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NiceToScaleModellers - 27 Jul 2006 23:30 GMT
Hello all,

I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help
people do nice things for each other.

Many times, you want to do something for someone, but all you know
about them is that they are interested in a particular hobby or
activity that you don't know much about.

I'm collecting information about as many different hobbies as I can.
So...two questions.

1. What do scale modellers like/need/want?
I'm looking for a list of things that someone else could pick out for
you that you would really enjoy receiving. This can include items, gift
certificates to particular stores, magazine subscriptions, books,
favors, trips to events, etc. Anything that you would find useful
and/or desirable in your capacity as a scale modeller. These don't have
to be "bought" items. If you really need lots of empty egg cartons, put
it on the list!

2. If I was married to a scale modeller, and wanted to better
understand what they are talking about over the dinner table without
actually becoming a scale modeller myself, what books or websites
should I look at?

Any information would be appreciated by myself and likely by the
families and friends of many scale modellers! The people on the other
newsgroups I've posted to have had a great time suggesting material for
their pages. I hope you do too!  :)

If you want to see what the results look like, click on any of the
links on this page under Find Out What They Like. (The one on Antique
Tractor Pulling is for the spouse I sponsor.)
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/index.html

BTW, the site contains no tracking tricks, cookie stuff, popups, info
collection devices, traps,  context-based ads or links to anything that
wasn't recommend by an active hobbyist. I really am doing what I say
I'm doing. It's *my* hobby. :-)
eyeball - 28 Jul 2006 01:21 GMT
Nice profile...what do trolls like?

> Hello all,
>
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> wasn't recommend by an active hobbyist. I really am doing what I say
> I'm doing. It's *my* hobby. :-)
NiceToScaleModellers - 28 Jul 2006 01:34 GMT
> Nice profile...what do trolls like?

Not a troll. Just haven't filled out a profile. Believe it or not, I'm
kind of shy and I don't like writing about myself.  My email address is
real, if you want to contact me directly.

I'm not a robot or selling anything or trying to trick you into looking
at the site. I'm a wife with a husband whose hobby (tractor pulling) I
don't understand, but I still want to support him as best I can. I'm
pretty sure I'm not the only one.

I want to listen to talk about what you need to enjoy building scale
models, then I want to share that information with people who want to
do something nice for their own scale modeller. I'm here because I want
to hear from people who actually do this. I suppose I could post some
fake question about how I'm just starting out in modelling and need
advice, but I'd rather be honest.

If you look at my threads on other groups, you'll see that (once we get
past the inevitable opening accusations and pornographic suggestions)
people have a good time talking about their favorite stores and things
they wish someone would do for them. I then spend 20-30 hours
researching their suggestions and making a page. They seem to like the
results quite a bit.

If nobody responds, I'll move along, but I'd really like to get a page
together for you folks, if you'll let me.
eyeball - 28 Jul 2006 01:52 GMT
I've already got this page and a half dozen others like it,thanks :)

> > Nice profile...what do trolls like?
>
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> If nobody responds, I'll move along, but I'd really like to get a page
> together for you folks, if you'll let me.
NiceToScaleModellers - 28 Jul 2006 02:06 GMT
> I've already got this page and a half dozen others like it,thanks :)

Of course you do. There are piles of pages for the people who actually
do the activity. It's the rest of us who are out in the cold. :-)

These pages aren't for you. They're for Aunt Janet who has a nephew who
she loves but rarely sees because he lives on the other side of the
country. His birthday is coming up. She knows he's into modelling.
She's not. To where can she send him a gift certificate that has the
things he needs? They're for your father-in-law who suspects that
another "I Heart Model Airplanes" t-shirt might not be what you really
want. They're for your spouse who is constantly getting asked by other
people what you want. And so on.

They're also about inspiring people to appreciate their loved ones'
hobbies, rather than resenting them.

Besides, I think scale models are cool. Another group showed me
pictures of the military scale models they build. They don't just do
the models. They make these dioramas and landscapes to put them in and
distress the tanks so they look "used" and stuff. Very detailed! Do all
of you do that?
Mad-Modeller - 28 Jul 2006 03:01 GMT
Nope.  Some of us just build the models and set them on the shelves.
In my case I always kept them in theme groups.  I experimented with
'Fighters', 'Bombers', etc. but I kept coming back to 'Countries' and
that was the way they stayed for many years.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
NiceToScaleModellers - 28 Jul 2006 03:14 GMT
> Nope.  Some of us just build the models and set them on the shelves.
> In my case I always kept them in theme groups.  I experimented with
> 'Fighters', 'Bombers', etc. but I kept coming back to 'Countries' and
> that was the way they stayed for many years.
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a model country! I've seen modelled
countryside on my husband's N-scale train layouts, but entire
countries? Sounds interesting! I'd love to see some. Are there
pictures?

