Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
to make an adpatation?
MossyOats - 03 Jul 2006 01:06 GMT
> Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
> to make an adpatation?
Well this link simply show the pearl as a hybrid of the director's
imagination
http://www.kipar.org/piratical-resources/potc-black-pearl.html
I havent seen the film, but from the site above, you could go early
british or spanish.
I'll datamine the photos and post a better reply. Didnt want to leave ya
hangin'

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Stephen Tontoni - 03 Jul 2006 01:14 GMT
> Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
> to make an adpatation?
That I don't know... it wasn't a real ship, but a facade built around a
barge. On the other hand, the Interceptor from that movie is a real
ship. It's the Lady Washington and it recedes in Grays Harbor
(Washington state) area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Washington
http://ladywashington.org/
I think there are references galore on the Lady Washington.
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MossyOats - 03 Jul 2006 01:25 GMT
> Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
> to make an adpatation?
From what stills I seen, you could go with the Bounty or Surprise. But the
three lanterns on the back may lend you to some parts sources
(ornamentation) to improvise.
Googling BlackBeard shows some strong similarities
http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/tall_ships/QAR.htm
http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/maritime/Blackbeard/qar.htm
Maybe a PRINS WILLEM
http://naturecoast.com/hobby/corel.htm#PRINS
or WAPPEN VON HAMBURG
http://naturecoast.com/hobby/sm28.htm
But "the SIRENE" seems to fit the bill of a pirate/renegade boat..small
and agile, not many guns
http://naturecoast.com/hobby/corel.htm#SIRENE
or "The BERLIN"
http://naturecoast.com/hobby/corel.htm#BERLIN
Its your call. Best I can do on short notice.

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Hub & Diane Plott III - 03 Jul 2006 01:27 GMT
Saw a 1/72 kit of it( Pirates of the Caribbean ship) from Revell at the
hobbyshop yesterday.
Hub
> Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
> to make an adpatation?
MossyOats - 03 Jul 2006 01:37 GMT
> Pirates of the Caribbean ship
Are you refering to this Revell ??
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMPL6&P=0

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Hub & Diane Plott III - 03 Jul 2006 03:14 GMT
Not sure, the one in the shop had movie tie-in logos and pictures on the box
but I did not pay that much attention to see if what you showed in the link
was the same ship.
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 19:27:06 -0500, Hub & Diane Plott III
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> Pirates of the Caribbean ship
Are you refering to this Revell ??
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMPL6&P=0

