Recently, I have been visiting my parents. My Deep Stash is located in their
attic, as are a number of models which I built over twenty years ago. They
were all packed carefully away and stored when I was posted out to Germany
in 1985 (I used to be in the RAF). That was the last aircraft modelling that
I did for a very long time. The barracks where I lived in Germany simply
didn't have enough room for even the smallest modelling bench. When I was
posted back to the UK, five years later, the unit where I was based actively
discouraged any personal interest in aircraft! I reverted to my first love -
railway modelling.
It has only been in the last two years that I have taken up aircraft
modelling again. I am slowly making my way through an extended build of
F-4s, which had been my intention twenty years ago.
I was interested to see how - or indeed *if* - my skills had improved since
I last built a model aircraft, so I unpacked the models from two decades ago
and cast a critical eye over them.
Well, I am pleased to say that my current models look a lot better than the
ones I build twenty years ago - however, in a very few cases that is due
simply to using better base kits. The modern Hasegawa F-4s look *far* better
than the old Italeri ones. My airbrush skills seem to have improved
slightly. The noticeable improvement is my attention to detail in the build.
Some of the old models have quite glaring joint lines that really should
have been filled and sanded. This is especially noticeable on the intakes
and noses of some of the F-4s. I really can't believe that I considered that
sort of thing acceptable in those days.
In those days, although I used an airbrush, I didn't have a compressor. I
used to use cans of propellant instead. Therefore I was always looking for a
way to reduce my propellant usage. One of the ways was to use an aerosol
gloss lacquer that I bought from an art shop. It worked quite well, but I
had to be very careful - spray on too much in one go and it would run. It
was very easy to get a run, but because it was a lacquer, it was very
difficult indeed to get rid of the run. Some of the models have a noticeable
scar on the surface where I had ended up peeling off the lacquer and had
never been able to properly repair the surface. Sanding the edges of the
scar simply peeled off more lacquer. Thankfully there is none of that these
days. I have a compressor and I use Kleer (aka Future) as a varnish. I still
get runs if I'm not careful though! ;-) I don't think I've become any more
patient. Never mind... these runs are easy to sort out.
Considering everything, I feel that my greatest improvement has been in
"consistency". Some of the models that I looked at are very good. I
remember feeling very proud of an F-4F (built from the Italeri kit using
decals from Modeldecal sheet 46) and a Kfir C2 (from the Hasegawa kit).
Looking at these over twenty years later and I feel I would *still* be proud
of them. Other models, however, I wouldn't be so proud of. There is a MiG-25
and a French Jaguar that look as though they have been assembled and painted
by a stunned sloth with its head in a bag! There is a Hasegawa Sea Harrier
that even that sloth would have been ashamed to admit to. The annoying thing
is that I know that all of those sub-standard models were built *after* the
F-4F andf Kfir.
Back then, it seemed that occasionally I would produce a "masterpiece",
while most of my models were fair to middling and some were absolute
disasters. Nowadays, my models are all of a similar standard, which is
somewhat better than my old "masterpiece" standard. I tend to spend more
time detailing things that I would never have considered detailing before. I
add sway braces to pylons and extra detail in cockpits and undercarriage
bays. I almost always use resin seats and other detailing parts. I also seem
to get more fun and satisfaction out of modelling these days. Back then, if
a model wasn't going well and seemed to be turning into a bit of a disaster,
I would lose interest and sometimes not do any modelling for a couple of
weeks. Nowadays I simply sand down the rubbish bits and do it over again -
it's even more fun second time round!
All in all, I'm happy with the improvements - such as they are - in my
skills.
I wonder if I should have left those old models alone... I didn't. I
salvaged a number of sets of Sparrow missiles from the F-4s and an F-15. The
new Hasegawa kits don't have them! What would *you* have done?
I currently have plans for another F-4F model - it will be the exact same
aircraft from Modeldecal sheet 46 that I built more than twenty years ago.
This time I'll use the modern Hasegawa kit but it will be very interesting
to compare it to the old Italeri model that I was so pleased with all those
years ago.

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Gray Ghost - 08 Jul 2006 18:58 GMT
> the unit where I was based actively
> discouraged any personal interest in aircraft!
Was there any explanation as to why? That seems quite counter intuitive.
frank
Enzo Matrix - 08 Jul 2006 20:49 GMT
RGray Ghost sniggered evilly behind my back:
>> the unit where I was based actively
>> discouraged any personal interest in aircraft!
>
> Was there any explanation as to why? That seems quite counter
> intuitive.
"Security concerns". The station security officer closed down the unit
scale aircraft modelling club because he was concerned that someone would
build a model of a Tornado in nuclear strike fit. Yes, it's a total
over-reaction, but that's how things were.
I was a member of the British Aviation Research Group and of Air-Britain. I
used to receive monthly journals from both organisations. The BARG journal,
British Aviation Review, gave details of military aircraft movements and
sighting which were compiled from purely civilian sources. I was collating
these into detailed individual histories of Harrier, Phantom and Tornado
aircraft. When my bosses became aware of this, I was investigated by the RAF
Police as a possible security risk. I was ordered to end my membership of
both organisations and all my files and my back numbers of BAR were
confiscated and destroyed. Luckily, by that time (1990) I had transferred
all the data from a card index to a computer database. I managed to hide the
back-ups and at the time no-one in authority had any knowledge of the
concept of a data back-up. Sadly for me the fun had gone out of it all, so I
abandoned aircraft modelling and took up railway modelling again.
During my last years in the air force it became very clear to me that the
air force wants all its people to be automatons who work hard all day and
then just switch themselves off when off duty. I was glad to leave. Sad
really.

