Hi Troops:
I have just spent an hour crawling about on the cellar floor looking
for a dropped landing gear wheel for a 1/48 Hasegawa Hurricane. Now I
know the "part eating carpet" is firmly enshrined in the modellers
Rogues gallery of villains, but a concrete floor???
I've looked under the workbench, the book case, all the nearby shelves,
how can it disappear like that??
Bill Shuey
bluumule - 01 Mar 2006 21:50 GMT
Time to get the flashlight out and get down on your knees. Having the
light at a low angle of attack usually helps me, it will cast a shadow
off the part making it easier to spot. It is probably a natural
concrete gray floor and the wheel is molded in a grey plastic. You
might get lucky and find the parts I dropped! Thankfully I have a HUGE
spares collection. lol
Good luck.
Greg Heilers - 01 Mar 2006 22:00 GMT
> Hi Troops:
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> Bill Shuey
Drop the *other* wheel...and follow its journey. It should
lead you to the first wheel.
:o)

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Enzo Matrix - 01 Mar 2006 22:25 GMT
>> Hi Troops:
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> Drop the *other* wheel...and follow its journey. It should
> lead you to the first wheel.
Yeh right! Chaos theory (and Sod's Law) predicts that it will go in a
totally different direction and you'll lose both of 'em!
Been there! Done that!
Bought another kit for spares...!

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William H. Shuey - 02 Mar 2006 01:55 GMT
> >> Hi Troops:
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> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Oh Well, I can probably get a resin set from True Details. Where's my
Squadron flyer when I need it??
Bill Shuey
Enzo Matrix - 02 Mar 2006 06:53 GMT
>>>> Hi Troops:
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> Oh Well, I can probably get a resin set from True Details. Where's my
> Squadron flyer when I need it??
As an alternative to TD, can I suggest Ultracast? I have been using their
stuff for a while and it is superb.
http://www.ultracast.ca/products/48/076/default.htm
http://www.ultracast.ca/products/48/075/default.htm

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cyberborg 4000 - 01 Mar 2006 22:06 GMT
First of all , I do hope that you the little wayward wheel.
Then when you do then I recommend you give the floor a nice coat of "Hot
Pink"
Parts which hit the floor should show up with little or no trouble at
all then. :) :)
I had pink poster paper under a sheet of plastic on my work bench once
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Mad-Modeller - 02 Mar 2006 06:16 GMT
Ewwwwwwww! Hot pink would be a good reason to avoid going down to the
workbench.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Don Stauffer - 02 Mar 2006 15:06 GMT
> First of all , I do hope that you the little wayward wheel.
>
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> I had pink poster paper under a sheet of plastic on my work bench once
> so that I could find parts that went out of hand
Another thing that helps is a kind of apron. I fastened two spring clips
to the bottom of my workbench. I used an old apron, doubled and sewed,
to make a sheet the width of the opening on my bench (between the drawer
standards, where my legs go) and about 18 inches high. I clip this in
the clips, and drape it over my lap when I sit down. I clip it to the
bench rather than securely fasten it, 'cause it can get caught on my
clothing. This way it pulls free.
This is not foolproof- I still have parts roll off onto floor. But it
DOES cut down on the number. The majority stay in this cloth.
krazcustoms - 02 Mar 2006 02:04 GMT
Don't forget to check your shoes. I had a part that I spent an hour or so
looking for fall out of my shoe when I took them off that night. Mike
Art Murray - 02 Mar 2006 03:45 GMT
LOL!
> Don't forget to check your shoes. I had a part that I spent an hour or so
> looking for fall out of my shoe when I took them off that night. Mike
Dennis - 04 Mar 2006 11:37 GMT
> LOL!
>
>> Don't forget to check your shoes. I had a part that I spent an hour
>> or so looking for fall out of my shoe when I took them off that
>> night. Mike
Or the fold in your trouser legs.
You know, at the bottom, near your shoes.
You'll find things there eventually, but most of the time it's about half a
year after you stopped searching!
Dennis
mark johnston - 02 Mar 2006 04:11 GMT
> Hi Troops:
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> Bill Shuey
I feel your pain. I lost a 1/32 scale radial engine that rolled off my
workbench into oblivion a while back. It was not that small! What is even
more puzzling is that I recently did a major cleaning of the workshop,
pulled everything off the floor, swept and rearranged everything and the
engine never showed up. I'm convinced that plastic modeling disrupts the
space-time continuum somehow, creating black holes that swallow small parts.
Somewhere in the universe there is a huge cloud of missing plastic and PE
parts floating around. Maybe that's the missing dark matter. ... or maybe
I just need to put the cap back on the bottle of Tenax.
Mark
Al Superczynski - 02 Mar 2006 04:25 GMT
>I lost a 1/32 scale radial engine that rolled off my
>workbench into oblivion a while back. It was not that small!
I'll see your engine and raise you an entire model (actually two
in one box). I've got a pair of Airfix 1/72 Spitfire Vs around here
somewhere that I haven't been able to find for *months*. It wouldn't
be so bad except that they're about half built and I sure would like
to finish at least one of them... <sigh> :(

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Mark M - 02 Mar 2006 20:30 GMT
I too feel your pain and lend my support. I was painting my 1/72 Fujimi F7U
Cutlass and it was progressing very nicely when it shot out of the plastic
hemostats and crashed to the floor then into pieces! I picked up most of
them except for the right intake. Oh well, finished it wheels up and hung
so the missing intake doesn't show. Hope your part shows up.
markm70
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> Mark
Art Murray - 03 Mar 2006 00:38 GMT
My most frustrating part search ended after an hour when it finally dawned
on me to look in my pants cuff. There it was all safe and sound.
Art
>> Hi Troops:
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> Mark
crw59@earthlink.net - 02 Mar 2006 04:15 GMT
best way to find a missing part on the floor is to back up while
still in your wheeled chair. the wheels will automatically roll
right over the part. guaranteed.
Craig
Al Superczynski - 02 Mar 2006 04:26 GMT
>best way to find a missing part on the floor is to back up while
>still in your wheeled chair. the wheels will automatically roll
>right over the part. guaranteed.
BTDT, got the t-shirt and baseball cap... ;-p

