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William H. Shuey - 18 May 2006 21:39 GMT Hi Troops:
I am having some small glitches with my computer and I suspect they are due to small bits of previously removed programs remaining in the registry. I was in Office Depot yesterday and noticed a couple of programs for supposedly servicing Windows and cleaning up registry problems. Has anyone on here ever had occasion to use such a program or have any experience with them?
Bill Shuey
RobG - 18 May 2006 22:46 GMT Bill, Yes, I have. Most of them work well, the only caveat being that they (generally) need to be installed before you start installing/removing other programs - this is to enable them to see what is going where, so that they can make sure that all the bits of the other programs are removed correctly. So, this may not help you at this time.
I assume you're using one of Windows many variatons? Windows is a real bugger for dropping bits of code anywhere and everywhere and then conveniently forgetting to remove them, even in its latest XP variation (and I actually don't mind XP - my system has been very stable since I started using it). I have developed the habit of backing-up everything I need to save that I don't have copies of (documents, pix, downloaded programs etc) then nukeing the HDD every so often and re-installing everything clean - this is a hang-over from the bad old Win98 days (c: I used to need to do it every 6 months or so with 98, but XP seems to be a bit better at housekeeping. It's coming due though.
If you have the skill and time, then vape the HDD and start anew - bestest way. If you want to use one of those programs, then do a bit of research - the software may have developed to the point where it can clean bits of code up without needing to know where it came from. Start with the publisher's websites and go from there.
Best of luck
RobG (The Aussie One)
Rob van Riel - 19 May 2006 12:22 GMT > If you have the skill and time, then vape the HDD and start anew - bestest > way. If you want to use one of those programs, then do a bit of research - > the software may have developed to the point where it can clean bits of > code up without needing to know where it came from. Start with the > publisher's websites and go from there. I'd have to agree with that. While you're at it, devide the harddisk into at least two partitions, one for programs, one for data, and when reinstalling the lot, make sure the default paths to all sorts of data point to the data partition. Makes it so much easier to do a wipe and rebuild next time round.
Rob
e - 18 May 2006 23:46 GMT >Hi Troops: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bill Shuey google up yourself a freebie. i use fix-it tools, but that was a xmas present. there are many free programs. just be carefull, rtfm and ask if you're not sure.
Count DeMoney - 19 May 2006 01:08 GMT I would highly recommend the Spy Sweeper / Windows Washer combination. You can usually get them at BestBuy or CompUSA for around $10 after the usual rebates. These two, used together, will make a major difference in your computers performance and really clean up your registry and all those fragments from deleted programs or internet activity.
Ron Smith - 19 May 2006 06:14 GMT Norton Systemworks Pro is pretty good but expensive, also redundant in some features if you have other Norton stuff installed already. The first time you run it's registry fix it takes awhie, it checks all the garbage in there against what you have installed.
> I would highly recommend the Spy Sweeper / Windows Washer combination. > You can usually get them at BestBuy or CompUSA for around $10 after the > usual rebates. These two, used together, will make a major difference > in your computers performance and really clean up your registry and all > those fragments from deleted programs or internet activity. robbelothe@aol.com - 19 May 2006 03:29 GMT Try Registry Mechanic. You can check it out at http://www.komando.com/nl_02182006.asp. It's recommended by Kim Komando. She has a nationally syndicated computer call-in show on radio.
Ed R.
> Hi Troops: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bill Shuey Ultan Rooney - 19 May 2006 06:15 GMT > Try Registry Mechanic. You can check it out at > http://www.komando.com/nl_02182006.asp. It's recommended by Kim > Komando. She has a nationally syndicated computer call-in show on > radio. > > Ed R. I have Registry Mechanic and it works well.
Cheers Ultan
Gray Ghost - 19 May 2006 03:45 GMT > Hi Troops: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Bill Shuey FWIW. I'm a gear head from way back. Always carried the Norton Utilities with me. have the most recent version on my WinXP. Windoctor generally does a pretty decent job, plus the other utilities (maintenance and security utilities) are pretty decent.
