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Eduard vs Roden WWI kits?

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jimbol51 - 23 Jan 2006 05:48 GMT
How about Eduard vs Roden WWI aircraft kits as far as quality/accuracy
issues goes?  Jim
Stephen Tontoni - 23 Jan 2006 07:21 GMT
> How about Eduard vs Roden WWI aircraft kits as far as quality/accuracy
> issues goes?  Jim

1/72 or 1/48? In 1/72, Eduard hasn't put that much stuff out yet. I hope
they continue, because it's drop-dead gorgeous work. In contrast, Roden
hasn't done as much in 1/48 as Eduard has.

In any case, I'd choose Eduard every time. Ease of contruction,
intelligent engineering, better decals and instructions.

If you want to compare apples to apples, next time you're in a
well-stocked hobby shop, ask to have open both the 1/48 Roden Fokker
D.VII and the 1/48 Eduard Fokker D.VII. Eduard blows Roden away, in my
opinion.

Similarly, ask to open up a 1/72 Eduard Albatros D.V and a 1/72 Roden or
Toko (same kit) Albatros D.V. Again, Eduard blows Roden away.

Those are two pairs that come to mind immediately that are the same
subject in the same scale. I'm sure there are many more that you could
use to take the pepsi challenge.

--- Tontoni
William H. Shuey - 24 Jan 2006 05:10 GMT
> In any case, I'd choose Eduard every time. Ease of contruction,
> intelligent engineering, better decals and instructions.
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> Similarly, ask to open up a 1/72 Eduard Albatros D.V and a 1/72 Roden or
> Toko (same kit) Albatros D.V. Again, Eduard blows Roden away.

You didn't mention the difference in price between Eduard and Roden. It
is pretty significant on the shelves of my local shop. On the other
hand, the big drop in Eduard prices in the latest Squadron flyer may be
the result of the Roden competition. Personally, I'll take either one as
long as it is a kit of something I want to build.

                        Bill Shuey
Stephen Tontoni - 24 Jan 2006 06:44 GMT
> > In any case, I'd choose Eduard every time. Ease of contruction,
> > intelligent engineering, better decals and instructions.
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>
>                         Bill Shuey

True enough Bill; you pay more for the Eduard stuff. I have a stack of
Roden/Toko now and will get to it some day. The selection in 1/72nd is a
lot of fun.

--- Stephen
jimbol51 - 24 Jan 2006 16:57 GMT
What is your opinion of the 1/8" Hasegawa WWI kits assuming one could afford
one of them?  Are they really worth that kind of money?  Jim

>> > In any case, I'd choose Eduard every time. Ease of contruction,
>> > intelligent engineering, better decals and instructions.
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>
> --- Stephen
Stephen Tontoni - 24 Jan 2006 18:52 GMT
> What is your opinion of the 1/8" Hasegawa WWI kits assuming one could afford
> one of them?  Are they really worth that kind of money?  Jim

I've only seen the SE5a, and it's a pretty amazing museum piece. I
wouldn't plunk that kind of money down on one, but they are mighty nice!
That and where do you put it when done? Smiles!!

--- Tontoni
William H. Shuey - 24 Jan 2006 20:16 GMT
> I have a stack of Roden/Toko now and will get to it some day.
> The selection in 1/72nd is a lot of fun.

How do you do the rigging on those 1/72 scale kits?  Trained spider??

                        Bill Shuey
Stephen Tontoni - 25 Jan 2006 01:43 GMT
> > I have a stack of Roden/Toko now and will get to it some day.
> > The selection in 1/72nd is a lot of fun.
>
> How do you do the rigging on those 1/72 scale kits?  Trained spider??
>
>                         Bill Shuey

Cool idea! I think the guys who do 1/144 stuff do that.. I just
pre-drill holes for the rigging before starting the kit. I used .96lb
(don't ask the gauge; I'd have to look it up) Tippet line and attach it
with CA and accelerator. It's not difficult, just tedious.

I'm pretty happy with gluing directly into the pilot holes, but some
day, I'll try it with PE turnbuckles. That would really look right.

--- Stephen
William H. Shuey - 25 Jan 2006 04:19 GMT
> > How do you do the rigging on those 1/72 scale kits?  Trained spider??
> >
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>
> --- Stephen

Tippet line?? I have heard of it but never seen it. I understand it is
used in fly tying. Where do you get it? All the local sporting goods
stores seem to have is mono filament, and now braided mono filament.

                            Bill Shuey
Ron Smith - 25 Jan 2006 05:14 GMT
> Tippet line?? I have heard of it but never seen it. I understand it is
> used in fly tying. Where do you get it? All the local sporting goods
> stores seem to have is mono filament, and now braided mono filament.

Galyan's, Bass Pro Shops and speciaty places that cater to fly fishers.
Bill Woodier - 26 Jan 2006 00:45 GMT
For rigging, I've used had good luck with single strands from a discarded
pair of my wife's nylons.  It's actually probably a bit underscale for 1/48
as it's really pretty hard to see unless the light hits the strand just
right.  It's quite elastic so you can stretch it and glue it down with CA
and it will never sag.
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>> > I have a stack of Roden/Toko now and will get to it some day.
>> > The selection in 1/72nd is a lot of fun.
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>
> --- Stephen
William H. Shuey - 26 Jan 2006 05:03 GMT
> For rigging, I've used had good luck with single strands from a discarded
> pair of my wife's nylons.  It's actually probably a bit underscale for 1/48
> as it's really pretty hard to see unless the light hits the strand just
> right.

Try darkening it with a magic marker.

            Bill Shuey
maiesm72@netscape.com - 26 Jan 2006 07:32 GMT
You can buy elastic thread such as used in stockings at fabric shops. I
have some in black that's perfect in 1/72 scale.

Without digging through the garage: Do Eduard WWI 1/72 scale kits have
etched metal parts? Roden does not. Instead of flat metal parts they
offer injection molded detail parts that are three dimensional and to
scale. That is a plus. They are not for the faint hearted, though.
Their PKZ-2 can be a real bitch to build and an absolute terror to
rig.!  Almost fun as the Meikraft Capron Ca.3 :-)

Tom
jimbol51 - 26 Jan 2006 16:12 GMT
When you refer to elastic thread where does one go in a fabric shop to find
it being that I have never gone into a fabric shop ie for 1/72 scale?  :>)
Jim
> You can buy elastic thread such as used in stockings at fabric shops. I
> have some in black that's perfect in 1/72 scale.
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>
> Tom
maiesm72@netscape.com - 26 Jan 2006 21:55 GMT
Try the fabric shop section that has spools of thread.

Tom
 
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