Removing Chrome
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Jim - 23 May 2006 06:05 GMT Hello all - I received the help call that's printed below from a friend. Basically it says it all including the fact that it probably isn't our common out of the bottle or spray can chrome paint.
[[any idea on how to remove chrome paint? Actually I think it is electroplated on? Tried EasyOff oven cleaner and even laquer thinner on this diecast metal fuselage but no luck!]]
Any thoughts or hints appreciated.
Cheers and thanks. Jim.
Flying Frog - 23 May 2006 06:55 GMT Le 23/05/2006, Jim a supposé :
> Hello all - I received the help call that's printed below from a friend. > Basically it says it all including the fact that it probably isn't our common [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cheers and thanks. Jim. Hi Jim,
To remove the chrome it is necessary to soak parts some minutes in some bleach. It is really very simple.
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Jim - 23 May 2006 13:39 GMT > To remove the chrome it is necessary to soak parts some minutes in some > bleach. It is really very simple. ****** Great. I've passed your method along and he'll try it tonight when he gets home from work.
Thank you very much - Merci - cheers - Jim.
Don McIntyre - 23 May 2006 14:41 GMT You could also try soaking the parts in Brake Fluid. Using bleach, you may need to let sit overnight, scrub the parts with a toothbrush, then soak again, repeat as required.
Flying Frog - 23 May 2006 14:50 GMT Don McIntyre vient de nous annoncer :
> You could also try soaking the parts in Brake Fluid. > Using bleach, you may need to let sit overnight, scrub the parts with a > toothbrush, then soak again, repeat as required. No Don, only 5 minutes to remove chrome with good quality (and pure) bleach... and toothbrush isn't necessary... Did you try that solution?
Brake Fluid is better for paints... but there is even better: the liquid based of caustic soda used to uncork channeling in houses, but attention, it is a very dangerous product (except for models)...
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Jim - 23 May 2006 14:55 GMT > You could also try soaking the parts in Brake Fluid. > Using bleach, you may need to let sit overnight, scrub the parts with a > toothbrush, then soak again, repeat as required. ******* Good thoughts Don - thank you. I've passed your suggestion along. Too bad we have to wait until tonight or longer to get the results back.
Cheers - Jim.
Flying Frog - 23 May 2006 14:46 GMT Jim a formulé ce mardi :
>> To remove the chrome it is necessary to soak parts some minutes in some >> bleach. It is really very simple. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thank you very much - Merci - cheers - Jim. You're welcome Jim. You will see, my solution works very well. Notice: You have to use the bleach pure, not diluted and the chrome is removed very quickly. 5 minutes are the good time generally. Naturally, you have to perfectly clean and rinse your parts after that.
Cheers
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Jim - 23 May 2006 14:57 GMT > You're welcome Jim. You will see, my solution works very well. Notice: > You have to use the bleach pure, not diluted and the chrome is removed > very quickly. 5 minutes are the good time generally. Naturally, you have > to perfectly clean and rinse your parts after that. ******* Got it. I've already sent your update information to Peter. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
Many thanks. cheers - Jim.
Flying Frog - 23 May 2006 15:58 GMT Jim avait soumis l'idée :
>> You're welcome Jim. You will see, my solution works very well. Notice: You >> have to use the bleach pure, not diluted and the chrome is removed very [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Many thanks. cheers - Jim. Oops, sorry Jim. I just read the thread again, and I hadn't saw it was about can chrome... I thought it was about plate chrome as you can find it on parts in the boxes. Arghhh my bad English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For paints or chrome from can, use the liquid based of caustic soda used to uncork channeling in houses. It works great, but that's dangerous for eyes and hands... So take care...
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Jim - 23 May 2006 16:34 GMT > Oops, sorry Jim. I just read the thread again, and I hadn't saw it was > about can chrome... I thought it was about plate chrome as you can find [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > used to uncork channeling in houses. It works great, but that's > dangerous for eyes and hands... So take care... ******* Ok. Peter will probably try all methods until one works or nothing works. All good ideas though. In reality I'm not even sure it is 'chrome' from a can. It may be electroplate or some other commercial method of producing a metal finish on a die-cast metal body. Hmmmmmmm?