A little pricy in some combos but there are several mix and match packages. Got to Symantec.com and have a look. You can buy it online and download immediately. That's how I do it (I do upgrades this way.)
Frank
Bruce Burden - 19 May 2006 04:14 GMT : I am having some small glitches with my computer and I suspect they are : due to small bits of previously removed programs remaining in the : registry. I find that FORMAT C: is an excellent tool for removing the windows virus and all of the remora that lodge within the main windows virus. :-)
Bruce
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RobG - 19 May 2006 08:54 GMT >: I am having some small glitches with my computer and I suspect >: they are [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bruce GO THE PENGUIN!!
RobG (The Aussie One)
Bruce Burden - 20 May 2006 03:43 GMT : GO THE PENGUIN!! Yeah... Been there, didn't like it. Don't see what the hype is about.
Now, if Apple manages to make the correct decision, I'd be happy to dump both the penguin and windoze from my laptop and install o'sucks on it. Whether the sky capitan can make that decision, however, remains to be seen. After all, he screwed up 20 years ago when he make Macs completely closed...
Bruce
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e - 20 May 2006 04:08 GMT >: GO THE PENGUIN!! >: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bruce i heard mac is going to use intel pentiums. any truth?
Charles Metz - 20 May 2006 04:11 GMT > i heard mac is going to use intel pentiums. any truth? Their CPUs aren't called "Pentiums," but several Intel-powered Macs laptops and desktops have been available for about a month.
Charles Metz
e - 20 May 2006 06:08 GMT >> i heard mac is going to use intel pentiums. any truth? > >Their CPUs aren't called "Pentiums," but several Intel-powered Macs >laptops and desktops have been available for about a month. > >Charles Metz but they use the 086 architecture?
Charles Metz - 20 May 2006 07:13 GMT >>>i heard mac is going to use intel pentiums. any truth? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > but they use the 086 architecture? No; this chips are actually pretty much like Pentiums and will run both Windows and the latest version of Macintosh OS X in native mode (i.e., without emulation), though not simultaneously. Most Intel-powered Macs come with dual-core CPUs (essentially two CPUs on one chip), but a few of the entry-level machines have only single CPUs.
Charlie
e - 20 May 2006 15:14 GMT >> In article <446E88E4.1030305@uchicago.edu>, Charles Metz >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Charlie pentiums are the 086 series, i have read. a logical progression that stated with a 44 mhz chip/
Charles Metz - 23 May 2006 04:21 GMT >>>In article <446E88E4.1030305@uchicago.edu>, Charles Metz >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > pentiums are the 086 series, i have read. a logical > progression that stated with a 44 mhz chip/ My apologies for the brain cramp. When you mentioned "086 architecture" I jumped to the conclusion that you were referring to the Motorola 68000-series CPUs that powered early Macs. Usually I *do* know the difference.
Charles Metz
e - 23 May 2006 05:38 GMT >> In article <446EB379.1040303@uchicago.edu>, Charles Metz >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Charles Metz yeah, well, sometimes my brain isn't so great...
Harro de Jong - 23 May 2006 07:57 GMT someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <jvFbg.166652$OZ2.2933 @fe01.news.easynews.com>:
>pentiums are the 086 series, i have read. a logical >progression that stated with a 44 mhz chip/ It started with the 8086, an 8-bit processor running at 4.77 MHz.
