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e - 27 Jan 2006 01:39 GMT
got the male and hermaphrodite today. they look pretty
decent. now to find good colors.
Mad Modeller - 27 Jan 2006 05:09 GMT
> got the male and hermaphrodite today. they look pretty
> decent. now to find good colors.

That's the hard way to breed them.  It may only work half the time.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
;)
e - 27 Jan 2006 04:21 GMT
>> got the male and hermaphrodite today. they look pretty
>> decent. now to find good colors.
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
>;)

wizz azz.
Ozmoddler - 28 Jan 2006 06:45 GMT
I always thought that the male was the one the big gun and the one
without the big gun but the machine guns was called a female. A
hermaphrodite  is usually neither  one or the other but can breed by
itself ?
Alan Dicey - 28 Jan 2006 12:59 GMT
> I always thought that the male was the one the big gun and the one
> without the big gun but the machine guns was called a female. A
> hermaphrodite  is usually neither  one or the other but can breed by
> itself ?

"Males" have a 6-pounder and a machine-gun in each sponson, "Females"
have two machine-guns in each sponson; "Hermaphrodites" have one of each
kind of sponson :-) I think you have to put a left-handed one and a
right-handed one together to get a breeding pair......
Brian Hill - 28 Jan 2006 14:14 GMT
>> I always thought that the male was the one the big gun and the one
>> without the big gun but the machine guns was called a female. A
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> of sponson :-) I think you have to put a left-handed one and a
> right-handed one together to get a breeding pair......

I think they just added a six pound gun to a female. I'm not sure it matters
where?

B.H.
Alan Dicey - 29 Jan 2006 00:44 GMT
>>> I always thought that the male was the one the big gun and the one
>>> without the big gun but the machine guns was called a female. A
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> I think they just added a six pound gun to a female. I'm not sure it matters
> where?

Well, I think we can safely say it wasn't in place of the front machine
gun :-)

The 6-pdr sponson is quite different from the 2-mg sponson, both deeper
and wider.  The sponsons could be removed quite easily, indeed they were
taken off to make the tank narrow enough to fit on rail wagons for
transport.  The first Hermaphrodites could even have been a mistake,
afer all it is difficult to see both sides of a Mk.1 at once....

But you are right, in the sense that the hermaphrodite was an upgunned
female, deemed necessary to counter the enemies use of captured tanks to
oppose them.
e - 28 Jan 2006 17:09 GMT
>> I always thought that the male was the one the big gun and the one
>> without the big gun but the machine guns was called a female. A
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>kind of sponson :-) I think you have to put a left-handed one and a
>right-handed one together to get a breeding pair......

nope, all it takes is a fifth.
e - 28 Jan 2006 17:08 GMT
>I always thought that the male was the one the big gun and the one
>without the big gun but the machine guns was called a female. A
>hermaphrodite  is usually neither  one or the other but can breed by
>itself ?

the h has big guns and machine guns and goes to bars in bad
neighborhoods looking for someone obscure ritual called
"rough trade".
Gerald Owens - 29 Jan 2006 01:19 GMT
There seems to be some doubt as to early tank colors in older
publications, and it appears that official orders on the subject were
discarded over the intervening decades. The earliest Mk I tanks were
reportedly finished in overall battleship gray (befitting their origin
with the Admiralty), but later a multi-color dazzle scheme was adopted.
However, due to the track layout, the hull was soon covered by filth,
obscuring any painted patterns, so the dazzle scheme was abandoned and
Mk IV's seem to have been one overall color. Some authors favor Khaki
Green, others an overall medium brown.
Osprey will be releasing a book on the Mk. IV tank series shortly, so
it's color plates should have the latest research on WW 1 colors, and
presumably, the Mk. V's were similarly painted. (Osprey's book on the
Mk I is now available). In the absence of the Osprey book, period
paintings would probably be the best reference, since military artists
would have researched the colors used (paintings after the 1920's might
not be trustworthy, though, as the information would have been lost by
then).
Gerald Owens
 
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