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Enzo Matrix - 23 Jul 2006 21:42 GMT
Do you like special colour schemes?

The Luftwaffe certainly seems to like 'em. All the kits available for German
F-4s seem to have a special anniversary scheme of some description. None of
them have normal line jets.

Would you prefer to build an anniversary scheme? Perhaps something with lots
of tiger stripes, a Spitfire silhouette painted over the wings or a topless
Amazon warrior on the fin. Maybe when building a US Navy aircraft, you
always go for the CAG jet.

Or would you, like me, much prefer an ordinary drab everyday line jet?

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e - 23 Jul 2006 22:56 GMT
>Do you like special colour schemes?
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>Or would you, like me, much prefer an ordinary drab everyday line jet?

was there ever a tiger meet starfighter?
Jim Atkins - 24 Jul 2006 00:32 GMT
Yeah- the old Monogram kit had decals for a tiger-striped 104- very cool.

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e - 24 Jul 2006 01:34 GMT
>Yeah- the old Monogram kit had decals for a tiger-striped 104- very cool.

know of any pics? it must be cool.
tomcervo - 24 Jul 2006 01:45 GMT
RoG seems to shoot these out every few months or so--look for the
Tormados or F16's with a "superdecal" advertised.
Stephen Tontoni - 24 Jul 2006 03:25 GMT
> >Yeah- the old Monogram kit had decals for a tiger-striped 104- very cool.
> >
> know of any pics? it must be cool.

Did a google and found this cool site:

http://www.pbase.com/airluis/beja2002&page=all

And here's an interesting decal sheet in 1/48; I'm sure it or something
similar is available in 1/72:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/albatros/48006_F-104/alc006.htm

Now if you can get a better picture of this:

http://www.milaviationpics.com/photogallery/2004/02.pratica/pages/2004_02
_010.html

Have fun... because starfighters in cool livery is a mine with a very
deep shaft and rich vein!!

--- Stephen
Mad-Modeller - 24 Jul 2006 05:14 GMT
> >Yeah- the old Monogram kit had decals for a tiger-striped 104- very cool.
> >
> know of any pics? it must be cool.

Esci also had an F-104 in 1/72 in Tiger Meet markings.  They moulded the
kit in yellow plastic.  Aarrrgh!
Want one?

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Enzo Matrix - 24 Jul 2006 07:30 GMT
RMad-Modeller sniggered evilly behind my back:

>>> Yeah- the old Monogram kit had decals for a tiger-striped 104- very
>>> cool.
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> Esci also had an F-104 in 1/72 in Tiger Meet markings.  They moulded
> the kit in yellow plastic.  Aarrrgh!

I was halfway through building that in 1985 when I was posted to Germany.  I
packed the kit carefully away with the intention of completing it when I got
the chance (although it was ging to be a Dutch line jet, not a Tiger meet
one). Sadly I lost track of where I put it.

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Stephen Tontoni - 24 Jul 2006 01:21 GMT
> >Do you like special colour schemes?
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> was there ever a tiger meet starfighter?

There are some gorgeous Italian tiger/fighter meet schemes for the F104,
and decals to go with. Oh, Canadian and German as well, with decals
easily available.

-- Stephen
e - 24 Jul 2006 03:07 GMT
>> >Do you like special colour schemes?
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>-- Stephen

coolness. thanks
Luca Beato - 24 Jul 2006 01:50 GMT
>was there ever a tiger meet starfighter?

There were at least these:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0552623/L/
http://www.haf.gr/media/f-104_tigris.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0806819/L/
http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Stars/wC761.htm
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/portland/971/Reviews/50s/f-104g_48.htm#

As far as I remember, Belcher, Cutting Edge and Tauromodel made decals
for most of them.

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e - 24 Jul 2006 03:11 GMT
>>was there ever a tiger meet starfighter?
>
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>As far as I remember, Belcher, Cutting Edge and Tauromodel made decals
>for most of them.

thank you.
Stephen Tontoni - 24 Jul 2006 03:26 GMT
> >was there ever a tiger meet starfighter?
>
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> As far as I remember, Belcher, Cutting Edge and Tauromodel made decals
> for most of them.

Saluti Luca; it's been a long time since we talked! I hope all is well
with you. I'm busy as hell with work and doing an A20 to DB7 conversion
in time for the US nationals\s in Kansas City. I should finish (fingers
crossed)

See you -- Stephen
lbeato@iol.it - 04 Aug 2006 11:52 GMT
Stephen Tontoni ha scritto:

> Saluti Luca; it's been a long time since we talked! I hope all is well
> with you. I'm busy as hell with work and doing an A20 to DB7 conversion
> in time for the US nationals\s in Kansas City. I should finish (fingers
> crossed)
>
> See you -- Stephen

Hello Stephen. You're reason. Lately I'm being rather discontinuous in
following RMS.
At present I'm very busy too, with some small whirlybirds to bring to
the UK nationals, plus an Hispano Buchon and a Me.109D for a group
build with the friends from IPMS Milano.
Hope you best wishes for the contest!

