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Model Forum / General / Models / May 2006chip off the old block!1 slightly OT
I see that Congressman Kennedy is a real chip off the old block (Senator Ted Kennedy). Driving erratically without lights and sideswiping a police cruiser. When he got out of the car he was staggering and confused, said he had to get to Congress for a vote (Congress had adjourned 3 hours earlier). Before he could be breathalyzed some DC Police big shots showed up and escorted him safely away. Ahh, it pays to be a liberal in Washington. Bill Shuey > I see that Congressman Kennedy is a real chip off the old block (Senator > Ted Kennedy). Driving erratically without lights and sideswiping a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Police big shots showed up and escorted him safely away. > Ahh, it pays to be a liberal in Washington. Slightly OT? I don't see any little bit of model discussion in there. I know for a fact that GOP congresscritters have had similiar favors done for them. Drink your Kool Aid somewhere else. E.P. "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in news:1146787475.530972.180340 @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Drink your Kool Aid somewhere else. Sorry Howlin' Howie Dean has ordered all of it to be delivered in Nov 2008. Not enough left for anyone else. > "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in news:1146787475.530972.180340 > @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sorry Howlin' Howie Dean has ordered all of it to be delivered in Nov 2008. > Not enough left for anyone else. Hmmm, damn nice of him to give it all to Rove and the boys. I guess it must be just what the doctor ordered, hmmm? ;) E.P. >> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in >> news:1146787475.530972.180340 @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > E.P. You are a tard who is a recent drop in and a percentage of you posts touch on the political. And basically you are insulting. Kindly f.ck off and die. <PLONK> > >> "Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in > >> news:1146787475.530972.180340 @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > You are a tard who is a recent drop in and a percentage of you posts touch > on the political. And basically you are insulting. Kindly f.ck off and die. LOL! Look at the anonymous hypocrite cut and run. Nice. E.P. > > I see that Congressman Kennedy is a real chip off the old block (Senator > > Ted Kennedy). Driving erratically without lights and sideswiping a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > E.P. Whaddayamean that you "don't see any little of model discussion here?" Ted Kennedy is a hell of a role MODEL. Ray Austin, TX === > Whaddayamean that you "don't see any little of model discussion here?" Ted > Kennedy is a hell of a role MODEL. Of course it is model related.........besides az's car wreck dios the regular car guys can build a wholefeelt of Drunken Kennedy cars............... Hi Bill, Think you just found a new diorama theme for that anti-IPMS whacko from Arizona to build -- "Famous Kennedy car wrecks!" Cookie Sewell A bridge and water along with the cars would make a nice diorama. Does anyone make a resin 1/25 Jack Daniels bottle? Bill: Had the exact same thoughts. Hub >I see that Congressman Kennedy is a real chip off the old block (Senator > Ted Kennedy). Driving erratically without lights and sideswiping a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bill Shuey ah hell, here we go again. >I see that Congressman Kennedy is a real chip off the old block (Senator > Ted Kennedy). Driving erratically without lights and sideswiping a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bill Shuey ---snippage--- big shots showed up and escorted him safely away. > Ahh, it pays to be a liberal in Washington. > > Bill Shuey Bill, that's not even close to a modeling discussion (slightly OT?) and to suggest that DUI is a liberal monopoly is patently absurd. (see current president... poster child for drug/alcohol abuse and privilege) I would have expected better of you Bill. --- Tontoni > Bill, that's not even close to a modeling discussion (slightly OT?) > and to suggest that DUI is a liberal monopoly is patently absurd. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > --- Tontoni Stevie: You missed my point! I bet a Republican screwing up like that wouldn't get the same treatment. Bill If it were a Republican it would be plastered on every paper and tv screen in the country with reporters shouting how terrible it is. This is a liberal,it will be hushed up within days while the media looks for the next thing to falsely accuse the right wing of... > If it were a Republican it would be plastered on every paper and tv > screen in the country with reporters shouting how terrible it is. > This is a liberal,it will be hushed up within days while the media > looks for the next thing to falsely accuse the right wing of... The head of the CIA stepped down today without warning - that should fill a few news cycles for a while. Also I see the latest errant Kennedy in question is off to rehab. Is it just me or has it gotten to the point that going into rehab has now become something of a "get out of jail FREE card" with some? WmB >>If it were a Republican it would be plastered on every paper and tv >>screen in the country with reporters shouting how terrible it is. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > WmB ...hate to say it, but I guess we can thank Betty Ford for that.  Signature- Rufus > > Bill, that's not even close to a modeling discussion (slightly OT?) > > and to suggest that DUI is a liberal monopoly is patently absurd. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Stevie: You missed my point! I bet a Republican screwing up like that > wouldn't get the same treatment. You'd lose that bet. I know *for a fact* that it's happened to at least two different GOP folks. But those never made even the LOCAL news. Damn conservative media... E.P. > > Stevie: You missed my point! I bet a Republican screwing up like that > > wouldn't get the same treatment. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > E.P. You gotta be kidding!! The CBS crew on 60 minutes would devote a whole hour to that story! I can see Mike Wallace, Cokie Roberts and Ed Bradley drooling over the story now. Bill Shuey > > > Stevie: You missed my point! I bet a Republican screwing up like that > > > wouldn't get the same treatment. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You gotta be kidding!! Nope - dead serious. Even the shift supervisors did not find out. E.P. > > Bill, that's not even close to a modeling discussion (slightly OT?) > > and to suggest that DUI is a liberal monopoly is patently absurd. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Stevie: You missed my point! I bet a Republican screwing up like that > wouldn't get the same treatment. Such as Rush Limbaugh? Why was Dubya's powdery and alcoholic past skimmed over in both elections? It's interesting stuff. The media gauges its audience and produces what they think will sell. If it's the conservatives being raked one week, it may be the liberals the following. The recent trend, considering the bashing the conservatives *should* be taking, is heavily pro-conservative. This picture will change very soon. Mark my words. Regarding Kennedies and substance abuse and difficulty driving; it ain't news. I've never been a fan of any Kennedy (even snubbed one at a T station in Boston) and this is apparently one more of the line. They are sons of privilege, which I find distasteful no matter what the political leaning may be. --- Tontoni > Regarding Kennedies and substance abuse and difficulty driving; it ain't > news. I've never been a fan of any Kennedy (even snubbed one at a T > station in Boston) and this is apparently one more of the line. > > They are sons of privilege, which I find distasteful no matter what the > political leaning may be. That's one thing I can agree with, the Kennedies in general are scum. > > Regarding Kennedies and substance abuse and difficulty driving; it ain't > > news. I've never been a fan of any Kennedy (even snubbed one at a T [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That's one thing I can agree with, the Kennedies in general are scum. Ronny, Ronny, Ronny! How can you say that about the family that the media has called "America's Royalty"?? :-) Bill Shuey (holding his nose) >> > Regarding Kennedies and substance abuse and difficulty driving; it >> > ain't [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bill Shuey (holding his nose) Well in that case... "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!" 8-)D WmB >>That's one thing I can agree with, the Kennedies in general are scum. > Ronny, Ronny, Ronny! How can you say that about the family that the > media has called "America's Royalty"?? :-) > > Bill Shuey (holding his nose) Historical precedents for royal scum........Hapsburgs, Bourbons, Plantagenets, etc., ad nauseous...........;) >> Regarding Kennedies and substance abuse and difficulty driving; it >> ain't news. I've never been a fan of any Kennedy (even snubbed one at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That's one thing I can agree with, the Kennedies in general are scum. You should make that more general, as Usenet is, after all, a world-wide medium. _All_ politicians are scum, and most of their families are, too. Cheers, Gary B-) Signature______________________________________________________________________________ Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know whether you were up them with or not - Barry Humphries >> That's one thing I can agree with, the Kennedies in general are scum. > > You should make that more general, as Usenet is, after all, a world-wide > medium. > > _All_ politicians are scum, and most of their families are, too. OK, the Kennedies are the really frothy part of the scum........... >> That's one thing I can agree with, the Kennedies in general are scum. > > You should make that more general, as Usenet is, after all, a world-wide > medium. > > _All_ politicians are scum, and most of their families are, too. OK, the Kennedies are the frothy part of the scum that contains the really noxious gasses.......... > The media gauges its audience and produces what they think > will sell. If it's the conservatives being raked one week, > it may be the liberals the following. The recent trend, > considering the bashing the conservatives *should* be taking, > is heavily pro-conservative. This picture will change very > soon. Mark my words. I suspect it will change big time in November. Between Iraq and his big oil friends, G.W.'s performance is going to cost the Republican Party both houses of Congress. The