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tubing for .30 & .50 guns

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Teresa  Voyles - 25 Feb 2006 03:47 GMT
Hi all,i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
aircraft(USAAF). Also,what material is better to work
with?Brass,Aluminum,what's your favorite and why? Thanks for any info on
this.
Regards,
Kelly Voyles
Al Superczynski - 25 Feb 2006 06:12 GMT
>i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
>size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
>aircraft(USAAF). Also,what material is better to work
>with?Brass,Aluminum,what's your favorite and why?

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Teresa  Voyles - 25 Feb 2006 15:56 GMT
Thanks Al! Very helpful,I appreciate it,Kelly

>>i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
>>size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
>>aircraft(USAAF). Also,what material is better to work
>>with?Brass,Aluminum,what's your favorite and why?
>
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Don Stauffer - 25 Feb 2006 15:40 GMT
Teresa Voyles wrote:
> Hi all,i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
> size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
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> Regards,
> Kelly Voyles

The ID of the tubing should be about .30/48, or 6 mil (do the same math
for the 50 caliber).  This is VERY small.  I have heard of surgical
stainless steel tubing with this small an ID, but not the normal brass
or aluminum at hobby shops.

On the other hand, you might consider sizing by OD and let ID fend for
itself.  In this case you would probably use 1/16, the smallest you can
ordinarily buy (as in K&S).  Use brass 'cause in that size the aluminum
is a bit fragile.  The gun will be OVERSIZE in OD, but won't look too
bad. If you want to really scale it accurately, you'd need a hobby lathe
and start with brass rod, drill end 6 mil, turn OD to proper size.
Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman - 25 Feb 2006 17:44 GMT
Teresa Voyles wrote:

> Hi all,i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
> size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Regards,
> Kelly Voyles

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When my eldest daughter worked at the ER in one of the local hospitals, she
would get me (new) hypodermic needles that I would cut and use for replacing
the guns on some of the A/C I built - especially the P-47s.  I don't
remember the needle gauge, but they seemed to be the type that would really
hurt if you got poked with them.  So, if you can get some needles, that
would be the way to go, they are stainless steel and have the proper bore.

Ray
Austin, TX
===.
Dave Calhoun - 26 Feb 2006 01:40 GMT
Best 1/48 scale .50 cal. gun barrels
In my oppinion the Karaya barrels look the best, since they are a scale
diameter, and are perforated to match the actual jacket.  They do not make a
.30 gun yet.  Also note that the perforated barrels would not be seen on a
P-47, since they were covered by the steel jackets.  But any bomber that had
.50 cals are an excellent option to use the karaya guns, they are also
available in just the barrels if you don't need the resin receivers.
http://www.karaya.ceti.pl/eng/browning.html
Dave

> Teresa Voyles wrote:
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> Austin, TX
> ===.
Milton Bell - 26 Feb 2006 03:24 GMT
King's Hobby here in Austin sells small cut sections of SS tube in at least
two sizes. The small envelope I have at hand is labeled Minimeca Ref 119,
Tubo 0.80 x 10, 20 unidades. Looks about right for .50 cal. Also you might
want to check out .50 cal. barrels and cooling jackets from Karaya, also at
Kings or found online.

At one of the shows last year I found some lengths (about 8 inches) of steel
tube at should work very well. Wish I could remember the vendor.

MB

> From: "Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman" <rsknk@sbcglobal.net>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
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> Austin, TX
> ===.
Kevin(Bluey) - 26 Feb 2006 10:27 GMT
Teresa Voyles wrote:
> Hi all,i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
> size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Regards,
> Kelly Voyles

I buy needles from the local pharmisist 19 guage is about right for 50
cal in 1/48.I've just done some for my p47N ,basically I use a vernier
caliper or micrometer to measure the kit barrel diameter and measured
needles till i find one that came up to the same diameter.
To cut it I put it in a pin-vice and use a needle file to file a groove
around it ,and snap it off, put it back in the pinvice and square the
end off . I think I used 16guage in my Revell 1/32 P40, which I got from
my local vet ,they use bigger sizes on horses and cattle , than on humans .

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R. Wink - 27 Feb 2006 18:02 GMT
You might want to look at this:
http://www.smallparts.com/products/descriptions/htx-xtw.cfm
Small Parts has all sizes of stainless hypodermic tubing ranging in price from about $2.50 for 6" to about $25.00 for 36"
lengths.
R. Wink

>Hi all,i was wondering if anyone here can put  me onto the info for what
>size tubing could be used to replicate .30 and .50 MGs on 1/48 scale
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Regards,
>Kelly Voyles
JDorsett - 28 Feb 2006 08:19 GMT
I just got my local vet to keep old hypodermics for me , they range from
small to large ( ones you would use on a horse etc.) they are great and
free.
The big benefit with stainless steel tubing is the walls of it are quite
thin and as such look much more to scale than brass copper or Aluminium,
these metals need to be thicker in the walls to give the tubing some
strength.
I also a small bit of hypodermic tubing stuck into the nozzle of a bottle of
Veleao Plastic putty and us as a miniature chalking gun,  yes it does work
and the putty flows through the stainless steel tube, cut about 1cm in
length.  You can apply a neat controlled line of putty alond a join seam etc
and then wipe with a wet finger and it's just about perfect.
Our vet said catching something from the used hypo's is remote but to be
sure I soak the in Metho for about 48hrs just to be sure
                                                                       regards
JimboD

> You might want to look at this:
> http://www.smallparts.com/products/descriptions/htx-xtw.cfm
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>>Regards,
>>Kelly Voyles
 
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