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B-58 tire color question

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frank - 21 Mar 2006 16:56 GMT
The XB-70 & YF-12/SR-71 all used tires with some sort of metal
impregnated in the rubber, IIRC, to help withstand heat during extended
high speed flight & look like a silver shade of color. The B-58s tires
are always seen as black. Why were those tires not 'heat treated'?
bluumule - 21 Mar 2006 19:12 GMT
I remember asking a friend who worked at Grissom AFB with me in the
early 80's, he was a civial then, but was active while B-58's were
stationed there.  The tires were of a harder compound or something like
that, they were always getting replacement tires in.  We got a lot of
tires in while I was there for KC-135's and A-10's, but he said it was
nothing compared to the days when the Hustler was around.  Being a
short tire, I would imagine that they didn't last long given the weight
and speed at landings they were subjected to.  The Hustler didn't
operate at the same altitudes the SR and XB-70.  They didn't cruise at
supersonic speeds constantly like the SR does and XB was designed to
do, so heat exposure wasn't as extreme or prolonged.
Dave Williams - 21 Mar 2006 19:18 GMT
> The XB-70 & YF-12/SR-71 all used tires with some sort of metal
> impregnated in the rubber, IIRC, to help withstand heat during extended
> high speed flight & look like a silver shade of color. The B-58s tires
> are always seen as black. Why were those tires not 'heat treated'?

Probably because the XB-70 and SR-71 flew at Mach 3+ and very high
altitudes, and were subject to a lot more airframe heating due to friction.
The Hustler was "only" a Mach 2 aircraft with similar speed to an F-4.

Dave
frank - 21 Mar 2006 22:45 GMT
Makes sense. I was under the impression the B-58 spent more time in
'supercruise'. Thanks.
Dave Williams - 21 Mar 2006 23:00 GMT
Even if the B-58 could sustain Mach 2 for long periods, the heating is
nothing like the friction heat experienced by the Mach 3 SR and XB.  The max
skin temp of an SR-71 at Mach 2 is under 300 degrees.  At Mach 3, it's
pushing 900 degrees.

Dave

> Makes sense. I was under the impression the B-58 spent more time in
> 'supercruise'. Thanks.
The Collector - 22 Mar 2006 04:32 GMT
A bit of trivia I heard about the B-58 tires...

1) B-58 wheels/tires were used on the YF-16A prototype aircraft.
2) B-58 wheels/tires had the fastest rotation rate of any US military
aircraft.

Haven't actually confirmed these statements but they sound intriguing.

Martin
MQM107 - 21 Mar 2006 20:29 GMT
> The XB-70 & YF-12/SR-71 all used tires with some sort of metal
> impregnated in the rubber, IIRC, to help withstand heat during extended
> high speed flight & look like a silver shade of color. The B-58s tires
> are always seen as black. Why were those tires not 'heat treated'?

It may have been that while the B-58 was double sonic it was not
intended to speed alot of time at that speed. The speed was to have
been used in high speed penetrations and departures. Those J79's were
very thirsty engines. The other planes you mentioned also where in the
triple sonic range.
Rich - 21 Mar 2006 21:36 GMT
Could it also be a simple "it wasn't invented yet"?

Rich

>> The XB-70 & YF-12/SR-71 all used tires with some sort of metal
>> impregnated in the rubber, IIRC, to help withstand heat during extended
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> very thirsty engines. The other planes you mentioned also where in the
> triple sonic range.
 
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