next two years will be a National disaster! Bill Shuey >>The media gauges its audience and produces what they think >>will sell. If it's the conservatives being raked one week, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bill Shuey Heh, the really pathetic thing is when this occurs, we'll still be no further ahead than if the other party retained leadership. Either way we're hosed. John > >>The media gauges its audience and produces what they think > >>will sell. If it's the conservatives being raked one week, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > we're hosed. > John I agree we're in trouble, but I don't think the trouble will begin in two years; it began in 2000. Dubya and his cronies have put us in an awful fix and it'll take a long time to recover. I think that true poetic justice could be served if there is some radical shifting of balance in the houses such that Dubya's impeachment can be seriously considered. What cannot be undone are Dubya's supreme court appointments. Again, not that impeachment would do anything substantial, but at least it would be some amount of vindication for having to suffer through this administration. What is scary is that the US is not only getting closer to being a fascist state, but we are edging ever closer to theocracy. That scares the crap out of me. --- Tontoni >...I think that true poetic justice could be served if there is some radical shifting of >balance in the houses such that Dubya's impeachment can be seriously >considered. President Cheney *does* have kind of a nice ring to it... >What cannot be undone are Dubya's supreme court appointments. Such a shame. What's even worse is that he may get to make one or two more before his term ends. Or maybe President Cheney will get to make them. Heh. >...not that impeachment would do anything substantial, but at least >it would be some amount of vindication for having to suffer through this >administration. Why should _you_ get vindication? Where's *my* vindication for having to suffer through eight long years of the Billary presidency? >What is scary is that the US is not only getting closer to being a >fascist state... Proving that you don't have a clue about the definition of 'fascism'. >...but we are edging ever closer to theocracy. Only if bin Laden or his successor wins this war and gets to establish his worldwide Caliphate. >That scares the crap out of me. Are you expecting the 2008 elections to be cancelled? SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." Well Al, I've always said that Dubya is just a heartbeat away from running this country. So having "president cheney" would more than likely be a change in title only, but identical role for him. Same for Goebbels; I mean Rove... >...having "president cheney" would more than >likely be a change in title only, but identical role for him. So what would be the point of impeaching Bush then? By your line of reasoning you guys should impeach Cheney... >Same for Goebbels; I mean Rove... Rove isn't in the presidential line of succession - check the Constitution. BTW - Godwin's Law is now in effect. You lose the arguement automatically. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." I was painting an engine from a 1/25 Model A Ford and I dropped the engine and broke a small chip off the old block. I can't find the chip. What would be a good product to replace the chip? SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To Email, remove the double zeroes after 'at' >I was painting an engine from a 1/25 Model A Ford and I dropped the >engine and broke a small chip off the old block. >I can't find the chip. What would be a good product to replace the chip? Heh. Good one. ;) SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." > >...having "president cheney" would more than > >likely be a change in title only, but identical role for him. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Rove isn't in the presidential line of succession - check the > Constitution. Re-read my post and try to not just pull out snippets to respond to, making it look like I said one thing and not another. I was talking about roles rather than titles, and the guys who are actually running this country. I shouldn't need to explain to you; you're a smart guy. > BTW - Godwin's Law is now in effect. You lose the arguement > automatically. Ah, yes, any reference to nazi party politics automatically destroys one's argument? Was that when I mentioned how the country is approaching fascism and theocracy, or when I called Rove "Goebbels"? You do realize that's not actually a law yet, although I'm sure that there is a bill in some committee somewhere that would make any comparison between this embarrassing administration and a fascist state illegal. Free speech, after all, isn't free either, is it?? (I'm laughing, by the way) Thanks for the chuckle Al; glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor. Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- F20EC3.09552607052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: >> >...having "president cheney" would more than >> >likely be a change in title only, but identical role for him. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > one's argument? Was that when I mentioned how the country is approaching > fascism and theocracy, or when I called Rove "Goebbels"? You do realize Yes, since are obviously to illiterate to really know a damn thing about nazis except that they were "bad" and that calling people you don't like "facist" is supposed to end the argument. You are one sad dumbass. But keep it up, I'm sure the American people will come around and agree that Republicans are really Nazis by 2008. So keep telling your atory. I don't much care for Democrats but they are hardly facists. Just common criminals. > that's not actually a law yet, although I'm sure that there is a bill in > some committee somewhere that would make any comparison between this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks for the chuckle Al; glad to see you haven't lost your sense of > humor. > Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- > F20EC3.09552607052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > I don't much care for Democrats but they are hardly facists. Just common > criminals. Well, the term is fascist, not facist. (yeah you mis-spelled it both times you used the term) Fascism is a term that came about from the fasces, which was the symbol that Italy used for its political movement. It's a bundle of sticks bound together for strength. You've seen a stylized version of it on the Regia Aeronautica aircraft of the 1930's and through WWII. The allusion to the symbol is strength to one out of the strength of many. Hallmarks of fascism tend to be a very strong feeling of nationalism and singularity of purpose (and scapegoating). Further characteristics of the ideology can be dictatorship, totalitarianism, and charismatic leadership. Anyhow, that's my recollection from having studied it as an undergrad many years ago. Are we on the same page? Regarding "...facist" (sic) is supposed to end the argument"... that was godwin's law that Al used. It's got all the power of Murphy, as far as "laws" go... cocktail conversation, like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon or something. I didn't bring it up, so please don't attribute it to me. Try reading posts more carefully before responding. Failing to do that, try not responding! Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- 5CCFDE.00193208052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: > Well, the term is fascist, not facist. (yeah you mis-spelled it both > times you used the term) OOh spelling flame. I'm grievously wounded. > Fascism is a term that came about from the fasces, which was the symbol > that Italy used for its political movement. It's a bundle of sticks > bound together for strength. You've seen a stylized version of it on the > Regia Aeronautica aircraft of the 1930's and through WWII. The allusion > to the symbol is strength to one out of the strength of many. Is that the limit of your understanding? I've studied Hitler and the Nazis, who they were, where they came from, what thier motives were, the social and national pressures and events that surronded them and informed them, thier rise to power the acceptance by the weak around them and the degeneration of humanity and how it fed on itself. It is unfortunately not a simple slogan but rather more complicated. > Hallmarks of fascism tend to be a very strong feeling of nationalism and > singularity of purpose And these are bad why? How the hell do you think we won WWII of got to the moon. To the simple mind it might be a "bad thing". Reality is somewgar different. > (and scapegoating). Are you serious? Are you suggesting any Republican has the balls to say something untoward about a Democrat? Gee, have you heard Howlin' Howie Dean or Al Gore on Republicans. My Doen's syndrome cousin really appreciated the extra chromosone right comments. How about Alec Baldwin and his call to kill the House leaders running the Clinton impeachment and then killing thier wive and families. I've been following the gunissue since 1988. I've heard every sort of miserable libel against gunowners including drug pusher, gang banger child molestor and cop killer. I could direct you to another newsgroup Democrat antigunners libel gunowners in the most fithy way. Sort of like the Germans demeaned the Jews. > Further characteristics of the ideology can be > dictatorship, totalitarianism, Oh yeah we're there already, better hide under your bed, I'm telling the Gestapo on you. > and charismatic leadership. You think Bush is charismatic? How sad for you. Perhaps you should look more closely into the Kennedys since most of the Left would apparently follow them off a bridge. Err, I mean... > Anyhow, that's my recollection from having studied it as an undergrad > many years ago. Are we on the same page? Well if you only interested in the lite version. > Regarding "...facist" (sic) is supposed to end the argument"... that was > godwin's law that Al used. It's got all the power of Murphy, as far as > "laws" go... cocktail conversation, like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon or > something. I didn't bring it up, so please don't attribute it to me. You used the term fascist to refernce the Bush administration and compared Rove to Goebels. You're a dope. > Try reading posts more carefully before responding. Failing to do that, > try not responding! Read very clearly. Perhaps you should reread your palaver. Frank -- drivel snipped-- > Frank Frank, glad to know your name. Right now I can't quite believe I've been wasting energy at all to talk to you. Big mistake on my part; I've now killfiled you. Not because we disagree, but because you're abusive. ---Tontoni Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- 91C75D.21543909052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: > -- drivel snipped-- > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ---Tontoni Coward. Same courtesy to you, worm. Typical lefty run and cry when a.s is whipped. > Coward. > > Same courtesy to you, worm. Typical lefty run and cry when a.s is whipped. I actually laughed out loud at the irony. Dude, you are too damn funny for words. E.P. > > Coward. