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Is there a "better" company for WWI aircraft?

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crw59@earthlink.net - 28 Dec 2005 16:32 GMT
Considering a diversion into pre WWII aircraft.  Is there a company I
should focus on for kits?  I would like this to be a fun diversion, not
spending days scraping flash, etc...

Where to look?

thx - Craig
eyeball - 28 Dec 2005 16:51 GMT
Can't go wrong with Eduard or Roden.If you want something more
nostalgic the old Revell kits were good for their day.
> Considering a diversion into pre WWII aircraft.  Is there a company I
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> thx - Craig
cschultz@sprintmail.com - 28 Dec 2005 16:53 GMT
> Considering a diversion into pre WWII aircraft.  Is there a company I
> should focus on for kits?  I would like this to be a fun diversion, not
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> thx - Craig

Craig, Roden is a great choice.  Inexpensive, well crafted kits with a
great array of choices of aircraft and markings.  I think they set the
standard for 1/72 WWI.  Squadron has most of their line in stock.  I
still have a bunch of the old Revell Collector's Choice kits squirreled
away, and they are a real chore after you get used to Roden's quality.
If anything, they are so well cast that the more delicate components
(interplane struts, for example) are easy to break coming off the
sprue.  The old ESCI kits are okay as well (if you can find them), but
even they are kind of thick in the detail compared to Roden.  

Chris
Gordon McLaughlin - 28 Dec 2005 17:02 GMT
It depends to some extent on the scale you have in mind.  For 1/72nd scale,
I think Roden are probably your best bet.  Eduard also do some very nice
kits in this scale.  A few ex-Toko kits now marketed by Eastern Express are
also worth having.

I can't comment from first hand knowledge on 1/48 scale but Eduard and Roden
are often favourably reviewed and Roden has started to produce models in
1/32 scale.

Have a look at the Roden site here:
http://www.rodenplant.com/

Eduard also do accessories for kits.  There seem to be plenty of suppliers
and some reviews on the Internet.

Gordon McLaughlin

> Considering a diversion into pre WWII aircraft.  Is there a company I
> should focus on for kits?  I would like this to be a fun diversion, not
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> thx - Craig
crw59@earthlink.net - 28 Dec 2005 17:14 GMT
thx all. Should add that I'm trying to avoid photo etch.  Hoping that
there is not too much of it
in WWI aircraft.

I'll check out your suggestions.   have always enjoyed the lines of the
Albatros. Were there ever any without the lozenge camo? Yikes!

Craig
Bill Shatzer - 28 Dec 2005 20:16 GMT
> I'll check out your suggestions.   have always enjoyed the lines of the
> Albatros. Were there ever any without the lozenge camo? Yikes!

Sure.  The lozenge fabric wasn't even introduced until well into
the D.V production run and even then on something of a hit or miss
basis.

Lozenge is absent on the D.IIIs and an appreciable portion of the
D.Vs.  

But applying lozenge decals isn't hard, just tedious. Getting
the effect of the wooden fuselage on the Albatros scouts is
tougher.  I usually ended up selecting a paint scheme where the
fuselage had been overpainted with one or more solid colors.

Cheers,
Shane Weier - 30 Dec 2005 04:19 GMT
"Bill Shatzer"wrote

> Lozenge is absent on the D.IIIs and an appreciable portion of the
> D.Vs.

This isn't entirely true. OAW built D.III's were built after the D.V went
into production and after the introduction of loz. IIRC there are at least a
few with loz covering.

Though, for the OP this doesn't matter - there are also many D.III's without
loz - his preference.

> But applying lozenge decals isn't hard, just tedious.

This is quite true. Some advice from a WW1 specialist will quickly reduce it
to an easy and relaxing chore.

> Getting
> the effect of the wooden fuselage on the Albatros scouts is
> tougher.

Another one where some advice will quickly remove the problems for most
moderately experienced modellers

I suggest that the original poster have a look at

www.wwi-models.org

....and if he's really interested after that, subscribes to the mailing list
and asks his questions. The listees are *always* willing to go over what is
old ground to most for the pleasure of passing their knowledge on to a
newcomer .

OR.....he can email me off of this forum at      bristolf2b (AT) hotmail.com
and I'll happily answer them offline!

Shane Weier
maiesm72@netscape.com - 29 Dec 2005 06:40 GMT
Roden (and Toko, their earlier incarnation) are delightful in many
ways. One is that they provide the tidley bits in the form of injection
molded plastic, which is three dimentional, as opposed to etched metal,
which isn't.

Tom

> thx all. Should add that I'm trying to avoid photo etch.  Hoping that
> there is not too much of it
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> Craig
Stephen Tontoni - 28 Dec 2005 18:38 GMT
> Considering a diversion into pre WWII aircraft.  Is there a company I
> should focus on for kits?  I would like this to be a fun diversion, not
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> thx - Craig

I find the Roden stuff to be over-engineered while Eduard is more simple
to put together. early eduard is difficult while later eduard is very
well designed and ready to go.

Also pre-WWI aircraft is not all WWI... the between wars aircraft were
very colorful and exciting. If you do 1/48, try the Hobbycraft P-26,
P-35 etc; you'll have a lot of fun.

--- Tontoni
Vincent JACQUES - 28 Dec 2005 20:23 GMT
I suggest you to try www.ajpmaquettes.com

vincent

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> --- Tontoni
Dave - 30 Dec 2005 04:35 GMT
Right now the best 1/48 scale kits for the beginner are the Eduard ones.
For a beginning WW1 modeler I would recommend the Nieuport 17 or Albatros
D.III/D.V series.  A note for beginners - most of the Eduard kits are
available in 2 versions - the "Profipack" version includes photoetched
parts, the standard version has all plastic parts and different decals.  But
thier new Fokker D.VII includes prepainted photoetched parts, although many
are optional and do not have to be used to complete the model (although it
looks better with photoetched machine gun jackets and seatbelts).  the Roden
kits are also nice, they are a bit more difficult to build with many more
parts (thier Fokker D.VII includes a full engine bay including optional open
or closed cowl) and do not have any photoetched parts.  Pick an ace or
aircraft you are interested in and we can tell you all available kits and
decals that will fit your list!
Dave
>I suggest you to try www.ajpmaquettes.com
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