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Sean Magill - 24 Jul 2006 23:35 GMT
I'm looking for the proper color for the interior of WW2 Japanese aircraft.
Actually, I'm looking for an equivalent (or closely equivalent) color in the
Tamiya Acrylic line, since my local shop only carries acrylic in the Tamiya
line (I prefer acrylic, both for personal and for health reasons). Mail
ordering a different acrylic product is an option, but I'm hoping to get
lucky with the Tamiya line. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,

Sean
Gernot Hassenpflug - 25 Jul 2006 09:23 GMT
> I'm looking for the proper color for the interior of WW2 Japanese aircraft.
> Actually, I'm looking for an equivalent (or closely equivalent) color in the
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>
> Sean

Sean, I don't think Tamiya acrylics give you all the options. If you
are sticking to Tamiya, just go with their IJN/IJAF interior color
which is a sort of blue silver. In the modern kits, I believe a mix is
indicated using Tamiya colors. I'm not at home now so I can't get my
refs, but check out a Gunzo Sangyo Mr. Color chart for more specific
options in interior colors.

FWIW
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Sean Magill - 25 Jul 2006 10:32 GMT
Thanks. By chance, you wouldn't happen to know the Tamiya number (ex: XF-34
or X-11) for their IJN/IJAF interior color?

>> I'm looking for the proper color for the interior of WW2 Japanese
>> aircraft.
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>
> FWIW
Gernot Hassenpflug - 26 Jul 2006 02:26 GMT
> Thanks. By chance, you wouldn't happen to know the Tamiya number (ex: XF-34
> or X-11) for their IJN/IJAF interior color?

No worries, but what's wrong with 10 seconds of Google use, mate? Next
you'll be wanting me to come around to build your kits for you, please
your wife, and run your business LOL

http://www.ontrackscart.co.uk/graphics/guide_tamiya_acrylic.htm

Personally I prefer the laquer-based acrylics by Gunze Sangyo, and the
enamels (WEM, Xtracolor, Tamiya, etc.) which are all much harder in my
experience than water-based acrylics, and smoother in application. Of
course, the laquer-based ones are not so easy to brush apply (wetting
agent helps), and the enamels dry relatively slowly... YMMV
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Al Superczynski - 26 Jul 2006 03:32 GMT
>...I prefer the laquer-based acrylics by Gunze Sangyo...

    IMO these are absolutely the *best* model paints in existence.
Too bad they're not widely available in the US (Rainbow Ten to the
rescue).

<http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/index.html>

>...the laquer-based ones are not so easy to brush apply (wetting
>agent helps)...

    Surely you meant 'adding _retarder_ helps'?
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Gernot Hassenpflug - 26 Jul 2006 06:42 GMT
>>...I prefer the laquer-based acrylics by Gunze Sangyo...
>
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>
>      Surely you meant 'adding _retarder_ helps'?

Sorry Al, I don't know the correct term. I'll take your word for
it. Live and learn...
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Gernot Hassenpflug - 26 Jul 2006 02:37 GMT
> Thanks. By chance, you wouldn't happen to know the Tamiya number (ex: XF-34
> or X-11) for their IJN/IJAF interior color?

Sorry to appear anal, but top-posting sucks if you want to read
threads, if you ever have to you will understand at once. It is bad
newsgroup behaviour (has to do with the way computer programs sort and
display newsgroup messages).

That said, here is the page you should read and keep as a reference,
it is one of the best resources you will come across on the net:

http://ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/colorcharts.asp

So yes, X-13 can be used for the blue-metallic, but there are better
sources and/or mixes depending on the particular aircraft type under
discussion.

Cheers!
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e - 26 Jul 2006 03:04 GMT
>> Thanks. By chance, you wouldn't happen to know the Tamiya number (ex: XF-34
>> or X-11) for their IJN/IJAF interior color?
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>
>Cheers!

i keep bottom posting in a thread hoping others will catch
on. after all, do you answer before someone else speaks.
tuesday, ya moron!
when do we get stupid?

that was humor...
Al Superczynski - 26 Jul 2006 03:28 GMT
>i keep bottom posting in a thread hoping others will catch on.

    And I keep snipping the parts I'm not replying to, hoping that
others will catch on...     ;)
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Mad-Modeller - 26 Jul 2006 04:32 GMT
> >i keep bottom posting in a thread hoping others will catch on.
>
>      And I keep snipping the parts I'm not replying to, hoping that
> others will catch on...     ;)
> --
> Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

As do I most times.  Sometimes I worry I'll wear out the 'Delete' button
before the rest of the keyboard goes.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Gernot Hassenpflug - 26 Jul 2006 06:42 GMT
>>i keep bottom posting in a thread hoping others will catch on.
>
>      And I keep snipping the parts I'm not replying to, hoping that
> others will catch on...     ;)

I keep other people's headers in, hoping it helps people to see who
posted what. But all in all, its seems only people with an interest in
Japanese aircraft interiors will get it :-)
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Mad-Modeller - 27 Jul 2006 05:00 GMT
> >>i keep bottom posting in a thread hoping others will catch on.
> >
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> --
> Gernot Hassenpflug (gernot@rish.kyoto-u.ac.jp)

And who isn't?  It's an obscure subject judging by the number of
Japanese models not built.  
I used to use a Testors 'Regular' colour, Blue-Green.  It's probably
nowhere near right since there's no metallic element to it.
I started using Pactra Flat Roof Brown for the prop blades because it
looks like the 'tea' colour.  Unfortunately Testors dropped the colour
when they bought up Pactra.  I should have sufficient supply for the
kits I have left as long as it stays viable.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Stephen Tontoni - 26 Jul 2006 08:12 GMT
Way to avoid top-posting...erase entire previous message and start over.
If you really want to be R.M.S with it, start over with a new subject!
(how 'bout that officiating at the World Cup??)

... more humor, I hope....

--- Stephen
Mad-Modeller - 27 Jul 2006 04:48 GMT
> Way to avoid top-posting...erase entire previous message and start over.
> If you really want to be R.M.S with it, start over with a new subject!
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>
> --- Stephen

What colour is the interior of the World Cup?

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Stephen Tontoni - 27 Jul 2006 07:32 GMT
> > Way to avoid top-posting...erase entire previous message and start over.
> > If you really want to be R.M.S with it, start over with a new subject!
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>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

As I recall, the cup that was the world to me (when I used one) was
sorta gray on the inside with little white lines on the outside of it.
It also made for an excellent oxygen mask when playing "12 O'Clock High"
...

--- Stephen
eyeball - 26 Jul 2006 04:52 GMT
don't ya hate that?

> Sorry to appear anal, but top-posting sucks
 
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