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > E.P. Ed, don't bother engaging him. I'm only sorry I wasted as much energy and thought as I did. See ya. > > > Coward. > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Ed, don't bother engaging him. I'm only sorry I wasted as much energy > and thought as I did. See ya. Oh, I knew it was a waste of time long before this. I just think it's so funny that he moans about the cowardliness of killfiling, after having just done that to me. I doubt his type even understands what irony is. E.P. Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- 91C75D.21543909052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: > -- drivel snipped-- > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ---Tontoni I dare you to show where I was abusive. Unless of course being showed up for the hate filled fool you are is abusive. If so you need to get out more and be really abused. Your kind is a joke. You expect your "conservative" opponents to be brainless Neanderthals and the moment one replies with anything besides grunts and rebuts your ridiculous assertions you want to run and hide like a 3 year old girl who's wet her panties. But I really want you to know I want your type to tell your story loud and long. Be proud of the stuff you spew, let the world know. See how far that gets you. >I was talking about roles rather than titles... Perhaps you could have made that more clear. >...any reference to nazi party politics automatically destroys >one's argument? Yes, when the comparison is odious and inaccurate. >Was that when I mentioned how the country is approaching >fascism and theocracy, or when I called Rove "Goebbels"? The latter. >...I'm sure that there is a bill in some committee somewhere that would >make any comparison between this embarrassing administration and a >fascist state illegal. That's one of the biggest problems with opponents of this administration. Assertions by innuendo with absolutely no basis in fact. They _feel_ something is so, so it must be so. <http://zapatopi.net/afdb/> >Free speech, after all, isn't free either, is it? I'm not trying to stifle your speech, I'm mocking it. Can't take the heat? Stay out of the kitchen. >...glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor. If I didn't have a healthy sense of humor I never could have survived the previous administration. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." > What is scary is that the US is not only getting closer to being a > fascist state, but we are edging ever closer to theocracy. That > scares the crap out of me. > > --- Tontoni As a person whose ancestors were French Huguenots who barely escaped France after the Saint Bartholomew's Day massacre I agree 100%. If there is one thing that really makes me see red it's these idiots who run around spouting the idea that our founding Fathers didn't really mean for there to be separation of Church and State. They damned well did because 200 years ago Europe's religious wars were still of very recent memory. And those wars were caused by just the type of religious fervor and intolerance being exhibited by some of these nut cases coming out of the woodwork around G.W. And next to them there are the left wing fools like Mike Wallace & Co. who are saying the 2nd Amendment doesn't really mean to protect individual rights where weapons are concerned. He probably has never read The Federalist Papers and wouldn't if they were placed in front of him. Bill Shuey Who has studied too much history! >> What is scary is that the US is not only getting closer to being a >> fascist state, but we are edging ever closer to theocracy. That [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Bill Shuey > Who has studied too much history! Yes, but it doesn't mean that people who are religious are excluded or in any way bars them from brining thier beliefs with them to public service. Humanism, secularism, atheism, marxism are also belief systems. Are they to be the only ones permiteed in office? How does a Christian come to office and discard that which he believes is right in favor of that which he believes is wrong because it is the nonreligiously influenced view. I am still waiting for a secularist to tell why it's bad to kill someone or take thier money if it advances my own needs. I would argue that between taxation, overregulation that forces additional costs on people and abortion on demand I'd say they really can't. There is a considerable difference between being a moral and/or religious nation that governs by the set of laws we've established and a government that is based on a particular religion that penalizes all others - Europe until the 1800s and Islam up and until today. If we cannot recognize theis we really are through. Becuase then instead of being the (flawed) exception to the divine rights kingdoms/empires/etc, we willbecome wroshipers of secualrism and intolerant of any religious views that aren't "value nuetral" as if such a thing were even possible. Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- 6E6EE3.17451406052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: > What is scary is that the US is not only getting closer to being a > fascist state, I am really getting sick of this. Do have the slightest understanding of what facism really is? Have you studied nazism and it's rise to power, the Italian Facisti and what brought them about? I am no fan of Bush but calling Bush and the Republicans "facists" is the worst sort of stupid, simple minded illiteracy. For one thing much of the really ugly things being said about Bush wouldn't be, the loud mouths would be in jail or worse. And how about all the leaking from CIA and every other disgruntled governemt drone. Do you seriously believe that Hitler or Mussoline would have tolerated .01% of this, or allow one of it's top aides to be indicted on frankly very shaky grounds by a prosecuter from the opposite party. Just how stupid are you or do you think we all are. I am frankly of the opinion that GW's nickname should be Half Measure. He isn't nearly as hard on our external eenmies as he should be and he isn't anywhere as hard on the domestic treason crowd as he is legally entitled to be. Please, Bush has got enough issues that make him less than desirable, lack of border enforcement or getting tough on illegals for two, but to accuse him of facism?!? This only shows an appaling lack of education on your part a lack BTW that says I shouldn't regard anything that you say as credible or rooted in reality. Clinton was a boor, a jackass and a perjurer but that no more made him a "facist" than the mewling of the surrender at any cost Left makes Bush a facist. Grow up. >>>>The media gauges its audience and produces what they think >>>>will sell. If it's the conservatives being raked one week, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > --- Tontoni I don't see impeachment in any manner ever occurring. By the time they did his term would be over. Its a symbol only and its not symmbols we need, its decisive action. We simply cannot continue in the mode we are. The system is broken, badly, and its going to take awhile to fix, along with some tough choices. If we leave it to the politicians and attorneys to fix it'll never get done. Hell, they got us here along with our apathy as a whole. If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got. John > >>>>The media gauges its audience and produces what they think > >>>>will sell. If it's the conservatives being raked one week, [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > you'll always get what you always got. > John Yeah I know John; we're in a pickle and impeachment wouldn't do much at this time. It would be some amount of satisfaction, but too late to be any more than that. "Stephen Tontoni" <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in message news:tontoni- > Yeah I know John; we're in a pickle and impeachment wouldn't do much at > this time. It would be some amount of satisfaction, but too late to be > any more than that. But you'd damn well grind the country to a stop and set it in poltical turmoil to enjoy your pound of flesh, wouldn't you? Be honest here, and there's no need lay a second year poli-sci civics course on me in reply - I pretty much know how governments work at this point. WmB > "Stephen Tontoni" <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in message news:tontoni- > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > WmB Grins.. I know I don't with you; that other guy needed some illumination. I think the country is currently in political turmoil. The idea of impeachment, or some type of censure (whatever form it takes), would push increased accountability and transparency of government. It seems like each indictment and resignation (with corresponding medal of honor -- chuckles) gets us a little closer to forcing the administration to clean up its act. On the other hand, I may be very naive to think so. Hey, I know impeachment won't happen, but I can dream! > "Stephen Tontoni" <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in message news:tontoni- > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But you'd damn well grind the country to a stop and set it in poltical > turmoil to enjoy your pound of flesh, wouldn't you? Hmmm, seemed like it was a good enough ploy for your guys. Nice double-standard, hypocite. E.P. >> "Stephen Tontoni" <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in message news:tontoni- >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > E.P. Unless I've told you so, and I don't believe I have - you really don't know where I stand on the issue of Clinton's impeachment now do you - jackass. *plonk* - you can sit it out with the rest the gadflies WmB > >> "Stephen Tontoni" <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in message news:tontoni- > >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > *plonk* - you can sit it out with the rest the gadflies Killfiled by another anonymous e-tard. How will I get over it? LOL. E.P. >> >> "Stephen Tontoni" <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in message news:tontoni- >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > E.P. Remember guys........Opinions are like