my account has been secure. Lance Mertz Ketchikan, Alaska >>I've gotten a number of those emails from both eBay & PayPal & I just >>forward them to the respective folks. However, I have a car on eBay [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >i wouldn't be surprised if china becomes the new nigeria. >and why do i never have nuclear weapons when i want them? I received an e-mail today from a guy stating that I had accepted his bid for a camera and pay-pal had sent me the money. Never been on e-bay, never used pay-pal. I just plonked him without reply. Tom > Actually, Ebay takes fraud very seriously. I know they will help you > and look into these scams, as the safety of their customers is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > received these emails... I have no idea how someone can make money > doing this, but so far my account has been secure. The way my friend tells me, this person hacked into his account and got his password somehow. They then started a bogus auction in his name for an item that he didn't have (nor did they probably). He figured that when the winner of the auction paid the money (about $300.00 by this point) they wouldn't see the camera, and he would get the blame. By bidding an obscene amount that nobody could possibly top, he short-circuited the scam and got the goods on these thieves. He mentioned that he couldn't get into his account for a while because the thieves had also changed his password, but was able to go to eBay and get his password changed back so he could get into his account. Think about this, someone gets into an eBay account and sells, well nothing, but gets a couple of hundred bucks for his trouble. Now multiply this by once or twice a week, all with different bogus (or stolen) accounts. That can add up to a large amount of money. I'm glad to state that there is one less this week. Regards, .......................................The Old Timer I received an odd e-mail from someone a week or so ago, written in a rather threatening tone, who claimed that he had won one of my eBay items (and provided an item number - of course it was a bogus auction number). He also said that if I didn't take PayPal, we have no deal and he won't pay (I'm not selling anything on eBay, or anywhere else, at the moment). The "hook" was that, he was kind enough to include a link to PayPal in his e-mail so I could sign up for it and accept his payment. Of course I did not click on it but would not give odds against the fact the url would have taken me to a bogus PayPal sign up page where I would have had to enter my credit card and bank account info. These thief wanna-be's must think we're all brain-dead or something.  SignatureCheers: Bill Woodier "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm -- > Actually, Ebay takes fraud very seriously. I know they will help you > and look into these scams, as the safety of their customers is [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>i wouldn't be surprised if china becomes the new nigeria. >>and why do i never have nuclear weapons when i want them? >I received an odd e-mail from someone a week or so ago, written in a rather >threatening tone, who claimed that he had won one of my eBay items (and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >credit card and bank account info. These thief wanna-be's must think we're >all brain-dead or something. too sadly, there are enough brain dead out there to keep the scum in business. people fall for the damndest scams. a guy sold the eifel tower for scrap, not once, but twice and got away with it. hey beel, you van to buy ze breedge? |
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