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feploand@yahoo.co.uk - 29 Apr 2006 08:35 GMT
Hi all,

I got a demand to finish an model with polyester.
To have a better idea about the finish here is link of a picture of a
chair with the required finish:

http://www.metric-in.com/img/chair_detail.jpg

the only thing I know is that this is an ordinary wood chair covered
with...
glass reinforced polyester with silk screen flower pattern...

I've little or no experience with polyester finishing, so I'm looking
for some place to start, book, web  or other basic info that might get
me on track.

All info is greatly appreciated

Jill
Disco58 - 29 Apr 2006 08:58 GMT
Jill--You didn't mention what kind of "model" you're working on, but by the
appearance of the chair and your description, it looks like a standard
resin finish; surfboard and snowboard builders use the same technique.
It's simply a silkscreen applique or airbrush art with a layer of clear
fiberglass resin over it.  It's nothing magical or mysterious; you can use
two-part resin, urethane, varnish, clear lacquer, whatever, so long as all
components are chemically compatible with one another.  Modelers do the
same thing with decals and spray a clear coat of Future floor finish or
some other clear finish over them.  I hope that answers your question.  
Michael
Disco58 - 29 Apr 2006 09:02 GMT
As an afterthought, bear in mind if you use two-part resin it does create
heat in the curing process
feploand@yahoo.co.uk - 29 Apr 2006 14:40 GMT
Michael. you are really helpful. the model i'm working on is a boeing
737. What i do not understand is how did they get the (white) patterns
so well all around the chair parts. Almost like it was done by hand.
I have no exeprience at all with silk screens. is this applied later on
the resin?
Thanks again.
Jill
willshak - 29 Apr 2006 14:54 GMT
>Michael. you are really helpful. the model i'm working on is a boeing
>737. What i do not understand is how did they get the (white) patterns
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>
>  

The pattern could be part of the polyester cloth, or airbrushed, or silk
screened on plain colored polyester and then resin coated. If it were
me, I would do the pattern on the polyester before wrapping it around
something where the pattern would be more difficult to achieve.

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Don Stauffer - 29 Apr 2006 15:19 GMT
> Michael. you are really helpful. the model i'm working on is a boeing
> 737. What i do not understand is how did they get the (white) patterns
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks again.
> Jill

Polyester resin by itself is a clear finish. It can be used to toughen
up wood.  There are far better ways to finish wood in my opinion. If all
they want is a smooth surface on the wood to make it look like metal or
plastic, to take a better finish, there are easier ways.  Epoxy coating
is an even stronger surface, but more expensive.

Go to a crafts store, like Michaels.  They have polyester casting resin.
 Mix up a bit of that, and brush it on and let it sit.  A coating
brushed on or squeegeed on takes far longer to cure than a casting,
however, so use a little extra catalyst and wait several days before
sanding it smooth.

Again, I'd use an acrylic finish as someone else suggested if all they
want is a smooth paintable finish.  You can get acrylic finishes in
spray cans.  Easy to apply, it dries fast.  There are also two-part
acrylic finishes- wicked to apply- very toxic!
Mechanical Menace - 30 Apr 2006 11:02 GMT
Don Stauffer <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in news:XBK4g.11$j%3.3069
@news.uswest.net:

>> Michael. you are really helpful. the model i'm working on is a boeing
>> 737. What i do not understand is how did they get the (white) patterns
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> spray cans.  Easy to apply, it dries fast.  There are also two-part
> acrylic finishes- wicked to apply- very toxic!

Why not have somebody with an alps printer print the designs in white on
clear decal paper, then apply them and cover them with a clear coat.
Should work. We modelers do tha all the time.

Cheers,

Dennis
Don Stauffer - 30 Apr 2006 16:23 GMT
> Don Stauffer <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in news:XBK4g.11$j%3.3069
> @news.uswest.net:
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>
> Dennis

Or, if you cannot find anyone with an Alps, print out design on regular
paper, take a sheet of decal paper and the printout to a copy shop and
have them print design on decal paper. Works fine.
willshak - 30 Apr 2006 20:29 GMT
>> Don Stauffer <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in news:XBK4g.11$j%3.3069
>> @news.uswest.net:
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> regular paper, take a sheet of decal paper and the printout to a copy
> shop and have them print design on decal paper. Works fine.

Anyone try this inkjet decal paper yet?
http://www.bare-metal.com/decals/decal_paper.html

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