Hobby Article - "Hobby Shops No Longer Hip"
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crw59@earthlink.net - 26 Dec 2005 14:54 GMT >From the Contra Costa Times - Craig
Posted on Sun, Dec. 25, 2005 Hobby shops no longer hip By Renee Koury KNIGHT RIDDER
Before Xbox and the Internet, children flocked to Bob and Jan Johnsons' hobby shop to stock up on airplane models and toy trains. Now they head to the video game store across the street.
For four decades, the couple helped parents hunt for that unique Christmas toy and aided model builders in the search for that hard-to-get chassis, perfect shade of racing-car paint or rare World War II fighter kit.
But the Johnsons are closing the San Antonio Hobby Shop in Mountain View -- one of the Bay Area's biggest -- after one last holiday season, another casualty of the digital onslaught.
"Thirty years ago, you couldn't get in the door of my shop because there would be 25 bicycles out front blocking the entrance, with all the kids coming in," said Bob Johnson, who started the business in 1965 fresh out of school, when he was 21 and Jan was 18. "Now, the kids are all playing with electronics, and the average age of my customers is probably 40 or 50."
Surviving the barrage of electronic gizmos and 3-D action video is a serious puzzle for businesses built on patience, a thousand pieces and a sticky tube of glue.
No one's done an official tally, but the number of hobby shops across the country appears to be dwindling, said Don Hendrick, president of the National Retail Hobby Stores Association in Illinois. More and more, hobby supplies are relegated to a shelf in a toy store. Six hobby shops closed in the past three years in his suburban town outside Chicago, Hendrick said, while just one opened.
Hobby shop owners are adapting by stocking up on what kids like: ready-made models that can be assembled in minutes, and fly or roll with remote controls.
"Kids today don't have the patience to sit there and glue things and wait for them to dry," Hendrick said. "They want something that they can snap together in 20 minutes out of the box so they can go out and fly it. Everything today is fast, fast, fast."
D&J Hobbies in Campbell built a TV ad campaign around the message that model making can be fast and easy. The ad features a black-and-white image of a 1950s dad struggling to build a model, while a color shot of a modern boy holds a plane already made. The slogan says, "We make it simple," said D&J owner Darrell Pozzi.
"We have to change with the times," he said. "If you stay with a horse and buggy, you can't sell it to a crowd that doesn't exist."
One day recently after school, a 6-year-old boy named Darren gravitated to the ready-made airplanes on San Antonio Hobby's emptying shelves when a large-scale model seaplane caught his eye. It was prebuilt.
Darren, with his mother, was the only child browsing Johnson's diminishing stock, alongside about 20 older men. There was Craig Jordan, a 55-year-old supervisor at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, who bought 13 aircraft models at San Antonio Hobby's going-out-of-business sale.
He's been shopping there for 30 years and building models since age 7. "I love to sit in front of the TV and put these together," he said. "They're a real conversation piece, because each plane tells you something about history and aviation."
Ed Doyle, 49, drove to Johnson's recently from San Carlos to buy a water-based acrylic for his model motorcycle. For 20 years, he's shopped at San Antonio Hobby for the paints, tiny brushes, markers and models that other shops don't have.
"Anything you want to find is here," he said. "Now, I don't know where I'll go."
But while only one child was in the hobby shop, the nearby video game store bristled with children, many trying out the new Xbox 360 on display.
"I like Lego too, but I like Xbox a little bit better," said 7-year-old Marcus Alvarado of Mountain View, who was masterminding an animated gun battle. His father, Tony Alvarado, said the lure of video games is strong.
"It's easier to push a button and watch everything happen," he said. "The little hobby shop doesn't stand a chance."
No one stepped up to buy the hobby shop from Johnson, 61, who said the nudge into retirement came when he suffered medical problems earlier this year. But his business already had slowed, he said, because of the dragging economy and competition from online sellers.
He and Jan started 40 years ago with 1,000 square feet in the San Antonio Shopping Center, then gradually spread out into their current store, which is 15 times bigger and about the size of a football field.
At the front of the store, an electric train chugs and whistles around a mountain village. Inside, model planes hang from the ceiling and wooden sailboats stand tilted inside glass cases. Toy train enthusiasts used to test models on another track inside.
San Antonio Hobby Shop has always stocked huge supplies of micro-tools, balsa wood, ready-made and die-cast toys. Now that it's closing, local hobbyists worry those supplies might be harder to find. Several shops remain in the region, including Pozzi's D&J Hobby, Castle Hobbies in San Jose and J&M Hobby House in San Carlos.
But self-acknowledged hobby store addict Alexander Cohen said the retirement of a reputable dealer is another sign of a graying pastime.
"I don't think I'm ever going to grow up," said Cohen, 49, who boasts about the miniature "airport" at his San Jose house, filled with toy planes. He said he spent $1,000 at San Antonio Hobby recently on specialized train tracks, railroad cars and aircraft kits.
"After this place closes, it'll be a terrible day."