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maiesm72@netscape.com - 03 Jul 2006 03:30 GMT
Participated in a campaign to get decent movie tie-in kits for the
movie. Never got a commitment, just requests for ideas.
If they have actually done the Black Pearl and to 1/72 scale to boot
(!!!!!) maybe they listened this time.
BTW, the old Revell Captain Hook Pirate Ship (I think it's the one
shown in the earlier post, the "Jolly Roger") is a 1/72 scale model of
the attraction that used to be in Disneyland. The Strombecker Rocket To
the Moon (re-poped by Glencoe as the Mars Liner) kit is a 1/72 scale
model of the original structure at Disneyland. It was replaced years
ago by a smaller version.
As both of these were not operational vehicles we listed them under the
Structures catagory in ESM72. Disney also produced a beautiful 1/72
scale version of the rocket as a nightlight with a suitable backdrop in
resin about three years back.
If anybody out there has any of the Disney logo kits available please
keep me in mind.
Tom
> Not sure, the one in the shop had movie tie-in logos and pictures on the box
> but I did not pay that much attention to see if what you showed in the link
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tomcervo - 03 Jul 2006 03:46 GMT
> Not sure, the one in the shop had movie tie-in logos and pictures on the box
> but I did not pay that much attention to see if what you showed in the link
> was the same ship.
> Are you refering to this Revell ??
> http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMPL6&P=0
That's the Disneyland Pirate ship; the molds are probably older than
you are. It's not modelled on a real ship--look at the depth below the
waterline; that thing would capsize on wet grass.
Look at "Master and Commander"--the Surprise is HMS Rose and the French
privateer is a CGI Constitution. Not a lot of imagination in these
movie types and the Black Pearl is probably based on something floating
in the studio tank, which may have been based on a real ship.
maiesm72@netscape.com - 03 Jul 2006 06:35 GMT
Just another little footnote on the Disneyland ship.
For years the rumor was that it was being sent to one of the other
parks. The truth is that the structure had been sitting directly in the
water and almost all of the wood up to just below the inside floor was
badly damaged by dry rot. It was scrapped. :-(
If the Jolly Roger is available again I should buy one. I guess that it
does not have any Disney logo, but maybe I can find an old box
somewhere. That's how I got my Aurora Cheyenne helicopter, one section
at a time, parts, instructions, decals box.
Tom
> > Not sure, the one in the shop had movie tie-in logos and pictures on the box
> > but I did not pay that much attention to see if what you showed in the link
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> movie types and the Black Pearl is probably based on something floating
> in the studio tank, which may have been based on a real ship.
HouseOfHauer - 03 Jul 2006 06:52 GMT
Lindberg still offers their small Jolly Rogers. Around 16 inches
long...detail is perfect. With a week and some good acrylic paints,
you have a top-self piece of furnishing for a coffee table. Toss the
ratlines that come w/it and use regular cotton floss or wool yarns.
>Just another little footnote on the Disneyland ship.
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>> movie types and the Black Pearl is probably based on something floating
>> in the studio tank, which may have been based on a real ship.
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Alexander Arnakis - 05 Jul 2006 03:48 GMT
>Lindberg still offers their small Jolly Rogers. Around 16 inches
>long...detail is perfect. With a week and some good acrylic paints,
>you have a top-self piece of furnishing for a coffee table. Toss the
>ratlines that come w/it and use regular cotton floss or wool yarns.
The Lindberg Jolly Roger is really a model of the French 30-gun
frigate La Flore. Not only does this ship postdate the golden age of
piracy, but it's really not the kind of ship that would be suitably
used by pirates. The Smer Black Falcon would be a much more typical
pirate ship.
The Old Man - 05 Jul 2006 12:47 GMT
> The Lindberg Jolly Roger is really a model of the French 30-gun
> frigate La Flore. Not only does this ship postdate the golden age of
> piracy, but it's really not the kind of ship that would be suitably
> used by pirates. The Smer Black Falcon would be a much more typical
> pirate ship.
The Smer "Black Falcon", that's the ancient Aurora "Black Falcon",
right? I had a copy of that once. Its almost complete, but has NO sails
at all (at least my copy).
More recently, I saw it (and several old former Pyro moldings) for sale
at a local pet store done up as shipwrecks. The Aurora entry was in two
complete pieces and all were set up with air hoses inside for the
bubblers.
MossyOats - 03 Jul 2006 01:39 GMT
> Saw a 1/72 kit of it( Pirates of the Caribbean ship) from Revell at the
> hobbyshop yesterday.
> Hub
From the stills, it wouldn't have the crow's nest on the bowsprit/jib
boom. Not saying that it could be left off.

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<This Space For Rent> - 03 Jul 2006 04:05 GMT
>Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
>to make an adpatation?
Count DeMoney wanted to know WHAT current models are available that
resemble the Black Pearl. A few were posted earlier in the thread.
PRINZ has too many guns...
BERLIN comes very close, save the lookout on the jib boom...
SIRENE would be my choice. I'd study the film on dvd, gatherup some
raw stock and go with it.

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z - 05 Jul 2006 19:49 GMT
> Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
> to make an adpatation?
Well, coming out of left field:
The Wicked Wench Paper Model
<http://www.disneyexperience.com/wwench_model.html>
maiesm72@netscape.com - 05 Jul 2006 20:34 GMT
Another footnote to digest:
The Disneyland ship Columbia was decked out as the Black Pearl for the
premier with tattered black sails and a few other odds and ends. I
should have taken pictures, but since there is no model of her no big
deal.
The Disney Mark Twain riverboat is now out in Z Gauge as part of the
Disneyland series from Bob Olszewski. Diecast with some of the finest
detail I have ever seen. He is doing the entire length of Main Street
with the train station at one end, castle at the other end, all of the
buildings and both squares. All are lighted and will come off of their
bases to fit into the entire diorama when the table becomes available.
He also does some of the attractions. So far they include the teacups,
entrance to Tomorrowland (current), Jungle Cruise, Mark Twain, Haunted
Mansion and other on the way. The only problem with an entire park
(aside from needing a bigger garage) is that Main Street is done as it
was on opening day while the rides are current.
N Gauge modelers have been buying some of the accessories as Bob uses N
Gauge for vehicles and figures to provide a bit of forced perspective.
There is a horse-drawn trolly, an omnibus and a touring car; Disneyland
Band, Disneyland Princesses and several sets offering guests and items
such as a balloon vendor, popcorn vendor and the like.
One big disappointment is the train. A beautiful operating N Gauge
Disneyland train had been designed with prototypes being tested when
they decided to cheap it out and use a repainted old Bachmann POC that
runs poorly and does not look right. It comes with a passenger car and
a baggage/passenger car from the old set.
And that's just one not so small aspect of blending Disney collecting
with a rabid scale model habit :-)
Tom
> > Are there any ship model kits that come close enough to the Black Pearl
> > to make an adpatation?
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> The Wicked Wench Paper Model
> <http://www.disneyexperience.com/wwench_model.html>