>From what I've been told, to build a good model of a thing, you folks
like to have pictures of that thing to work from. Would gift
certificates to large booksellers like Amazon or Barnes and Noble,
where you can use them to get books with photos of whatever you are
currently building be good? A friend of mine runs a used bookstore. She
gets lots of donations of historical coffee table books with big
detailed photos of war scenes and airplanes and ships and terrain and
maps. It seems to me such things might be enjoyed by and of use to
scale modellers.

It also sounds like modellers can't get enough shelf space, yes?

BTW, where do you like to get your modelling supplies?
Al Superczynski - 28 Jul 2006 06:30 GMT
>I'm not sure I've ever seen a model country!

    Bill meant a country theme, i.e. aircraft used by the armed
forces of Italy, Germany, or Spain, etc.

>>From what I've been told, to build a good model of a thing, you folks
>like to have pictures of that thing to work from. Would gift
>certificates to large booksellers like Amazon or Barnes and Noble,
>where you can use them to get books with photos of whatever you are
>currently building be good?

    Yes!    :)

>It also sounds like modellers can't get enough shelf space, yes?

    Yes.    ;-p

>BTW, where do you like to get your modelling supplies?

    Local hobby shops for the most part.
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"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
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NiceToScaleModellers - 28 Jul 2006 13:43 GMT
>      Bill meant a country theme, i.e. aircraft used by the armed
> forces of Italy, Germany, or Spain, etc.

*blush* Oh... :-)

That does make more sense, but I was looking forward to seeing a tiny
scale model of Brazil!

> >BTW, where do you like to get your modelling supplies?
>
>      Local hobby shops for the most part.

I do like to recommend buying locally. I'm glad this is one of the
hobbies that does that.

For those who are not local, is there a online retailer with a good
selection that you like? I live in the boondocks and I recall that,
when my husband was building train layouts, the "local" hobby store was
over 25 miles away.

BTW, I like your "rules of acquisition". :-)
WmB - 28 Jul 2006 17:15 GMT
>>      Bill meant a country theme, i.e. aircraft used by the armed
>> forces of Italy, Germany, or Spain, etc.
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> That does make more sense, but I was looking forward to seeing a tiny
> scale model of Brazil!

Venezuela might be more interesting. Especially with the angry little guy in
the middle - sort of a Hispanic Howard Dean - playing his fiddle in a pool
of oil as the army he once equipped, rolls thru the streets under the
control of some ambitious future general.

WmB
Al Superczynski - 29 Jul 2006 02:37 GMT
>>I was looking forward to seeing a tiny scale model of Brazil!
>
>Venezuela might be more interesting. Especially with the angry little guy in
>the middle - sort of a Hispanic Howard Dean...

    Yeah, a Howard Dean with armed forces...     :(
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

Mad-Modeller - 29 Jul 2006 04:02 GMT
> >>      Bill meant a country theme, i.e. aircraft used by the armed
> >> forces of Italy, Germany, or Spain, etc.
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>
> WmB

Brazil could prove an interesting modelling challenge.  How to portray
all the burnt out forest and hang smoke overhead realistically?  OTOH,
they do have a heavy electric railway.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Al Superczynski - 29 Jul 2006 02:34 GMT
>I like your "rules of acquisition". :-)

    Thanks!    ;)
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

NiceToScaleModellers - 29 Jul 2006 06:49 GMT
> >I like your "rules of acquisition". :-)
>
>      Thanks!    ;)

BTW, I noticed your note about having a problem with wrapping, so
(since I'm awake in the middle of the night) I took a few minutes and
dropped your "rules" into HTML which will wrap nicely on screen. If you
want it, you can pick it up from the location below. Take the 4 spaces
out of the location. Let me know if you pick it up and I'll remove it
from my site.

http://www. spousalsponsorship. org/ Misc/ rules.html

You may also enjoy this Modeler's Prayer.
http://www.iprimus.ca/~treadhead/articles/prayer.html
Al Superczynski - 29 Jul 2006 07:45 GMT
>I took a few minutes and dropped your "rules" into HTML...