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Bruce Apple - 23 May 2006 10:54 GMT > someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <jvFbg.166652$OZ2.2933 > @fe01.news.easynews.com>: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yikes.... shades of PC XT with a hot running NEC V20 chip which ran at a > blistering 12 MHz in Turbo mode. Next week, Holerith Cards, and documation air riff readers made here in Scenic Melbourne Florida. BA
e - 23 May 2006 14:46 GMT >> someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <jvFbg.166652$OZ2.2933 >> @fe01.news.easynews.com>: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Scenic Melbourne Florida. >BA i had a 286 daughter board on my xt and everyone was green with envy.
e - 23 May 2006 14:45 GMT >someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <jvFbg.166652$OZ2.2933 >@fe01.news.easynews.com>: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >It started with the 8086, an 8-bit processor running at 4.77 MHz. i read that intel started with a 44 mhz cpu. it was used on that home built pc and others. it is still around on servos and such. the 88mhz was in the first ibm xt. it had 256 k ram, 2 360 k floppys and a b&w video card. it cost $5000. the first ibm hd was 10 megs and cost $2500. i still have a pair of that set. when i started doing repairs, i offered an upgrade without a card from 256 to 640k ram using a pal chip and 256-20 dram chips. it cost $700 and i couldn't keep up. i made $350 on each. ah, the good old days.
Harro de Jong - 23 May 2006 14:56 GMT someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <5mEcg.10362$lk7.5747 @fe04.news.easynews.com>:
> read that intel started with a 44 mhz cpu. it was used on >that home built pc and others. it is still around on servos >and such. >the 88mhz was in the first ibm xt. Sorry, but those numbers are off.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8086>
The first Intel microprocessor was the 4004, introduced in 1971.
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e - 23 May 2006 17:34 GMT >someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <5mEcg.10362$lk7.5747 >@fe04.news.easynews.com>: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >The first Intel microprocessor was the 4004, introduced in 1971. cool. does not surprise me. thaty 4004 must have been a screamer!
z - 23 May 2006 18:56 GMT > >someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <5mEcg.10362$lk7.5747 > >@fe04.news.easynews.com>: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > cool. does not surprise me. > thaty 4004 must have been a screamer! If it's not Z-80 it's CRAP!!!
e - 23 May 2006 21:28 GMT >> In article <97CCA1B28Wile.E.Coyote@62.58.50.216>, >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >If it's not Z-80 it's CRAP!!! string and beads, baby
Gary R. Schmidt - 24 May 2006 13:21 GMT >>someone@some.domain (e) wrote in <jvFbg.166652$OZ2.2933 >>@fe01.news.easynews.com>: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > i read that intel started with a 44 mhz cpu. it was used on No 4.77MHz.
> that home built pc and others. it is still around on servos > and such. > the 88mhz was in the first ibm xt. it had 256 k ram, 2 360 k No, still 4.77MHz. But an 8086, not an 8088.
> floppys and a b&w video card. it cost $5000. the first ibm > hd was 10 megs and cost $2500. Hmmm, My memory says 5Megabytes, but I'll not swear to it. .
> i still have a pair of that set. when i started doing > repairs, i offered an upgrade without a card from 256 to > 640k ram using a pal chip and 256-20 dram chips. it cost > $700 and i couldn't keep up. i made $350 on each. > ah, the good old days. Cheers, Gary B-)
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e - 24 May 2006 14:27 GMT >> In article <97CC5A78FWile.E.Coyote@62.58.50.216>, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> i read that intel started with a 44 mhz cpu. it was used on >No 4.77MHz. the 8088 ran at 4.7 mhz
>> that home built pc and others. it is still around on servos >> and such. >> the 88mhz was in the first ibm xt. it had 256 k ram, 2 360 k >No, still 4.77MHz. But an 8086, not an 8088. please do your homework.
>> floppys and a b&w video card. it cost $5000. the first ibm >> hd was 10 megs and cost $2500. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Cheers, > Gary B-) look at the site in an earlier post. you've mixed things up.
Gary R. Schmidt - 25 May 2006 14:19 GMT >>>In article <97CC5A78FWile.E.Coyote@62.58.50.216>, >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > look at the site in an earlier post. you've mixed things up. Yes.