Thanks much again. cheers - Jim.
Flying Frog - 23 May 2006 17:29 GMT > ******* Ok. Peter will probably try all methods until one works or nothing > works. All good ideas though. In reality I'm not even sure it is 'chrome' > from a can. It may be electroplate or some other commercial method of > producing a metal finish on a die-cast metal body. Hmmmmmmm? > > Thanks much again. cheers - Jim. For electrplate, bleach is the only non destructive and very quick method I know... Good luck to your friend ;o)
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Stephen Tontoni - 23 May 2006 23:38 GMT > > Oops, sorry Jim. I just read the thread again, and I hadn't saw it was > > about can chrome... I thought it was about plate chrome as you can find [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks much again. cheers - Jim. Many of the paint applications on die-cast may be baked on or some sort of lacquer that is more resistant to chemical removal. Depending on that, you (or your friend) may be better off sanding the metal finish smooth and simply priming over it.
I have a similar situation with a Burago car that I thought would be fun to strip and paint. Solvents won't touch the finish, so I'll have to sand it down, then prime over that. Some day!
--- Stephen
Jim - 23 May 2006 23:51 GMT > Many of the paint applications on die-cast may be baked on or some sort > of lacquer that is more resistant to chemical removal. Depending on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to strip and paint. Solvents won't touch the finish, so I'll have to > sand it down, then prime over that. Some day! ******* Oh oh! That's a distinct possibility - I haven't seen the beast in question but it's beginning to sound like your Burago. I'll forward your comments and we'll see what happens. I'll ask him if sanding is possible in this instance or is there some consideration preventing such an action. We'll see. Cheers and thank you for the input. Jim.
Al Superczynski - 26 May 2006 03:44 GMT >Many of the paint applications on die-cast may be baked on or some sort >of lacquer that is more resistant to chemical removal. Aircraft stripper will *nuke* _any_ paint finish on a diecast. But it's nasty stuff so pay close attention to all the precautions on the label.
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Stephen Tontoni - 26 May 2006 05:47 GMT > >Many of the paint applications on die-cast may be baked on or some sort > >of lacquer that is more resistant to chemical removal. > > Aircraft stripper will *nuke* _any_ paint finish on a diecast. > But it's nasty stuff so pay close attention to all the precautions on > the label. Good call Al; I regularly google MSDS's on stuff that I'm not familiar with. You can also ask for the MSDS when you buy it; an industrial supply will have it but the local Wal-Mart or whatever may not. To our non-US friends, the MSDS is a Material Safety Data Sheet, courtesy of OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration).
Whatever the chemical or product is, if it's available in the US, you can probably find an MSDS on it, and the information is GOLDEN. Learn how to use these solvents safely etc etc etc. It appears that aircraft stripper can contain methylene chloride, although it may not. In any case, here's the MSDS on it (a good example):
http://www.denison.edu/sec-safe/safety/msds/methylen.html
--- Stephen
Don Stauffer - 26 May 2006 15:19 GMT I've had good luck painting directly over chrome (actually aluminum). I use Krylon primer that has a pretty good tooth. It works fine, and you can then paint enamel over the Krylon.
BTW, first tried Krylon primer over a decade ago 'cause it was touted so much on this group. Used it ever since.
Peter W. - 24 May 2006 07:09 GMT For additional info check few more therads:
http://tinyurl.com/ker2n http://tinyurl.com/e8zug
And if you search r.m.s. for "removing chrome" I'm sure you'll find even more info.
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Jim - 25 May 2006 05:11 GMT > For additional info check few more therads: > http://tinyurl.com/ker2n > http://tinyurl.com/e8zug ******* Very, very interesting for sure. Thanks Peter.
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