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jspacher - 09 Jul 2006 01:06 GMT
> RGray Ghost sniggered evilly behind my back:
>>
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> build a model of a Tornado in nuclear strike fit. Yes, it's a total
> over-reaction, but that's how things were.
I understand that. Spent 20 in the USAF. Could not take pictures or discuss
aircraft on base, but any "civi" could go to the end of the runway just off
base,
and take all the photos they wanted. When we geared up for Desert
Storm the town knew where and when we were before we did. I used to
get more detail and reference photos at air shows than working
around the planes.
Took up armor and have not looked back.
Spacdaddy
Gray Ghost - 09 Jul 2006 02:59 GMT
> RGray Ghost sniggered evilly behind my back:
>>
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> day and then just switch themselves off when off duty. I was glad to
> leave. Sad really.
That is beyond sad. Have they forgotten the love of flying/working around
aircraft that motivates people to do it in the first place. From what I
understand of the 30's it was that love and interest that created the core
of the RAF that saved the day in 1940.
Frank
Richard Brooks - 10 Jul 2006 00:15 GMT
> RGray Ghost sniggered evilly behind my back:
>>
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> then just switch themselves off when off duty. I was glad to leave. Sad
> really.
It seems a lot different from the 70s and a shame how things change but
I suppose they have to!
It's strange how things go from base to base as I remember one Air Cadet
who used to have a camera slung around his neck whilst on base at RAF
Brize Norton.
At around that time, one of my brothers-in-law was stationed at Lyneham.
When his section was approached by an officer to make brass fittings for
(I think) a Bleriot replica and his NCO said it was almost impossible to
make the fuel tanks for it, my brother-in-law said that he could do get
it done and for the rest of his time there he was left alone to make all
sorts of dubious things such as napkin rings for the officers dinner
tables and even had a blacksmith's forge to play with. Some of the
other guys spent time fixing cars!
Richard.

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kim - 09 Jul 2006 13:04 GMT
> Recently, I have been visiting my parents. My Deep Stash is located in their
> attic, as are a number of models which I built over twenty years ago. They
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> discouraged any personal interest in aircraft! I reverted to my first love -
> railway modelling.
I once dreamt I was back in a (Army) barracks in Germany, it was one of the
few times in my life I was really happy. In the dream I went to bed in
Germany then woke up for real in England. I had absolutely no idea where I
was? The bed was facing a different direction and it took me a good five
minutes to come to terms with the fact I was now living in England. Has that
ever happened to anyone else, particularly service personell?
(kim)
Enzo Matrix - 09 Jul 2006 21:34 GMT
>> Recently, I have been visiting my parents. My Deep Stash is located
>> in their attic, as are a number of models which I built over twenty
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> living in England. Has that ever happened to anyone else,
> particularly service personell?
I once woke up on a Saturday morning and thought I would do a bit of
shopping. So I got dressed in my civvies and headed out to the car. Imagine
my disappointment when I met all my mates, dressed in uniform, who informed
me that it was actually Tuesday...

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Al Superczynski - 10 Jul 2006 04:00 GMT
>I wonder if I should have left those old models alone... I didn't. I
>salvaged a number of sets of Sparrow missiles from the F-4s and an F-15. The
>new Hasegawa kits don't have them! What would *you* have done?
I wish I still had every model I've ever built, and I never break
up a finished model on purpose.

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maiesm72@netscape.com - 10 Jul 2006 21:08 GMT
Many years ago I took all of the models that I had built and took a
good look at them. There were maybe sixty 1/72 scale aircraft, none
finished to the level that I considered good at the time.
Dave Boksanski and I carefully disassembled them all and sorted them
into seperate boxes. For years we (including a few other folks from
IPMS chapters in the area) used those parts for scratch building,
replacement for other kit parts and the like. Bo was one of the best
scratchbuilders I have ever seen. He could look at photos of a plane
and see parts from kits that could be used.
Today all of those parts are further divided into ziplock bags and
boxes and somehow they bred. I havn't disassembled a finished model
since then. I do regret demolishing a few of those kits, though.
Tom
> >I wonder if I should have left those old models alone... I didn't. I
> >salvaged a number of sets of Sparrow missiles from the F-4s and an F-15. The
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> "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
> and the critics will flame you every time."