But not as badly as you did - 44mhz indeed! :-)
My excuse is that I didn't leave the 32-bit world of Motorola and DEC (well, 16- and 32-bits, PDP-11s and VAXen), and others, for the twilight zone of the peecee until the PC-AT, which used an 80286 running at 6MHz. (Just to cover myself - they were HP Vectras and various others, not necessarily true IBM PC-ATs, but I'm sure that the 80296 CPU clocked at 6MHz, my later Epson AX ran at 6/8/10MHz.)
Cheers, Gary B-)
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e - 25 May 2006 17:58 GMT >> In article <6nvdk3-icj.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>, "Gary R. Schmidt" >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >But not as badly as you did - 44mhz indeed! :-) good catch. read once, misquote twice.
>My excuse is that I didn't leave the 32-bit world of Motorola and DEC >(well, 16- and 32-bits, PDP-11s and VAXen), and others, for the twilight [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Cheers, > Gary B-) e - 25 May 2006 18:00 GMT >> In article <6nvdk3-icj.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au>, "Gary R. Schmidt" >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Cheers, > Gary B-) btw, ibm made a 186 cpu in the old xt style case. they are rare so i've saved the only one i could find. still on the 8 bit bus but it screams compared to the 8088. i also still have the 286 daughter board and a nec v-30. and a 20 mhz 286....no wonder my house is sinking.
Gary R. Schmidt - 26 May 2006 14:31 GMT [SNIP]
> btw, ibm made a 186 cpu in the old xt style case. they are > rare so i've saved the only one i could find. still on the 8 > bit bus but it screams compared to the 8088. Weird, I can't recall seeing the '186 in anything other than instrument controllers, terminal concentrators, muxes and the like, out here in Oz. But, as I said, I didn't enter the peecee world until about 1986. I can remember using 4004s and 8008s as micro-controllers in various things, but the world of peecees and DOS was quite a shock.
> i also still have the 286 daughter board and a nec v-30. > and a 20 mhz 286....no wonder my house is sinking. I managed to lose all of my stuff from the 80s and earlier, thankfully. I mean, who has a 9-track tape drive these days, and as for an 8-inch floppy?!?!?!?! I still have a couple of 5-1/4 inch drives in the junk box, and a bus-mouse and card. Far too many 2400bps modems, and 14.4K and a couple of 33Ks and a couple of 56Ks. And a 33MHz '486, as well as a 133MHz '486 (either Cyrix or AMD, can't recall (probably neither)). And sound cards... And EGA/VGA graphics cards...
One day I'll throw the lot out - probably to make space for the junk in the current generation of boxes. :->
Cheers, Gary B-)
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e - 26 May 2006 15:58 GMT >[SNIP] >> btw, ibm made a 186 cpu in the old xt style case. they are [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Cheers, > Gary B-) i have an amd 486-120 that smoked the first pentiums. all the way up to the p-133. i still have a dual 5 1/4-3 1/2 floppy for old games. i got rid of most of the daughter boards in 2000, i sold them to a guy starting a repair biz. kinda felt guilty for taking his money, but he refused to learn. didn't last long. the 186 ran ok, it would do 16 nit functions then run on an 8 bit bus. it may have been as fast as 12mhz. i remember putting a 2 meg ram card in it. i had kind of an elaborate boot sequence because of my diagnostic software. coolset software was the directory sorter micheal mefford had. cooledit? i have it on a floppy somewhere. i still love hardware, hate software problems. but i will NEVER do pc's for money again.
Charles Metz - 20 May 2006 07:16 GMT >>>i heard mac is going to use intel pentiums. any truth? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > but they use the 086 architecture? No; Mac Intel chips are actually pretty much like Pentiums and will run both Windows and the latest version of Macintosh OS X in native mode (i.e., without emulation), though not simultaneously. Most Intel-powered Macs come with dual-core CPUs (essentially two CPUs on one chip), but a few of the entry-level machines have only single CPUs.
