Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp R-1830

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Robert Bartolacci - 04 Mar 2006 04:08 GMT

Hi

I'm working on a Meteor 1/48th PB4Y-2 Privateer conversion, and need some
assistance on references.
I am replaceing the Monogram R-1830's with more accurate R-1830's from
Engines 'N Things.
But the references I have show a variety of colors from dull silver to black
for the cylinders.
Does anyone out there have any good closeups of an R-1830, ideally from a
PB4Y-2 and in color, but good b&w shots of a decent size from any other
aircraft that used the R-1830 would help, such as the B-24, TBD, A-20, etc
would really be a big help.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide :-)

Bob

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Bill Shatzer - 03 Mar 2006 04:52 GMT

> Hi

> I'm working on a Meteor 1/48th PB4Y-2 Privateer conversion, and need some
> assistance on references.
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> aircraft that used the R-1830 would help, such as the B-24, TBD, A-20, etc
> would really be a big help.

'Couple of closeup color photos of R-1830s here:

http://www.enginehistory.org/hendon_&_duxford.htm

Cheeers,

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Bill Shatzer - 03 Mar 2006 05:06 GMT

-snip-

> 'Couple of closeup color photos of R-1830s here:
>
> http://www.enginehistory.org/hendon_&_duxford.htm

I should have added that one should recognize that these photos are of
cleaned up museum displays.

On an actual aircraft, the engines are like to be coated with dirt,
grime, oil, soot, or smashed bugs. Or any combination of any or all of
the foregoing. The actual "in service" engine colors might appear quite
different.

Cheers,

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Don Stauffer - 03 Mar 2006 14:52 GMT

> Hi
>
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>
> Bob

I don't have the URL handy, but the Air Force Museum in Dayton has a web
site with excellent engine pictures from their extensive engine collection.

Keep in mind that the engine parts change color over time. It will look
different when new than with hundreds of hours of operation.

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Dave Calhoun - 05 Mar 2006 01:06 GMT

I volunteered at the New England Air museum, and they have a large
collection of P&W engines. The universal color seems to be as follows: all
engine cylinders were made from aluminum and never painted. the push rods
and rocker arms were painted gloss black, and the crankcase (front cover)
should be painted dark gray (Model master Engine gray is a pretty close
match but a little too dark.) For the cylinders I use Testors steel with a
thin wash of oily black to pick out the dirt and oil between the cooling
fins.
Dave

> > Hi
> >
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> Keep in mind that the engine parts change color over time. It will look
> different when new than with hundreds of hours of operation.

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Robert Bartolacci - 05 Mar 2006 02:02 GMT

Thanks to everyone on the group that helped with advice and photos. The
engines are coming along and I will try to post a shot on plastic pics when
they are done. It's great to be able to ask and get so much good advice :-)
Thanks, everyone!

Bob

>I volunteered at the New England Air museum, and they have a large
> collection of P&W engines. The universal color seems to be as follows:
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> fins.
> Dave

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