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Ultan Rooney - 02 Mar 2006 04:26 GMT
> Hi Troops:
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> Bill Shuey
My modelling area has a concrete floor. I have lost count of the number of
parts that I have lost. Most of my models are 1/72 so the parts are smaller
so that may explain why the get lost easier.
The torch shown parallel to the floor has worked for me a number of times.
Other times, I have found parts caught in the fabric of my chair. Recently I
spent an hour looking for the nose Pitot tub of a MiG25 that I accidentally
broke off. Just as I was about to give up in despair, I checked the seat and
there is was.
Hope your find the part
Best of luck
Ultan
jhbright - 02 Mar 2006 04:57 GMT
> Hi Troops:
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> Bill Shuey
My garage floor, by my work bench where I do my modeling, has now come into
equilibrium. I have lost enough stuff in the past that when I loose
something and look for it, I always find something --but rarely the part
I'm looking for. The rule of dropped parts is -- the more important the part
it is, and the harder it is to replace, the more likely it is you are not
going to be able to find it.
J. Bright
Mad-Modeller - 02 Mar 2006 06:14 GMT
My guess is that concrete brings out the 'spring' in parts. I've found
parts far from where I know I saw them hit the floor.
The worst part is that you might find the part with your foot. I found
a missing canopy that way over the weekend. :(
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Dennis - 04 Mar 2006 11:41 GMT
Mad-Modeller <checkreplyto@nextline.com> wrote in news:44068D48.5FDDE246
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> My guess is that concrete brings out the 'spring' in parts. I've found
> parts far from where I know I saw them hit the floor.
> The worst part is that you might find the part with your foot. I found
> a missing canopy that way over the weekend. :(
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Yep, works too.
Take off your shoes 'n' socks, turn off the lights and walk around.
Especially if its a sharp part you'll definatly find it.
OUCH!
Don Stauffer - 02 Mar 2006 15:02 GMT
> Hi Troops:
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> Bill Shuey
No, it is not the carpet itself that eats the parts, it is the plastic
bugs. They prefer to live in carpet, but they will exist on concrete
floors, or even vinyl.
david@bbbweb.com - 03 Mar 2006 14:03 GMT
>> Hi Troops:
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>bugs. They prefer to live in carpet, but they will exist on concrete
>floors, or even vinyl.
Actually, it is proof of the existence of time travel. When parts fall
to the floor they also travel through time so there is no point in
looking for them for at least 5 minutes!
David
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Enzo Matrix - 04 Mar 2006 09:28 GMT
>>> Hi Troops:
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> to the floor they also travel through time so there is no point in
> looking for them for at least 5 minutes!
That's not a problem. When I drop small detail parts I tend to spend the
next five minutes wailing and cursing and waving my fists in the air! It
doesn't actually help, but it makes me feel a lot better! ;-)

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Claus Gustafsen - 04 Mar 2006 10:19 GMT
I belive the timetravel may have longer timespan involved. I have known
things to travel in time from when I was building the model and first appear
again when I have finished the model with a scratchbuilt part (Or sometimes
I cheet and use a part for an identical kit ;^) )

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Don Wheeler - 03 Mar 2006 00:56 GMT
> Hi Troops:
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> Bill Shuey
A tip I saw on TV for finding small items:
Stretch a piece of panty hose over the end of your vacuum cleaner hose.
Vacuum the floor.
Any small parts you come across will be stuck to the panty hose.
- Don
Martin - 03 Mar 2006 13:49 GMT
>>I have just spent an hour crawling about on the cellar floor looking
>>for a dropped landing gear wheel for a 1/48 Hasegawa Hurricane. Now I
>>know the "part eating carpet" is firmly enshrined in the modellers
>>Rogues gallery of villains, but a concrete floor???
>>I've looked under the workbench, the book case, all the nearby shelves,
>>how can it disappear like that??
I model in the sitting room and sit on the floor, worst I had was a part
flying across the room - found it though
Mad-Modeller - 04 Mar 2006 09:39 GMT
> >>I have just spent an hour crawling about on the cellar floor looking
> >>for a dropped landing gear wheel for a 1/48 Hasegawa Hurricane. Now I
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> I model in the sitting room and sit on the floor, worst I had was a part
> flying across the room - found it though
But don't you run the risk of having people step on you, or worse, the
parts?
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Dennis - 04 Mar 2006 11:44 GMT
"Martin" <spamspam@spam.spam> wrote in news:du9hpk$i17$5$8302bc10
@news.demon.co.uk:
>>>I have just spent an hour crawling about on the cellar floor looking
>>>for a dropped landing gear wheel for a 1/48 Hasegawa Hurricane. Now I
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> I model in the sitting room and sit on the floor, worst I had was a part
> flying across the room - found it though
AAAH, I've always wondered why it was called the sitting room!!
This cleares it.
William H. Shuey - 04 Mar 2006 18:42 GMT
much edited:---
Man, I sure seem to have stirred a few bad memories with this post,
haven't I?
:-)
Bill Shuey
Enzo Matrix - 04 Mar 2006 19:40 GMT
> much edited:---
>
> Man, I sure seem to have stirred a few bad memories with this post,
> haven't I?
> :-)
A problem shared is a problem that we can all rant about! ;-)

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