PaPaPeng - 26 Dec 2005 16:00 GMT >But the Johnsons are closing the San Antonio Hobby Shop in Mountain >View -- one of the Bay Area's biggest -- after one last holiday season, >another casualty of the digital onslaught. Dang. I was in San Jose earlier this year and never knew about this store. But its true. The hobby shop merchant is fading away. I have more than enough kits in my basement to stock a store so I'll be OK for some years. My only beef with the hobby is the price of kits. They are major investments and I don't impulse buy anymore. The kids will never be able to afford them with pocket money.
crw59@earthlink.net - 26 Dec 2005 16:08 GMT yeah, I had forgotten about that. In the 70's I got $20 allowance for the month. I usually spent it on models in two stores in Berkeley. I could come away with 4-5 models a month. Now $20 gets you one kit and a bottle of paint... Maybe.
Craig
AMPSOne@aol.com - 26 Dec 2005 17:19 GMT Boy, there goes one more reason for me to come back to California. I used to make a trek up there from the language school in Monterey about once every six weeks back in 1973. Greatest shop I had been in up to that point in time.
I for one will sorely miss such a place.
Cookie Sewell (IPMS Monterey 1973-1974)
Don Stauffer - 27 Dec 2005 15:16 GMT > yeah, I had forgotten about that. In the 70's I got $20 allowance for > the month. I usually spent it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Craig Don't most people index their kids allowances for inflation? I did an exercise several years ago. I have some magazines from my teen years (fifties). I also looked up rate of inflation.
What I found is that cheaper kits today did not increase in price at higher than rate of inflation. The most expensive kits did. What has happened is that the variety of kits has greatly expanded. There was a rather narrow range of both price and quality when I was a kid. Today you can still get kits for 8-10 bucks, or get deluxe kits for 80-100 bucks. There WERE no kits comparable to today's deluxe craftsman kits.
Don Stauffer - 27 Dec 2005 15:13 GMT While it is true that kids do not model as much as when we were kids, I suspect it does not affect our hobby that much. This thread comes up about every five years in this group.
While kids were enthusiastic shoppers, adults have always been the money makers. When I was a kid, we bought buck rubber flying models. The adults bought the engines and the expensive radio control models and the RC systems.
Model railroading and model shipbuilding have always been primarily adult hobbies. So adults pay the bills and the profits for hobby shops. Now, folks worry, where will future modelers come from if they do not start as kids?
Like most hobbies, adults can become interested in a hobby as an adult- they do not have to have taken up the hobby as a kid. Now, don't get me wrong- I would like to see more kids in the hobby, and try to undertake efforts to support moves in that direction. However, I feel this way not because the lack of kids threatens my hobby- I just feel it makes for smarter and more well-behaved kids.
It always amazed me working in the aerospace business how many fellow engineers built model airplanes as a kid.
PaPaPeng - 30 Dec 2005 04:58 GMT >While it is true that kids do not model as much as when we were kids, I >suspect it does not affect our hobby that much. This thread comes up >about every five years in this group. True. May I add some of my observations.
From the discussions in this group there is not that much interest in military subjects any more. The grand WWII is already three generations too distant from the current generation of kids to be relevant.
There is perhaps only one main battle tank for a handful of countries with not that many model variations. The same goes for aircraft. So you build one of each and that's that. Then there is little to stimululate the mind with fantasies of evenly matched and exciting enemies. Combat these days are too one sided and we never hear of close calls where the heroes outwitted the opposition. So the latest jet can ly faster, go further, carry more bombs and can overwhelm any other aircraft in existence. So what? The current models can already do that.
If I dare say, modern wars, especially those conducted by the US, are no longer for a noble cause. You can protest. But its the kids coming after us that matter and they are the ultimate realists. They can spot a lie when they hear one. No one ever declares war on the US. Its the US that invents causes to make war on many a weak country and wreaking mayhem on them with impunity. Wearing a uniform and going off to kill and maim hapless civilians and ordinary soldiers with super weapons is not cool. Coming home walking wounded from the same unjustified war even less so.
Modern equipment from cars to consumer electronics and electronic toys have become too complex and minatrurized. Complex equipment is cheap enough and change fast enough to be throwaways. We can no longer take them apart to see what makes them tick. We can't repair anything anymore and its rare to be able to modify or adapt anything for another (play) purpose. Therefore nobody (hobby) experiments or builds things anymore. Just look at your local newsstand magazines for guys. Most of the DIY type hobby magazines have ceased publication. Its collectibles nowadays.
Al Superczynski - 30 Dec 2005 09:21 GMT >From the discussions in this group there is not that much interest in >military subjects any more. What? You must have been reading an alternate RMS.
>Combat these days are too one sided... We need to return to the glorious days of trench warfare! Geez...
>...modern wars, especially those conducted by the US, are >no longer for a noble cause. You can protest. Only because you decided to turn this into a political thread.
>No one ever declares war on the US. You evidently missed bin Laden's declaration then. It was widely publicized at the time and I'm sure you could find reference to it with Google...