arseholes (Or a.sholes)........everyone has got one........now back to modelling ! Regards Simon > Remember guys........Opinions are like arseholes (Or > a.sholes)........everyone has got one........now back to modelling ! That's right! And everyone ~else's~ stinks to high heaven. Mine smells like roses.... Back to my modeling shack. > > Remember guys........Opinions are like arseholes (Or > > a.sholes)........everyone has got one........now back to modelling ! > > That's right! And everyone ~else's~ stinks to high heaven. > Mine smells like roses.... > Back to my modeling shack. Laughing... yep, and like I heard some comedian say, "everyone ELSE on the highway using a cell phone is a moron..." All perspective. Stephen Tontoni <tontoni@comcast.net> wrote in news:tontoni- 6B8FFF.01532206052006@comcast.dca.giganews.com: > Such as Rush Limbaugh? Why was Dubya's powdery and alcoholic past > skimmed over in both elections? It's interesting stuff. Because he cleaned himself up and didn't kill a mistress by leaving her to drown in a car which he drove off the road and then failed to inform anyone. I can accept a man who admits his mistakes and cleans himself up. Hypocrits who get held to a lesser standard and don't clean themselves up I have no time for. > Such as Rush Limbaugh? Why was Dubya's powdery and alcoholic past > skimmed over in both elections? It's interesting stuff. The point is that it was the "past". Within the Kennedy Cult, the Evil Overlords (or are they class-warfare-egging-on spoiled brats? I forget which...) are allowed to get away with such in the "present". For example, our own (Texas) Senator Phil Gramm was endlessly slammed for his cameo appearance in the movie "Gods and Generals"...yet (Democrat)Sen. Robert Byrd was not even mentioned, even though he had a cameo as a Confederate general. SignatureGreg Heilers Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.2 (2.6.13) AUS ..... He gets it from your side of the family, you know. No monsters on my side. -- Homer Simpson Treehouse of Horror II It seems to me that each side thnks their guy is picked on, while the other side's guy is given free passes. I'd point out all of the nonsense made over Clinton's past dope smoking, while Bush's far more serious (IMHO) alleged experimentation with cocaine and alcohol problems were glossed over. I heard the National Public Radio News Director being interviewed one day, and he remarked that each side likes to hear their own views reflected back at them, and when they hear something that could be perceived as from the other side's point of view, they are offended and label the news story as biased. He said he gets equal complaints of bias from both Conservatives and Liberals, so he figures NPR is doing a pretty good job. I found that interesting, as most of my conservative co-workers say NPR is liberally slanted while I tend to think they are pretty evenhanded. I just wish Liberals had as much representation in the commercial news as Conservatives. What most Conservatives describe as "liberal" in the network news I think is middle to slightly conservative, just not as far right wing as they are. It all boils down to "liberal or conservative compared to what?" Scott Wilson > The point is that it was the "past". Within the Kennedy > Cult, the Evil Overlords (or are they class-warfare-egging-on > spoiled brats? I forget which...) are allowed to get away > with such in the "present". > It seems to me that each side thnks their guy is picked on, while the > other side's guy is given free passes. I'd point out all of the > nonsense made over Clinton's past dope smoking, while Bush's far more > serious (IMHO) alleged experimentation with cocaine and alcohol > problems were glossed over. Nice try. Bush admitted his problems and cleaned his act up. According to Clinton, he never inhaled. Nor did he have sex with that women, depending on the meaning of "is". Clinton acts like any junkie caught with his pants down. Bush owned up and didn't lie. Wow absolutely 100% equivalent, no difference at all. Uh-huh. > I heard the National Public Radio News Director being interviewed one > day, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> spoiled brats? I forget which...) are allowed to get away with such >> in the "present". >It seems to me that each side thnks their guy is picked on, while the other >side's guy is given free passes. I'd point out all of the nonsense made >over Clinton's past dope smoking, while Bush's far more serious (IMHO) >alleged experimentation with cocaine and alcohol problems were glossed over. Well, that's really 'fair and balanced'... >I just wish Liberals had as much representation in the commercial news as Conservatives. ROFLMAO! The news anchors on CNN, ABC, NBC, and See BS are *conservatives*??? Click your heels together three times, Dorothy - you need to go back to Kansas... > What most Conservatives describe as "liberal" in the network news I think >is middle to slightly conservative, just not as far right wing as they are. >It all boils down to "liberal or conservative compared to what?" Middle-of-the-road Americans, that's who. You know, I don't _care_ if the big shots of the MSM are liberals or not. What bugs me is that they won't admit it. It's as if they were ashamed of their political leanings. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." |
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