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London Sights and Tall Ships

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Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman - 29 Jun 2006 18:35 GMT
Hey guys,
I will be in London in a few weeks (wife is going on a business trip,
I get to help her with the luggage) and was wondering if besides the
tours of the H.M.S. Victory and the Cutty Sark what other tall ships
or other historic ships for that matter are there to visit.  And while
I am in the ship visiting mood, any maritime museums in the area that
you can suggest.  Don't forget the hobby shops.  I will be staying
just North of London, (Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire).

Many thanks in advance,

Ray
Austin, TX
===
Nigel Heather - 29 Jun 2006 18:51 GMT
HMS Victory is in Portsmouth not London.

There is a replica of the Golden Hind

And the WWII Warship HMS Belfast.

At Portsmouth if you do get down there you will see

HMS Victory
HMS Warrior
and the remains of the Mary Rose

Cheers,

Nigel
William H. Shuey - 29 Jun 2006 22:33 GMT
> HMS Victory is in Portsmouth not London.
> There is a replica of the Golden Hind
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>
> HMS Victory

    Watch your head-they didn't build these "Tall Ships" for tall people!
:-)

> HMS Warrior
> and the remains of the Mary Rose

    Fascinating to think that Henry the VIII walked those deck planks.

> Cheers,

Bill Shuey
kim - 30 Jun 2006 01:16 GMT
> > HMS Victory is in Portsmouth not London.
> > There is a replica of the Golden Hind
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> Watch your head-they didn't build these "Tall Ships" for tall people!
> :-)

I heard once that Cutty Sark has the lowest headroom of all. It was
supposedly to stop sailors from taking a nap by lying on the tea chests
stored below decks.

(kim)
Rik Shepherd - 29 Jun 2006 22:02 GMT
Ray  wrote

> Hey guys,
> I will be in London in a few weeks (wife is going on a business trip,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> you can suggest.  Don't forget the hobby shops.  I will be staying
> just North of London, (Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire).

There's National Maritime Museum [http://www.nmm.ac.uk] in Greenwich, within
easy walking distance from the Cutty Sark [http://www.cuttysark.org.uk/]
(which is itself close to an underground station and a ferry pier).  Between
the two there's the Painted Hall of the Old Naval College
[http://www.greenwichfoundation.org.uk/newpage2.htm] which is an interesting
building in itself but is also notable for being the place they had Nelson's
corpse on public view before his funeral.

In theory there's all sorts of interesting stuff in the Maritime Museum but
last time I went it seemed to have been reorganized to be 'child friendly'
(in the sense of reducing the number of things to actually look at, and
being full of hyperactive kids).

HMS Belfast [http://hmsbelfast.iwm.org.uk/], an outpost of the Imperial War
museum is floating on the south bank of the Thames, a little up river from
Tower Bridge.   The replica  Golden Hinde [http://www.goldenhinde.org/] is a
bridge or so further up river from the HMS Belfast.  The Belfast is big, and
takes some time to tour; the Golden Hinde isn't and doesn't.

If you're near the Tower of London at any point (and you wouldn't be too far
if you visit the Belfast), there's a very large and moving memorial listing,
I think, all the crews and ships of the Merchant Navy lost in the two World
Wars.
AussieRob - 29 Jun 2006 23:18 GMT
Rik,

Thanks for the list. I too will be in Merrye Olde later in the year and
will want to go see and do. My main focus is going to be airyplanes, but
anything historic and mechanical is worth a look IMO.

Rob
Rik Shepherd - 30 Jun 2006 16:01 GMT
Rob  wrote

> Thanks for the list. I too will be in Merrye Olde later in the year and
> will want to go see and do. My main focus is going to be airyplanes, but
> anything historic and mechanical is worth a look IMO.

No problems... of course, if you're after planes, and you're in the vicinity
of London, there's

(a) RAF Hendon, the RAF museum [
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/index.cfm ] ; accessible by getting off
the underground at Colindale Station, and walking for a bit.  Remember to
turn LEFT on leaving the station, otherwise you walk a long way until you
find someone who knows where the museum is.  I couldn't see any signs for it
until it was more or less visible, and it's just off the edge of the A-Z
street maps.  Well worth a visit, though.

(b) The Duxford branch of the IWM [
http://duxford.iwm.org.uk/server.php?show=nav.00d ], which I can't say
anything about because I've only been past it on the train (but the train
was going into London, which at least implies you could catch a train out to
get there).  Looking at the website, I notice it costs £13 to get into
Duxford, which might be a reason I haven't been.  There are a few planes
hanging from ceiling at the main Imperial War Museum in Lambeth (get off the
tube at Lambeth North - in theory you can walk from Waterloo station, in
practice it's nigh impossible to get out of Waterloo if you follow the
signs)

(c) The Flight Gallery of the Science Museum in South Kensington [
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/on-line/flight/  ].  Mostly models, but a
few real planes as well.  They've left their SE5a as one of Col. Savage's
inter-war skywriting planes, unlike Hendon, who decided they wanted a more
military appearance.  Obviously, the rest of the Science Museum [
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk ] is filled with technological things of
various sorts.

For massive mechanical weirdness, if you're in London on the first Sunday of
the month, there's the Kirkaldy Testing Museum  [ no website, but contact
details at
http://www.visitlondon.com/city_guide/itemDetail/7X12235D.html?categoryNodeId=20
81&browse=true
]
in Southwark, which is mostly an impressive Victorian device used to twist,
compress, stretch, shear and general mess around with samples of metal to
find out their breaking points.  It's about 47 foot long, weighs 116 tons
(which is why, when the Kirkaldy family sold the purpose-built building it's
in, the new owners just resigned themselves to not having a ground floor),
and still works.  It's run by volunteers, hence the rather limited opening
hours.  The building looks rather as if it was built around the machine.
Even if you're not there when it's supposed to be opening, it's worth
ringing a bit ahead, to see if anyone's going to be there - we got in on a
Thursday afternoon because the curator had to show a TV producer around.
tomcervo - 30 Jun 2006 16:13 GMT
You might want to take  a train to Hartlepool and see HMS
Trincomalee--an as-built Leda class frigate from 1817, almost fully
restored.
http://www.hms-trincomalee.co.uk/
Andrew M - 01 Jul 2006 21:12 GMT
If you run into any kits of the HMS Manchester '30's cruiser and can get
contact information....woo hoo.
>snip>
> Hey guys,
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> Austin, TX
> ===
 
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