Charles Metz
Harro de Jong - 20 May 2006 13:20 GMT > but they use the 086 architecture? Yes. The latest 'Core Duo' chips. <www.apple.com>
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e - 20 May 2006 15:16 GMT >> but they use the 086 architecture? > >Yes. The latest 'Core Duo' chips. ><www.apple.com> thanks, i knew it was. the only non 086 intel makes are for other controls, i believe.
Kevin M. Vernon - 19 May 2006 19:04 GMT -snip-
> I find that FORMAT C: is an excellent tool for removing > the windows virus and all of the remora that lodge within > the main windows virus. :-) > > Bruce -snip-
Problem with that, Bruce, is then you want to install that Mac Virus, with it's heaping helping of Macitude & it's Secret crashes & it's secret viruses & all the secret stuff the Apple Gestapo doesn't want anyone to know about their over-rated, over priced toybox.
*smirk*
-Kevin
RobG - 19 May 2006 22:05 GMT Are you by chance a microshaft shareholder?
After getting rid of the windows virus, you then have ample space to install a perfectly able OS - any of the Linux distros will do.
RobG (The Aussie One)
e - 19 May 2006 22:46 GMT >Are you by chance a microshaft shareholder? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >RobG >(The Aussie One) yeah, yeah and you wear a belt and suspenders. on your socks. some people just don't care for all the kernel junk and somewhat arcane structure. make the install seamless with hardware alterations automatically fixed and make ALL the music, video and odd apps i use 100% compatible with zero effort on my part without having to recompile every time i make a change and maybe....... this is strictly fun for me, i have zero business or work garbage on my pc's. linux is not fun. and it's funny looking. i leaned pc's in 1990, a real latecomer. but i stayed up all night to study.
William H. Shuey - 19 May 2006 19:06 GMT > I find that FORMAT C: is an excellent tool for removing > the windows virus and all of the remora that lodge within > the main windows virus. :-) > > Bruce Wise Guy!! I take it you are not using Windows!
Bill Shuey
Bruce Burden - 20 May 2006 03:52 GMT : Wise Guy!! I take it you are not using Windows! Unfortunately, the company I work for insists that I work with one. The sorry fact is, the work I do on the PC is for a OS that makes windoze a cake walk.
And, I left it on my laptop. There are times that I need exploder to view a site (damn front page script kiddies!) or be home from working. Errr, WORKing from HOME. Yeah, that what I mean. And working on documents with - gack, word.
Really, my biggest complaint with windoze is the constant "ability to innovate" that comes from Redmond. If only they would...
Bruce
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Mad-Modeller - 20 May 2006 05:06 GMT > : Wise Guy!! I take it you are not using Windows! > : [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Bruce Now I have a Word question. I'm working on an index and the program seems to have a cow about the spelling of some people's names. They don't show on printouts but on the screen I have a gazillion irritating underlines. Is there a switch to kill that?
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
willshak - 20 May 2006 12:06 GMT > >> : [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > Since Word or any other document program does not know the difference between a name and a misspelled word, only that the string of 0s and 1s doesn't match a string of 0s and 1s in their dictionary, there is only one way to eliminate the underlines. Uncheck the 'check spelling as I type', or some such option in tools. I had MS Word, but don't anymore, so I can't look it up. In Wordperfect, it is called "Spell as you go" under Tools - Proofread. This will eliminate all underlines on all misspelled words or names in the document as you type, but they will show up if you use the check spelling or when you close the document and are told there are misspelled words.
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RobG - 20 May 2006 13:11 GMT Or... del c:\word That'll switch it off permanantly. (c:
The other option is to add the names to the dictionary - don't ask me how, I don't use Word. But I'm sure it can be done - most real word processors.... oh, hang on a sec.. Anyway, it may or may not be able to be done - have a look in the help file. A bit of a bugger though if you only use the names once.
RobG (The Aussie One)
Richard Brooks - 20 May 2006 14:03 GMT > Or... del c:\word That'll switch it off permanantly. (c: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > RobG > (The Aussie One) It is possible as I had to go through all this routine with plant names when writing articles for a garden planning CD-ROM. It saved the boss lots of time checking other works that were sent to him.