Luca
Bill Shatzer - 24 Jul 2006 04:06 GMT
> was there ever a tiger meet starfighter?

http://www.collectorsaircraft.com/ECOM_Detail.asp?ID=6176

Cheers,
Al Superczynski - 24 Jul 2006 03:12 GMT
>...would you, like me, much prefer an ordinary drab everyday line jet?

    Nope.  That's not to say that I especially care for _special_
schemes, but I do like colorful airplanes.
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Mad-Modeller - 24 Jul 2006 05:14 GMT
> Do you like special colour schemes?
>
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> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Put me down for the service versions.  I think I've only ever done one
'Special' and that was the CF-104 Red Indian.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Gordon McLaughlin - 24 Jul 2006 12:05 GMT
I've always had a strong preference for anonymous squadron machines in
schemes typical of the aircraft.  This doesn't mean that I don't like
colourful aircraft but there are plenty of colourful schemes without going
in for specials.  I don't much like aces' aircraft either.  This is not
because I don't respect the pilots' achievements; it's just that I prefer
anonymous, representative examples where possible.

Gordon McLaughlin

> Do you like special colour schemes?
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> Or would you, like me, much prefer an ordinary drab everyday line jet?
Rob de Bie - 25 Jul 2006 13:36 GMT
>Do you like special colour schemes?
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>Or would you, like me, much prefer an ordinary drab everyday line jet?

I'm totally with you. I really dislike special paint schemes to be more
precise. Can't give a good reason for it. Perhaps it's the idea that I could
as well start building civil aircraft instead of my usual diet of military
aircraft. No special schemes for me, definitely.

Rob

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Ron Smith - 25 Jul 2006 20:55 GMT
> I'm totally with you. I really dislike special paint schemes to be more
> precise. Can't give a good reason for it. Perhaps it's the idea that I could
> as well start building civil aircraft instead of my usual diet of military
> aircraft. No special schemes for me, definitely.

For me it depends on the jet and if I already have a drab or two on the
shelf. F-104's I like in specials and the odd Phantom now and then. Some
USN CAG birds are OK too but I prefer the old lo-viz on most of them.
Enzo Matrix - 25 Jul 2006 21:31 GMT
>> I'm totally with you. I really dislike special paint schemes to be
>> more precise. Can't give a good reason for it. Perhaps it's the idea
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> then. Some USN CAG birds are OK too but I prefer the old lo-viz on
> most of them.

I like to build variations on a theme. As I type this, I am looking at a
line of five Hawker Hunters on my display shelf. They are all ordinary
squadron jets and are all in the same colour scheme. Yet the markings are
all different and the effect is both subtle and fascinating. I'd much prefer
to see that than five models of similar aircraft in vastly different special
schemes.

Having served on a squadron, I also associate special schemes with an awful
lot of unnecessary hard work. The special jet always had to be kept
absolutely spotless, just in case it had to go to an airshow or a
high-profile landaway. It was probably just coincidence, but it always
seemed to me that the powers that be chose the jet with the worst
maintenance record for the special scheme. Not only did it have to be kept
spotless, but it always took a lot more effort to get the damn thing to
actually fly! In my experience, the jet in the special scheme was always
hated!

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Ron Smith - 30 Jul 2006 09:41 GMT
Funny you should mention Hunters, I have four I intend to build someday,
one line Brit, one line Swiss, one semi-drab Swiss aeroteam (I forget
the name right now) and one special Swiss (blue & yellow IIRC).

> I like to build variations on a theme. As I type this, I am looking at a
> line of five Hawker Hunters on my display shelf. They are all ordinary
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> actually fly! In my experience, the jet in the special scheme was always
> hated!
Norm Filer - 25 Jul 2006 22:23 GMT
If it weren't for the fancy colorful birds I probably wouldn't be modeling
any more.  I really like the more colorful birds.  Since I build exclusively
in 1/72nd, the multiple builds don't quite eat a whole house full of space
either.

I have 93 finished Phantoms and have pretty much switched to Hornets for the
last year or so.  Have 18 done and another three in work.  All are either
CAG birds or special markings.  Several Canadian as they did some really
spectacular anniversary birds for a while.

The only problem I have is trying to keep up with the new F-18 schemes.
Seems like almost every week another neat one shows up.

I am also the odd man out with the releases of the Hasegawa kits with new
markings.  All the griping about the "tired, overpriced, worn out etc."
re-releases does not bother me at all.  Every time they release another one
with interesting markings it is another one I can build.

Norm
e - 26 Jul 2006 00:09 GMT
>If it weren't for the fancy colorful birds I probably wouldn't be modeling
>any more.  I really like the more colorful birds.  Since I build exclusively
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>
>Norm

geez, i thought my 11 walruses and 14 he-111's was
obsessive..but i bow to the master...
Mad-Modeller - 26 Jul 2006 04:32 GMT
> >If it weren't for the fancy colorful birds I probably wouldn't be modeling
> >any more.  I really like the more colorful birds.  Since I build exclusively
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> geez, i thought my 11 walruses and 14 he-111's was
> obsessive..but i bow to the master...