    Got it - thanks!  I'm in the process of moving my website back to
my ISP's server so this is perfect timing.    :)

>You may also enjoy this Modeler's Prayer.
>http://www.iprimus.ca/~treadhead/articles/prayer.html

    Boy, does that ever ring true...      ;-p

   
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

Mad-Modeller - 29 Jul 2006 04:02 GMT
I'd like to get my supplies locally but the death rate among non-model
railroad hobby shops around here is pretty high.  What I can't get at
Michael's I go online for.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
e - 28 Jul 2006 04:29 GMT
>> Nice profile...what do trolls like?
>
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>If nobody responds, I'll move along, but I'd really like to get a page
>together for you folks, if you'll let me.

we kinda do our own pages.
try down the hall.
NiceToScaleModellers - 28 Jul 2006 13:47 GMT
> we kinda do our own pages.
> try down the hall.

Actually, the folks down the hall have been giving me quite a bit of
good stuff. As have the lurkers on this group who have written to me
directly. Anyone who doesn't want to post ideas publicly is welcome to
do so, BTW. Just put "Scale Modelling" or something in the subject line
so I notice it in my giant pile of spam.
NiceToScaleModellers - 28 Jul 2006 14:49 GMT
Micro-Mark (which I saw one of you recommending on another thread)
offers gift certificates and seems to have a good selection of items
for modellers. Would any of you be disappointed to receive a gift
certificate to this site?
Al Superczynski - 29 Jul 2006 02:35 GMT
>Micro-Mark (which I saw one of you recommending on another thread)
>offers gift certificates and seems to have a good selection of items
>for modellers. Would any of you be disappointed to receive a gift
>certificate to this site?

    Nope.  I'd be _pleased_!    :-)
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

Ron Smith - 29 Jul 2006 05:15 GMT
Oh hell yes, I'm wanting a set of collets for my lathe.....

>>Micro-Mark (which I saw one of you recommending on another thread)
>>offers gift certificates and seems to have a good selection of items
>>for modellers. Would any of you be disappointed to receive a gift
>>certificate to this site?
>
>      Nope.  I'd be _pleased_!    :-)
NiceToScaleModellers - 29 Jul 2006 02:02 GMT
BTW, I can see why you guys are a bit fed up. I've been reading through
this group and you really do have a ridiculously high percentage of
trolls. Far higher than the other groups I've been to.

Why in the world do they bring their political agendas here in such
volume? Do scale modellers have a really active international lobby
group or something? Or do they think you can do some sort of voodoo on
the real airplanes using the models?
Al Superczynski - 29 Jul 2006 02:40 GMT
>I've been reading through this group and you really do have a ridiculously high percentage of
>trolls. Far higher than the other groups I've been to.

    You think there are a lot of trolls on RMS?  You ain't seen
nothing - you must not be looking at the 'right' groups.       ;-p

>Do scale modellers have a really active international lobby
>group or something?

    Sort of - the US branch is at http://www.ipmsusa.org .

>Or do they think you can do some sort of voodoo on
>the real airplanes using the models?

    Huh?
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

Stephen Tontoni - 29 Jul 2006 02:49 GMT
> >I've been reading through this group and you really do have a ridiculously
> >high percentage of
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>
>      Huh?

I think she's suggesting that we'd build a model of some military
hardware and then blow it up, to destroy the real thing. Like a voodoo
doll.

I think it would only work on a F-101....

(btw Al... see you in Kansas City. Arthur Bryant's BBQ, man...)

--- Stephen
Mad-Modeller - 29 Jul 2006 04:08 GMT
> > >I've been reading through this group and you really do have a ridiculously
> > >high percentage of
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>
> --- Stephen

Or a Zubr.  But they're already extinct.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Al Superczynski - 29 Jul 2006 06:19 GMT
>I think she's suggesting that we'd build a model of some military
>hardware and then blow it up, to destroy the real thing. Like a voodoo
>doll.
>
>I think it would only work on a F-101....

    Heh.     ;)

>(btw Al... see you in Kansas City. Arthur Bryant's BBQ, man...)