Heh! There might even be a scale models dictionary.
Richard.
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Mad-Modeller - 21 May 2006 03:03 GMT > Or... del c:\word That'll switch it off permanantly. (c: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > RobG > (The Aussie One) The Help file? I'd rather chew my nails off than use that greatly mis-named (MS-named?) POS. I'm not that masochistic. ;] Funny but the old word processor program on my other computer is way ahead of Word. I'm beginning to think someone reversed Gates' polarity at some point.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
e - 21 May 2006 04:04 GMT >> Or... del c:\word That'll switch it off permanantly. (c: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. you mean mr buy a os and rub the serial numbers off and claim it's mine?
Mad-Modeller - 21 May 2006 05:03 GMT > you mean mr buy a os and rub the serial numbers off and > claim it's mine? Buy? I was told that he illicitly obtained said OS. Probably why he's so big on security for his programs - not operational security, but copying security. I just love those little messages incorporated in Scandisc. If the d--n system had let me close it down correctly I wouldn't be seeing this! Makes one want to reach for a hammer.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
e - 21 May 2006 05:27 GMT >> you mean mr buy a os and rub the serial numbers off and >> claim it's mine? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. why he "bought" dos 86. wanna meet the lawyers to prove it?
Richard Brooks - 20 May 2006 13:23 GMT [snipped]
> Now I have a Word question. I'm working on an index and the program > seems to have a cow about the spelling of some people's names. They > don't show on printouts but on the screen I have a gazillion irritating > underlines. Is there a switch to kill that? You could always add the names to your very own dictionary!
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robbelothe@aol.com - 20 May 2006 13:53 GMT Bill,
I'm using Office 2003 but I suppose it will work on an older version as well. Go to the TOOLS button on your menu at the top of the Word document. Select OPTIONS (at the bottom of the drop down menu). Select the SPELLING & GRAMMAR tab. Uncheck the CHECK SPELLING AS YOU TYPE. That should do it.
Ed R.
Jeff_from_Canada - 20 May 2006 21:12 GMT > Now I have a Word question. I'm working on an index and the program > seems to have a cow about the spelling of some people's names. They > don't show on printouts but on the screen I have a gazillion irritating > underlines. Is there a switch to kill that? > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. from MS Online help....
You can show or hide the wavy underlines that appear when you automatically check spelling and grammar, or when you automatically check formatting consistency.
Spelling and grammar
On the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the Spelling & Grammar tab. Make sure the Check spelling as you type and/or Check grammar as you type check boxes are selected. Select or clear the Hide spelling errors in this document or Hide grammatical errors in this document check box. Formatting consistency
On the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the Edit tab. Select or clear the Mark formatting inconsistencies check box.
Mad-Modeller - 21 May 2006 03:09 GMT Thanks, everybody. I saved your ideas and will give them a try when I get back to the index.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Greg Heilers - 21 May 2006 06:27 GMT kiddies!) or be home from working. Errr, WORKing from HOME.
>> Bruce > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. In all honesty...take the plunge and learn TeX/LaTeX. A steep learning curve, at first...but once you get the hang of it, you will ask "Why would *anyone* ever want to use a word processor program?!".
And it is really fun to dive into it, and learn it.
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Harro de Jong - 21 May 2006 09:13 GMT > In all honesty...take the plunge and learn TeX/LaTeX. > A steep learning curve, at first...but once you get the hang of > it, you will ask "Why would *anyone* ever want to use a > word processor program?!". (shudder) Steep learning curve is an understatement. Those are entirely unsuitable for many users' needs. If you want something easier to use/less frustrating than Word, go for AppleWorks or Pages. FrameMaker would do as well, but that's quite expensive and has a bit of a learning curve (but it's far less arcane than TeX).