Yep, beats my 18 F-104s.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
eyeball - 30 Jul 2006 18:19 GMT
I too have this obsession.I have 101 1/72 Me262s,3 in 1/48,2 in 1/100
and 1 in 1/144,for a total of 107.
You might get the idea it's my favorite plane.
I also have many others of all eras built in numbers over a dozen each.
Maybe I need a hobby...

> >If it weren't for the fancy colorful birds I probably wouldn't be modeling
> >any more.  I really like the more colorful birds.  Since I build exclusively
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> geez, i thought my 11 walruses and 14 he-111's was
> obsessive..but i bow to the master...
Enzo Matrix - 26 Jul 2006 01:07 GMT
> I have 93 finished Phantoms

I'm making a serious attempt to catch you up.  I have 4 !  :-D

But... I have 21 unbuilt kits, each one with a decal sheet assigned to it. I
have three more Fujimi FG1s on the way from Japan and as soon as the
Hasegawa F-4J and F-4F are released in this country I shall be ordering 7 of
the former and 4 of the latter. In addition to the Spitfires, Hunters and
F-16s that I have lined up, I reckon that little lot will keep me going for
about six years.

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e - 26 Jul 2006 03:12 GMT
>> I have 93 finished Phantoms
>
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>F-16s that I have lined up, I reckon that little lot will keep me going for
>about six years.

i have about 15 lanc kits and versions. but no 1/48 which i
would build first.
Norm Filer - 26 Jul 2006 04:43 GMT
Yeah, I have a lot of finished Phantoms.  So what?  Why should it be about
bigger, more, faster, higher, better etc.??  Shouldn't it be more about
doing what you want in your modeling world and just enjoying what you choose
to do?

I build the models I want, in the markings that interest me and generally
have a really good time doing it.  It just seems to happen that I focus on a
few different types and then choose color schemes that I like for that bird.

One thing that I did not plan on when I started doing the same bird over and
over with just different colors or markings was that the display case and
the variety in it actually helps determine what the next project will be.
What will look good in there, what colors? Where will it fit best and show
off the markings.  Also is satisfying to add that project to the shelf when
it is done and just sit back and admire what you have done.

Norm
Mad-Modeller - 26 Jul 2006 05:34 GMT
> Yeah, I have a lot of finished Phantoms.  So what?  Why should it be about
> bigger, more, faster, higher, better etc.??  Shouldn't it be more about
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> have a really good time doing it.  It just seems to happen that I focus on a
> few different types and then choose color schemes that I like for that bird.

No problem here, Norm.  If you enjoy what you're doing then you are
doing it right.

> One thing that I did not plan on when I started doing the same bird over and
> over with just different colors or markings was that the display case and
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>
> Norm

Now that worries me a little.  The ex-wife used to buy books because of
the colour of the cover.  I had some really great books that I couldn't
read because I would mess up the decorating scheme by moving them.
I got a lot of reading caught up when she left. ;)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Stephen Tontoni - 26 Jul 2006 08:05 GMT
> Yeah, I have a lot of finished Phantoms.  So what?  Why should it be about
> bigger, more, faster, higher, better etc.??  Shouldn't it be more about
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>
> Norm

Norm, when you showed your Phantoms at that lobby display at the Museum
of Flight, it really made it work. Gorgeous models of flamboyant planes!

--- Stephen
Enzo Matrix - 26 Jul 2006 12:06 GMT
> Yeah, I have a lot of finished Phantoms.  So what?  Why should it be
> about bigger, more, faster, higher, better etc.??  Shouldn't it be
> more about doing what you want in your modeling world and just
> enjoying what you choose to do?

Exactly!  That's the very essence of modelling!  It's *your* hobby and it
should be about what *you* want.

> I build the models I want, in the markings that interest me and
> generally have a really good time doing it.  It just seems to happen
> that I focus on a few different types and then choose color schemes
> that I like for that bird.

As I've said before, I like to build variations on a theme. There are just
so many variants with the F-4. The differences between an early F-4B and a
late F-4G are immense and yet the aircraft look superficially similar.
That's what makes it so interesting as a modelling subject.

Spitfires are also as interesting, in my opinion. The Spitfire I and the
Spitfire F.24 were almost totally different aircraft, yet both are instantly
recognisable as Spitfires. A collection showing the evolution of the design
will be fascinating.

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e - 26 Jul 2006 15:31 GMT
>Yeah, I have a lot of finished Phantoms.  So what?  Why should it be about
>bigger, more, faster, higher, better etc.??  Shouldn't it be more about
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>
>Norm

norm, people were poking light hearted fun at you.
i have so many lindberg german ac kits it's silly. will i
build them all? not during this life....
i have other obsessions....millions of wheat pennies, etc.
Ultan Rooney - 26 Jul 2006 05:33 GMT
> >Do you like special colour schemes?
> >
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> >
> >Or would you, like me, much prefer an ordinary drab everyday line jet?

I generally prefer more colourful schemes but I generally use the kit decals
so it all depends what the kit decals are like. I have some aftermarket
anniv ersary schemes that add a bit of colour to my collection.

I usually do not build more that one version of a particular plane.

Cheers
Ultan
 
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