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Tamiya M4A3 Sherman 105mm

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Nigel Heather - 26 Feb 2006 21:42 GMT
I have just purchased this model and I have a couple of questions, one
serious and the other, less so.

Q1
On the upper hull, just behind the driver's hatch is a moulding of some
letters - they look like they shouldn't be there.  As best as I can describe
they are a large letter 'C' in a circle (like a copyright sign), and the
sequences 'E8020', 'B2403', 'LO' and the letter 'I'.

They look to clean to be part of the hull, but at the same time I can't
imagine why a manufacturer as respected as Tamiya would spoil a kit by
putting its labelling in a prominent position on a scale model.

Do I need to remove this (my assumption) or should I leave it because it is
genuine.

Q2
The instructions give three paint options.  Option B is for the 756th Tank
Bttn. operating in Germany in February 1944.

I never knew the US operated Shermans so far behind enemy lines!

Cheers,

Nigel
Dave Calhoun - 26 Feb 2006 22:07 GMT
Hi Nigel,
I'm not a Sherman expert, but believe these numbers are accurate casting
numbers made by the tank manufacturer.  I'm not sure if the casting numbers
would have a consecutive number on each tank, or if it was a common casting
number for the full production run.  But don't scrape them off, I'm sure
they are supposed to be there.
Dave
> I have just purchased this model and I have a couple of questions, one
> serious and the other, less so.
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>
> Nigel
Ron Smith - 27 Feb 2006 00:35 GMT
Those are casting numbers cast integrally with the hull on the real thing.

> On the upper hull, just behind the driver's hatch is a moulding of some
> letters - they look like they shouldn't be there.  As best as I can describe
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Do I need to remove this (my assumption) or should I leave it because it is
> genuine.
Gerald Owens - 27 Feb 2006 00:35 GMT
Those are manufacturer's casting numbers, and they are part of the
original steel parts. Nice of Tamiya to include them, as many older
kits don't have them and the builder has to scrounge numbers by slicing
them off the kit sprues and carefully gluing them in place. The new
Dragon Sherman kits also have the casting numbers on smaller
components, like the suspension units.
The instruction sheet is obviously a typo--the vehicle would be in
Germany in February 1945, not 1944.
Gerald Owens

> I have just purchased this model and I have a couple of questions, one
> serious and the other, less so.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Nigel
Bruce Probst - 27 Feb 2006 05:04 GMT
>Option B is for the 756th Tank Bttn. operating in Germany in February 1944.
>I never knew the US operated Shermans so far behind enemy lines!

It was the elite Para-tank unit; dropped silently at night by Westland
Lysanders, the tank platoons would meet secretly with the German
Resistance and plan surgical strikes on vital communication centres.
During the day they were disguised as kübelwagons.

Bruce Probst
Melbourne, Australia
Enzo Matrix - 27 Feb 2006 11:41 GMT
Bruce Probst offered me a plate of cheese and whispered:
>> Option B is for the 756th Tank Bttn. operating in Germany in
>> February 1944. I never knew the US operated Shermans so far behind
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Resistance and plan surgical strikes on vital communication centres.
> During the day they were disguised as kübelwagons.

Lysanders were only used to air drop the lighter tanks such as Crusaders.
They were unable to lift heavier tanks such as Shermans. This lead to the
withdrawal of the Lysander in this role by early 1943 and replacement with
aircraft which had a great load carrying capability, such as the Farley
Fruitbat.

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Ant Phillips - 27 Feb 2006 19:47 GMT
> Bruce Probst offered me a plate of cheese and whispered:
> >> Option B is for the 756th Tank Bttn. operating in Germany in
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> aircraft which had a great load carrying capability, such as the Farley
> Fruitbat.

Ah ! the Farley Fruitbat, truly a master of all trades, now that we have our
TSR.2's surely it cant be long before our beloved Fruitbat gets the
mainstream injection moulded treatment.

P.S. I hear rumours that the RAF still maintains a squadron of  Fruitbats at
a secret location in deepest Wales, for special Forces use.( Dangnabbit, now
that I've told you I'll have to kill you, and your posts are so informative
too Enzo, just be careful with your next plate of cheese it could be me in
disguise.)

Happy modelling
Ant
Enzo Matrix - 27 Feb 2006 20:06 GMT
Ant Phillips offered me a plate of cheese and whispered:
>> Bruce Probst offered me a plate of cheese and whispered:
>>>> Option B is for the 756th Tank Bttn. operating in Germany in
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> your posts are so informative too Enzo, just be careful with your
> next plate of cheese it could be me in disguise.)

You do realise that I used to be in the RAF, dontcha?  I can tell you that
the "deepest Wales" story is pure disinformation.  There are about a dozen
airworthy Fruitbats still in service, but that is *more* than enough to
provide every RAF airfield with a flight of Fruitbats for QRA. The airframes
may well be over sixty years old, but their internal ECM fit is cutting edge
technology.  Having just gone through their forty-second MLU, modern
Fruitbats with the ECM operating look just like F-35s.  Except they are
purple.

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Ant Phillips - 01 Mar 2006 20:15 GMT
> Ant Phillips offered me a plate of cheese and whispered:
> >> Lysanders were only used to air drop the lighter tanks such as
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Fruitbats with the ECM operating look just like F-35s.  Except they are
> purple.

I guess they're like Triggers broom in Only Fools, remember how he had the
same broom for 20 years but it had 5 new handles and 9 new heads (or
something like that)

And BTW Enzo I know you're ex RAF and I have to say that your post some time
back on Sidewinder colours and construction is probably one of the most
informative posts ever made on this Newsgroup,

Happy modelling
Ant
Enzo Matrix - 01 Mar 2006 22:26 GMT
Ant Phillips sniggered evilly behind my back:
>> Ant Phillips offered me a plate of cheese and whispered:
>>>> Lysanders were only used to air drop the lighter tanks such as
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> some time back on Sidewinder colours and construction is probably one
> of the most informative posts ever made on this Newsgroup,

Thank you!  *strutt*

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