>Its the US that invents causes to make war on many a weak country >and wreaking mayhem on them with impunity. What utter bullshit.
>Wearing a uniform and going off to kill and maim hapless civilians... It's so much cooler to be an insurgent and kill them with suicide belts and car bombs, right?
>...and ordinary soldiers with super weapons is not cool. Are you referring to Iraq? There are no 'ordinary soldiers' in the enemy's forces.
>Coming home walking wounded from the same unjustified war even less so. The Iraq war isn't unjustified, and coming home wounded from *any* war isn't 'cool'.
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maiesm72@netscape.com - 30 Dec 2005 19:49 GMT Please don't feed the troll.
It just makes him fatter and happier.
Tom
Mad-Modeller - 27 Dec 2005 06:02 GMT "San Jose house, filled with toy planes"
Aaaaah, they said the 'T' word again and again. How 'cool' can one look when the media still refer to models as 'toys'?
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Jim - 28 Dec 2005 23:41 GMT Thing is, from what I've seen most console games are in the $40 to $50 range. Unless they are old or on sale. What you have to remember is, game consoles plug into the "great babysitter" known as TV. Not to mention that video games, don't require glue and sharp knives/tools to use.
> >From the Contra Costa Times - > [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > "After this place closes, it'll be a terrible day." The Keeper - 29 Dec 2005 06:50 GMT Wasn't San Antonio billed as "world's largest hobby shop" for a long time? It's not just the competition with electronic gaming but internet sales make it a tough market for LHS. The Keeper
maiesm72@netscape.com - 29 Dec 2005 06:59 GMT Don't know if it meant much of a decrease in customers walking into the shop, but for the last dozen or so years a lot of people were a bit put off by the "every customer is a shoplifter" attitude of several of the employees. The second you walked into the store you were shadowed by scowling employees.
Some of the people behind the counters were very helpful with findng things, others seemed to think that customers were a huge inconvenience.
Problem is, that is becoming the status quo of much of American retail businesses.
Tom
thelaws - 29 Dec 2005 13:35 GMT You are too kind Tom, Bob Johnson was/is a born again jerk. Pete
> Don't know if it meant much of a decrease in customers walking into the > shop, but for the last dozen or so years a lot of people were a bit put [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Tom maiesm72@netscape.com - 29 Dec 2005 22:34 GMT That must be why the shop was known as "The Church".
Tom
Mad-Modeller - 30 Dec 2005 05:41 GMT > Don't know if it meant much of a decrease in customers walking into the > shop, but for the last dozen or so years a lot of people were a bit put [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Tom It certainly was the situation at Woolworth's here. My son did some time in the one at the local mall and that was what the clerks were there for. It kind of wore on him and he moved on. That really surprised me as I was a big fan of Woolworth's when I was a kid.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Ron Smith - 30 Dec 2005 08:45 GMT > Problem is, that is becoming the status quo of much of American retail > businesses. Never hesitate to light up the manager or owner when it becomes a matter of customer disservice.
Jeff Barringer - 29 Dec 2005 17:11 GMT > Wasn't San Antonio billed as "world's largest hobby shop" for a long > time? It's not just the competition with electronic gaming but internet > sales make it a tough market for LHS. > The Keeper If LHS (or any other local retail stores) want to compete they will need to embrace internet sales and utilize it effectively as a new channel to the marketplace. Those that can't, don't, or won't, will continue to lose business and see their foot traffic suffer as a result. If they are going out of business, it was their choices they made that caused their business to go downhill.
Hobby shops themselves can survive by adapting to the changing market trends, like pre-painted plastics and die-cast collectables, and R/C cars, and especially electronic gaming, markets that appear to be growing and appeal to the younger buyers.
This will do nothing to stop the fact that our crowd(scale model builders) is aging (and dieing) and is not being replaced 1 to 1 by youngsters. I don't know that anything can be done to resolve this as this is more a cultural shift. This is also happening in the R/C aircraft and model railroading hobbies as well. Going to my local R/C park it's got to be at least 50% retirees.
The future of scale modeling (for builders) is smaller and smaller businesses serving a smaller and smaller marketplace. I hear a lot (and contribute myself sometimes) about the growing costs of modeling, but it is basic economics as a manufacturer that the more you make, the cheaper your unit costs. If your demand receeds, your production numbers are low or demand isn't there to start, your costs will rise. It costs a lot less to make 1,000,000 P-51 kits than 1,000 on a per unit basis.
On the up side, at the moment there seem to be plenty of cottage manufacturers willing to service the market. On the down side 30 years from now there will only be 2 people left on RMS, one a tank guy, and 1 an airplane guy, arguing the relative merits of each.
For the moment we probably have more scale models and modeling products than have ever been available before, in terms of variety, but no one is blasting them out in the gross numbers like the 60's and 70's.
Has anyone done any academic research looking at the scale model idustry history & trends? I would think that it would be facinating to look at industry wide production and trend data all the way back to the 50's
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