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Stickers or decals that will withstand a washing machine.

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madsgormlarsen@gmail.com - 23 Mar 2006 09:49 GMT
I have been looking on the Internet for at way to print either stickers
or decals that will withstand a washing machine. And you seam to know
and awful lot about these matters.
    Is there a way of doing way to print either stickers or decals that
will withstand a washing machine? I need to be able to make about a 100
individual labels each week, to put on jars that will go into a washing
machine repeatedly. I would like if the label could withstand being
washed this way daily, for about 6 months and preferably more -
perhaps for years. If possible I would like the decals or labels to
have the option of cold and silver. If the decals or stickers could
withstand some scratching from being rubbed against one another that
would also be a plus.

Is this possible - what would my options be?

The Alps printer has gone out of production, and I don't think I can
base production on a printer that is out of production. I will need
something were I can fairly quickly replace a broken printer.

Do you know of a printer that replaces the Alps printer?

If I can't do the printing my self, is there a online firm that does
this for a decent prize? What sort of printer would they be using?

Best regards
Mads Gorm Larsen
Rob van Riel - 23 Mar 2006 13:32 GMT
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:49:52 -0800, madsgormlarsen wrote:
> The Alps printer has gone out of production, and I don't think I can
> base production on a printer that is out of production. I will need
> something were I can fairly quickly replace a broken printer.
>
> Do you know of a printer that replaces the Alps printer?

ALPS isn't totally dead. The technology is still used in the Kodak First
Check printing system; they are crtridge compatible with the old ALPS.
They will set you back something like $5000 though.

Rob
madsgormlarsen@gmail.com - 24 Mar 2006 08:25 GMT
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:49:52 -0800, madsgormlarsen wrote:
> > The Alps printer has gone out of production, and I don't think I can
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>
> Rob

Strange that Alps stopped production, sounds like a interessting
product. But 5g is a bit out of my range.

Mads
Rob van Riel - 24 Mar 2006 11:06 GMT
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:25:25 -0800, madsgormlarsen wrote:
> Strange that Alps stopped production, sounds like a interessting
> product. But 5g is a bit out of my range.

Technically, ALPS didn't stop production. They are, by and large, a
manufacturer of components, and the print heads are still produced by
them. They just stopped building them into printers themselves.

Rob
madsgormlarsen@gmail.com - 24 Mar 2006 11:43 GMT
I am looking in to a differnt option right now - folie printers - it
seams you can by stickers with a extra laminated side or cut out
letters of folie. Small companies seam to take as small ordres as just
one sticker for less than 2$ Is there not some off you model people who
are using this option?

I am going to by some and test them in a washing maschine.

/Mads
Greg Heilers - 25 Mar 2006 05:36 GMT
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:25:25 -0800, madsgormlarsen wrote:
>> Strange that Alps stopped production, sounds like a interessting
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>
> Rob

Aren't they still being made and sold for the European
market (under their parent company's name???).  Wouldn't
one just need a voltage converter?  (Assuming one could
easily get one from Europe to begin with...)

On a related topic...I believe there is a Yahoo Group
devoted to the Alps printer, and hobby-related uses:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alpsdecal

Ahhh...I see that the original poster is *already*
utilizing that group...

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madsgormlarsen@gmail.com - 25 Mar 2006 10:37 GMT
I have found a couple of possible solutions. One is inkjet heat
transfer paper. You need a epson printer with a special kind of ink,
som special paper, and a small heat press mascihine. The same kind used
for making t-shirt.

The other option is a cutting plotter, these are used for comercials
put on cars. Stika makes some that are rather small.

And finally one can use a what I guess is a plotter/printer for making
stickers, and then the laminate the stikers.

The question is then how durable are these solutions?

One should think that the cutting plotter would be used be train and
aeroplain model builders?

Thanks for all the help, hope you have more to share.

Best regards
Mads
Rob van Riel - 26 Mar 2006 09:15 GMT
> Aren't they still being made and sold for the European
> market (under their parent company's name???).  Wouldn't
> one just need a voltage converter?  (Assuming one could
> easily get one from Europe to begin with...)

Production and sale under the OKI brand also ended, if I recall correctly
in 2004. Earlier this year, some lucky shop here in The
Netherlands stumbled over a pallet of these printers, and people from as
far as the south of France showed up to buy them. You could check
(www.hofax.nl), but I think it's safe to say that he probably ran out of
them by now as well:-) If you can get a European one, which are called OKI
DP5000 for an ALPS MD5000, and DP7000 for an A3 version, a voltage adapter
should be all you need to get it working.

Rob
Rich - 26 Mar 2006 22:23 GMT
You may not need a converter.  My ALPS is multi voltage, you just need the
right plug.

Check the back wherre the info is written out.

Rich

>> Aren't they still being made and sold for the European
>> market (under their parent company's name???).  Wouldn't
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> Rob
 
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