What colour is red primer?

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Bigbilly - 28 Mar 2006 00:23 GMT

Hi, sounds a dumb question right?
Im looking for some help finding an acrylic colour the same as WW2 German
Red primer.
Im working from an Osprey book that states the colour is RAL 8012 red
primer.
Ive been to all the colour reference sites that IF they do actually mention
RAL8012 call it RED_BROWN and working from the FS number I get tamiya 64 ,
humbrol 160 or Vallejo 872/149 but these are stated as red/chocolate brown
and working from these colours you get RAL 8017.
Which wont work as the colour scheme in question uses both these colours,
and the plates show a big difference.

I would say the colour looks like red oxide primer, anyone know of an ANY
acrylic paint (vallejo my preferred) that would be a good match.

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eyeball - 28 Mar 2006 01:46 GMT

Polly has/had a color called metal primer.Assuming ( I know that's
risky)German red primer was anything like modern spray can shades,it'll
work.

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Bruce Burden - 28 Mar 2006 05:44 GMT

: Im looking for some help finding an acrylic colour the same as WW2 German
: Red primer.

    I believe you have two choices - red lead primer and
red oxide primer. Without checking, I believe red oxide
is the more commonly used primer.

    Both are pretty much the same anywhere you find them,
there isn't anything magical about the formulations.

                            Bruce

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Don Stauffer - 28 Mar 2006 15:21 GMT

> Hi, sounds a dumb question right?
> Im looking for some help finding an acrylic colour the same as WW2 German
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There are a number of general purpose red oxide primers available at
hardware stores and auto parts stores. When red oxide is called for, I
usually use one of those. You can use acrylics over them, but you cannot
use them OVER previous acrylics.

Note that red oxide (usually ferric oxide) is not the same as red lead.

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Gerald Owens - 29 Mar 2006 00:05 GMT

Here is a useful website with German military RAL colors and their
equivelents in model paint ranges.
http://www.miniatures.de/html/int/colour-ral-farben.html
Gerald Owens

> Hi, sounds a dumb question right?
> Im looking for some help finding an acrylic colour the same as WW2 German
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I would say the colour looks like red oxide primer, anyone know of an ANY
> acrylic paint (vallejo my preferred) that would be a good match.

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Bigbilly - 29 Mar 2006 23:53 GMT

Thanks all for the suggestions and Gerald cheers for the web site, I've book
marked it for future use, alas though it doesn't give the ral 8012 red
primer.
I suspect because its a primer and not a top coat. Although in this case the
tanks left the factory (Skoda) with a camouflage scheme of 50% primer the
other 50% made up of 3 or 4 more common colours.
I've managed to sort out a close approximation by mixing the two reds 50/50
that appear on the FS chart either side of the one I wanted

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What colour is red primer?