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Model Forum / General / Models / December 2005AT-37 Conversion to T-37 Tweet
I'm trying to convert the Monogram AT-37 Dragonfly to the T-37 Tweet that I flew at Laughlin AFB, TX oh so many years ago. I need suggestions on how to handle the wings...anyone out here done that before? I cut the pods off the tips and am wondering, what next....I'm hoping someone out here can provide enough details to help. I know what they look like (I've flown them and am 20 minutes from the Air Force Museum in Dayton). I just need some sage advice on how to model them. I'm just now getting back into it after a 20+yr break..... Any suggestions are appreciated! v/r, P >I'm trying to convert the Monogram AT-37 Dragonfly to the T-37 Tweet that I >flew at Laughlin AFB, TX oh so many years ago. I need suggestions on how to >handle the wings...anyone out here done that before? I cut the pods off the >tips and am wondering, what next....I'm hoping someone out here can provide >enough details to help. I dunno how accurate you want to be but there's a ton of work involved in converting an A-37 kit into a T-37. The Tweet had smaller engines meaning that the engine nacelles in the wing roots were much smaller than they are on an A-37. The A-37 also had a beefed-up main gear with larger wheels & tires and deeper main gear doors. Not to mention the cockpit layout, tip tanks, IFR probe, and other minor external differences. As for your original question, I'm not sure how to handle the engine nacelles and that's the main reason I've never attempted the conversion. IAC now that Sword has released T-38s in both 1/48 and 1/72 (Yay!) maybe we can dare hope that they or one of our other East European friends will bless us with honest-to-goodness T-37s someday...  SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." How does the old 1/40ish Aurora T-37/A-37 stand up? I have one of each in the stash but never really looked at them. Is the A-37 converted from the T or which way? Silly question I'm sure, but do they each have their respective mods? > How does the old 1/40ish Aurora T-37/A-37 stand up? I have one of each > in the stash but never really looked at them. Is the A-37 converted > from the T or which way? Silly question I'm sure, but do they each have > their respective mods? Frank, I believe the A-37 came from the T-37. The 'T' had been around awhile before the attack version was mentioned in the mid-'60s. I used to get all of my info from "Air Progress" back then. Just checked a reference and the T-37As were first delivered in FY1956. I'd guess that the Aurora kit has the markings engraved in the plastic as so many of theirs did. It's been awhile since I saw one and I never really considered it for building. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Seems to me there was a kit of the real T-37. May have been Hawk. Seems to me it was one of those metalized jobs. You're probably thinking of their T-33. >Seems to me there was a kit of the real T-37. Strombecker in 1/43 scale, later reissued by Aurora. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." >How does the old 1/40ish Aurora T-37/A-37 stand up? I have one of each >in the stash but never really looked at them. Not bad but as to be expected from such an old tool it's not very detailed. The 'A-37' kit isn't actually either an A-37A or an A-37B since it doesn't reflect the modifications needed to install the GE J85-GE-5 engines. It's really just a representation of the two T-37Bs that were used to test the concept. BTW, the T-37 was originally a Strombecker kit, as was Aurora's Temco TT-1. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." > I'm trying to convert the Monogram AT-37 Dragonfly to the T-37 Tweet that > I flew at Laughlin AFB, TX oh so many years ago. I need suggestions on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > P Paul, I'm looking for a site by a guy who did this, and I followed his example a couple times. I'll post or mail it to you when I find it. Basicly it meant adding some card stock and putty then just carefully shapeing it. Just use alot of paticence. Al is right, you'll have have something that looks real close, and you'll be shaving off some bitts, filling others, but with the work, it still looks good. Decals will be a pain too. Don't know if this helps, but I'll look in my records for the site. Rich This is my first foray into modelling since the early 1980's, so I'm not getting too creative at this point. The only mods I'm doing is to the wing tips themselves -- the engine nacelles and tires will have to wait for another attempt. I cut the bumps off the bottom, sanded flat the hump off the back, and filled in all the holes where the armament hangs (boy, wouldn't that have been fun to have those in pilot training....). I found this site that discusses it a little bit...I was hoping there's a better way to do it than doing it with putty...but maybe that's the best way. I had thought building the tip up with layers of thin styrene would work, but the contour is too complicated. http://members.aol.com/hubhobnola/hint53.htm I have decals on order from Vince Maddux of VMDecals. He had a set in the works and modified them to look like the ones I flew at Laughlin AFB back in '87. If I ever get it done, I'll see if I can't post a picture on alt.binaries.... Cheers! p > I'm trying to convert the Monogram AT-37 Dragonfly to the T-37 Tweet that I > flew at Laughlin AFB, TX oh so many years ago. I need suggestions on how to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > P Hey, here is another old tweety bird pilot. Saw an A-37 kit in hobby shop the other day, and was tempted to buy it and do the same thing. Let me know how it turns out. |
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