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Model Forum / General / Models / June 2006Europe-1 Camouflage
The AirDoc F-4 decal sheet instructions claim that the Europe-1 camouflage is simply SEA camouflage with the Tan 30219 replaced by Charcoal Gray 36081. This has been borne out by a number of people whith whom I have corresponded. That would make the full spec 36081/34102/34079. On the other hand, the Two Bobs sheet 72-048 shows two RF-4Cs in what appears to be the Euro-1 scheme, but claims that the colours are 36118/34102/34092. Which is correct? Or, were there two subtly different versions of the scheme, one used in Europe and one in Japan?  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. The Two Bobs sheet is incorrect! The correct colours for F-4s are 36081/34102/34079. HTH SignatureJJ > The AirDoc F-4 decal sheet instructions claim that the Europe-1 camouflage > is simply SEA camouflage with the Tan 30219 replaced by Charcoal Gray [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Which is correct? Or, were there two subtly different versions of the > scheme, one used in Europe and one in Japan? > The Two Bobs sheet is incorrect! The correct colours for F-4s are > 36081/34102/34079. Thanks JJ! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. You're welcome Enzo. You could also check out www.amarc.dk -> F-4 -> Colours (scroll down and you will find the Euro I scheme). Regards, SignatureJJ >> The Two Bobs sheet is incorrect! The correct colours for F-4s are >> 36081/34102/34079. > > Thanks JJ! Two Bobs are right! regards Ian U.K. > The AirDoc F-4 decal sheet instructions claim that the Europe-1 camouflage > is simply SEA camouflage with the Tan 30219 replaced by Charcoal Gray 36081. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Which is correct? Or, were there two subtly different versions of the > scheme, one used in Europe and one in Japan? > Two Bobs are right! regards Ian U.K. OK.... now I'm totally confused! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Enzo, There's no need to be confused. Ian simply repeated an often seen error. Fact is, the Euro I scheme was different from aircraft type to aircraft type, e.g. the A-7D/Ks were 34079/36081, A-10s were 34092/34102/36081. Regards, SignatureJJ >> Two Bobs are right! regards Ian U.K. > > OK.... now I'm totally confused! > Enzo, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > aircraft type, e.g. the A-7D/Ks were 34079/36081, A-10s were > 34092/34102/36081. Now there's something *else* I didn't know... It makes the study of camouflage all the more interesting. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Enzo, It gets more complicated than that. The SAC version used 36081/36118/34086 (B-1s, B-52s and FB-111As), while MAC used 34092/34102/36118 (C-5s, C-130s and C-141s) - the latter combination was also used on USAF helicopters. OV-10s and A-10 (as well as experimental F-16s) used 34092/34102/36081. HTH, SignatureJJ >> Enzo, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Now there's something *else* I didn't know... It makes the study of > camouflage all the more interesting. No, in this instance Two Bobs is wrong! The specified colours for the F-4 are 36081/34102/34079. SignatureJJ > Two Bobs are right! regards Ian U.K. >> The AirDoc F-4 decal sheet instructions claim that the Europe-1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Which is correct? Or, were there two subtly different versions of the >> scheme, one used in Europe and one in Japan? > No, in this instance Two Bobs is wrong! > > The specified colours for the F-4 are 36081/34102/34079. Although it doesn't help that the grey weathered very rapidly, and could end up looking like -018 to -118 and every shade in between. In the end, put on the colour that looks right to you. You probably can't be proven to be wrong. SignatureJessica Actually, Nobody is wrong Stripping and refinishing an aircraft is time consuming and expensive. When the Euro-1 scheme came out, airframes with thier already painted surfaces in good repair, merely had one of thier colours oversprayed. I'm sure that when a total repaint was eventually required, it was done to the specified standard. Ian >> No, in this instance Two Bobs is wrong! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > In the end, put on the colour that looks right to you. You probably can't > be proven to be wrong. |
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