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RobG - 21 May 2006 11:32 GMT >> In all honesty...take the plunge and learn TeX/LaTeX. >> A steep learning curve, at first...but once you get the hang of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > expensive and has a bit of a learning curve (but it's far less arcane > than TeX). And for the cheapskates amongst us, have a look at OpenOffice - I've been using it for a while and quite like it.
RobG (The Aussie One)
Bruce Burden - 23 May 2006 04:42 GMT :> In all honesty...take the plunge and learn TeX/LaTeX. :> A steep learning curve, at first...but once you get the hang of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : (shudder) Steep learning curve is an understatement. Those are entirely : unsuitable for many users' needs. I have heard TeX/LaTeX is a derivative of ROFF/TROFF? That being the case, I'll take a good word processor anytime. I used roff/troff way too many times to enjoy the "wet, lather, rinse, repeat" method of determing where to place page breaks.
: If you want something easier to use/less frustrating than Word, go for : AppleWorks or Pages. FrameMaker would do as well, but that's quite : expensive and has a bit of a learning curve (but it's far less arcane : than TeX). I really, really like FrameMaker. Yeah, its a bitch to learn, but it _DOES_ things. Like, break tables to fit page breaks, automatically put table headings at the top of any table that breaks over a page, changing a paragraph type actually changes ALL of the paragraphs already existing in the document. And, all this plus no "auto foul-up", err, _format_ "feature".
Bruce
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Stephen Tontoni - 20 May 2006 03:54 GMT > > I find that FORMAT C: is an excellent tool for removing > > the windows virus and all of the remora that lodge within [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bill Shuey Go to http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/ and if you're drinking a carbonated beverage, but it down. That stuff really burns going through the nose!
--- Stephen
Greg Heilers - 21 May 2006 06:24 GMT > : I am having some small glitches with my computer and I suspect they are > : due to small bits of previously removed programs remaining in the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bruce Bruce, is the "all-powerful" fdisk still part of the inner workings of Windows? Or a Windows equivalent of something along the lines of "rm -rf /*"; which will certainly remove any and all nasties on a Windows partition?
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kim - 19 May 2006 05:09 GMT > Hi Troops: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > problems. Has anyone on here ever had occasion to use such a program or > have any experience with them? All such programs have a nasty habit of removing shared DLL files along with unwanted entries and crashing the PC.
My personal experience suggests the slight gain in PC performance is not worth the drastic loss of reliability and data which often ensues.
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guardian6@comcast.net - 19 May 2006 17:16 GMT > > Hi Troops: > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > My personal experience suggests the slight gain in PC performance is not > worth the drastic loss of reliability and data which often ensues. I've been using PCs heavily from DOS 1.0 onwards and have encountered that problem only one time. Along the years I've used multiple types of tools for registry cleanups and have always liked the Norton tools the best.
Many of the so-called Windows registry problems are actually from programs that are not fully Windows-compatible, which covers a lot of shareware-type programs. Many program installers are buggy and will leave you with multiple DLL handles in the registry, and some will install earlier versions of a DLL. You can back up DLLs and the registry files prior to doing a registry cleanup if you are worried about DLL issues. You can also go in and edit the registry files yourself if you know what you are doing.
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z - 22 May 2006 19:15 GMT > Hi Troops: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bill Shuey I've tried a couple of these programs, freeware/demos, that can search your hard drive for programs/files etc. that should match the registry entries, then comes back with a list of dangling registry entries for you to OK so it can delete them. They worked fine, and kept finding things; lots of temp files and stuff seem to end up listed in the registry. Weird. Anyway, the other side is that they didn't fix/improve anything either. I hate the registry. It's the symbol of everything that's wrong with Windows/microsoft.
Count DeMoney - 22 May 2006 19:33 GMT Webroot's Windows Washer actually works. I tried them all including Norton, VCom, Etc.
e - 22 May 2006 20:52 GMT >Webroot's Windows Washer actually works. I tried them all including >Norton, VCom, Etc. and you can get it from fosi. http://fosi.ural.net/ that is the full program.
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