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DaveJr - 03 Mar 2006 05:01 GMT
Hi folks,  just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?
Al Superczynski - 03 Mar 2006 05:22 GMT
>...just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
>method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?

    Those characteristics are mutually exclusive.  Do you want the
best, the cheapest, or a workable compromise?
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DaveJr - 03 Mar 2006 05:48 GMT
> >...just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
> >method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?
>
>      Those characteristics are mutually exclusive.  Do you want the
> best, the cheapest, or a workable compromise?

Very true.  I checked the price of Alclad at our local hobby store
and it's pretty pricey.   Decent looking compromise for a P-51D.
What I have on hand is some really good silver spray paint that looks
very chrome when dry and a half a bottle of Model Masters aluminum.
Andy Irving - 03 Mar 2006 14:20 GMT
>>>...just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
>>>method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?
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> What I have on hand is some really good silver spray paint that looks
> very chrome when dry and a half a bottle of Model Masters aluminum.

I have had good luck with automotive touch up Laquer, Specifically
"Nissan Platinum Slver" touchup Spray can
It did a beautifull job on my Mono B36 and a a fraction of the cost of
"Model" paints

Regards
Andy
Al Superczynski - 03 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT
>> >...just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
>> >method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?
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>Very true.  I checked the price of Alclad at our local hobby store
>and it's pretty pricey.  

    Yes, it is, but there's no better spray NMF available IMO.

>Decent looking compromise for a P-51D.
>What I have on hand is some really good silver spray paint that looks
>very chrome when dry and a half a bottle of Model Masters aluminum.

    The spray paint should work just fine then - use an appropriate
clear coat to get the final luster you want.  The MM Aluminum would be
good for its wings since Mustang wings were finished in silver
lacquer, not bare metal.
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Kevin(Bluey) - 04 Mar 2006 07:55 GMT
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>   I checked the price of Alclad at our local hobby store
> and it's pretty pricey.  

True ,Alclad is very expensive ,$12.50 for a one ounce bottle here in Aus.
I use Floquil old silver or bright silver.

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Rufus - 03 Mar 2006 06:56 GMT
> Hi folks,  just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
> method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?

Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
Scotchbrite.  The results are amasing...the surface will even tarnish a
bit over time.

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bluumule - 03 Mar 2006 14:17 GMT
SnJ Spray Metal...the only way to go!  Just my humble opinion.  I
prefer it to all the others.
Andy Irving - 03 Mar 2006 14:27 GMT
> SnJ Spray Metal...the only way to go!  Just my humble opinion.  I
> prefer it to all the others.

I also like it the best for "normal" sized models, unfortunately for us,
I read that Scott was retiring and said he would consider selling the
Company to the right person.
This was from a message from he ent to one of the newsgroups

Regards
Andy
The Collector - 04 Mar 2006 05:21 GMT
> Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
> Scotchbrite.

Is this the same green Scotchbrite abasive pad that's used to remove
three-day old crusted-on casseroles from Corningware pots?  I have a
hard time picturing this stuff being gentle enough to use on plastic
parts.  Am I missing out on a big scale modeling secret by not knowing
about the uses of Scotchbite pads?

Thanks,

Martin
William H. Shuey - 04 Mar 2006 18:36 GMT
> > Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
> > Scotchbrite.
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>
> Martin

Collector:

    That has been my reaction to this also. Seems that stuff would strip
all finish of with one swipe.

                        Bill Shuey
Rufus - 05 Mar 2006 04:39 GMT
>>>Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
>>>Scotchbrite.
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>
>                         Bill Shuey

That's what I was trying to do when I discovered this...I had a Hunter
rocket pod that I had sprayed and seams were showing.  So I thought I
could just use the Scotchbrite to stip the Metalizer off.  To my
surprize, I ended up with a finish that looked like the back of a
teaspoon!  I saned out the offending seams, resprayed, and did the
Scotchbrite trick again.  Got an excellent result.

The trick is that you have to spray the Metalizer onto the BARE plastic.
 Being a laquer, it will bite into the surface.  Then the Scotchbrite
levels both the plastic and the paint at the same time...so you can even
use a rattle-can and get a good result.  That's what I do.

I haven't tried this on a BIG surface yet, but I have a 1/72 Bear J that
is going to get this treatment.  I'll be sure and post pics as it
progresses.

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Rufus - 05 Mar 2006 04:27 GMT
>>Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
>>Scotchbrite.
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>
> Martin

Yes - and the stuff I use (purple) is even more abrasive than that...it
comes in several "grits" (white, grey, green, purple from lightest to
heaviest), and lasts for years when used on plastic. And its washable...

I have a purple slice I got as an industrial sample about 24 years ago
that I still use.  The stuff is marvelous.  I had it a few years before
I tried it on plastic - and WOW!

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DaveJr - 05 Mar 2006 14:46 GMT
> >>Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
> >>Scotchbrite.
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> that I still use.  The stuff is marvelous.  I had it a few years before
> I tried it on plastic - and WOW!

How about toothpaste?
Rufus - 05 Mar 2006 21:13 GMT
>>>>Testors Metalizer - sprayed over bare plastic, and polished with
>>>>Scotchbrite.
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>
> How about toothpaste?

I've heard of that...I've also heard of using cigarette ashes.  I think
Scotchbrite is faster, and less of a mess.

For clear parts I use a scrap of used Bounce fabric softener sheet to
polish the plastic.  Then follow up with a piece of flannel to clean off
any leftover residue.  A bit of handwork, but great results.

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Don Stauffer - 03 Mar 2006 14:55 GMT
> Hi folks,  just wondering what the best (and cheapest)
> method/product for aircraft natural metal finish is?

Natural metal changes its appearance over time, or time between cleaning
and polishing. I remember a squadron commander who had maintainance
troops polish his T33 regularly.  But most operational aircraft dulled
rapidly with time.  Airlines used to keep their planes nice and clean
and shiny, but that was expensive, so they went to painting all over.
For weathered and dull aluminum, paint can work fine. If you want new,
shiny and polished look, then a fancier method like Alclad is necessary.
 
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