    If Gene and Kevin don't kill me by making me *walk* there.  Damn
fitness nuts like to torture me just because I've let myself go to
seed since I retired...   <sigh>    ;-p
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

Ron Smith - 29 Jul 2006 05:14 GMT
Some of us used to post much more modelling stuff but got tired of
answering the same old questions........What's the best paint? What's
the best airbrush? How do I wipe my nose?

> BTW, I can see why you guys are a bit fed up. I've been reading through
> this group and you really do have a ridiculously high percentage of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> group or something? Or do they think you can do some sort of voodoo on
> the real airplanes using the models?
NiceToScaleModellers - 29 Jul 2006 07:05 GMT
> Some of us used to post much more modelling stuff but got tired of
> answering the same old questions........What's the best paint? What's
> the best airbrush? How do I wipe my nose?

This group actually seems to have a pretty good FAQ.

I know that talking to newbies (and tourists like me) can get a bit
tiresome. Here, let me see if I can make it up to you. Close your
eyes...

"Dear, I've got a bone to pick with you about all these darn models.
You've got them all on shelves back there in your workroom. I had some
friends over yesterday and they didn't even get to see your freshly
detailed F94A Shugerbuster Special! I insist that you bring every one
of those models out here immediately and put them all over the house.
And make sure that at least 10 of them end up in the kitchen where I
can look at them while I cook your steak."

OK, back to real life now.

I have it on good authority that the US Army Ordnance Museum at
Aberdeen has a "Mile of Tanks" walking tour. Have any of you seen this
mile of tanks? Is it as impressive as it sounds?
Mad-Modeller - 30 Jul 2006 05:06 GMT
> > Some of us used to post much more modelling stuff but got tired of
> > answering the same old questions........What's the best paint? What's
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> And make sure that at least 10 of them end up in the kitchen where I
> can look at them while I cook your steak."

Ex-wife used to insist my antique cars occupy the dining room.  They
were prone to damage from passing pets and the boy.  No, no, they are
safer out in the modelling area.

> OK, back to real life now.
>
> I have it on good authority that the US Army Ordnance Museum at
> Aberdeen has a "Mile of Tanks" walking tour. Have any of you seen this
> mile of tanks? Is it as impressive as it sounds?

Never been down there but I've heard of it.  I used to know an armour
nut but his second wife made him give it up.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
e - 30 Jul 2006 05:10 GMT
>> > Some of us used to post much more modelling stuff but got tired of
>> > answering the same old questions........What's the best paint? What's
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

he made the wrong choice.
imnsho
NiceToScaleModellers - 30 Jul 2006 14:13 GMT
> Ex-wife used to insist my antique cars occupy the dining room.  They
> were prone to damage from passing pets and the boy.  No, no, they are
> safer out in the modelling area.

Many of the other kinds of enthusiasts I've talked to complained that
their SO's were not involved enough. They really wanted them to come
and sit in the woodshop or the garage and talk, or want to help out
with the various tasks or to go to the shows.

You folks, on the other hand, seem to want to be left the heck alone.

I'm getting the feeling I shouldn't recommend loved ones trying to get
involved by offering to do things like clean brushes. You also seem to
really dislike one of our more common attempts to be good sponsors,
which is to proudly display the results of your work.

Seriously, is just staying entirely out of your way the best way to be
a good sponsor to a scale modeler?
Ron Smith - 30 Jul 2006 21:34 GMT
> Many of the other kinds of enthusiasts I've talked to complained that
> their SO's were not involved enough. They really wanted them to come
> and sit in the woodshop or the garage and talk, or want to help out
> with the various tasks or to go to the shows.

It would be nice if she came to the occassional show, especially the
times I get a vendor table to help out but she's semi-handicapped now
and just isn't up to long days on her feet.

> You folks, on the other hand, seem to want to be left the heck alone.

Depends what I'm doing, stay the hell away if I'm airbrushing, working
with PE or rigging.....I'm off in another world then and distractions of
any kind can be a disaster....just ask the cat that got a few blue spots
one night.

> I'm getting the feeling I shouldn't recommend loved ones trying to get
> involved by offering to do things like clean brushes. You also seem to
> really dislike one of our more common attempts to be good sponsors,
> which is to proudly display the results of your work.

Pretty much don't touch my tools, many of them will cause you to leak
sticky red stuff if you touch the wrong part. And don't even think of
trying to clean anything near my model bench....if I lose or break it
that's my fault, if you do I get really pissed because I knew right
where it was and what it was for. As for display, only where kids, cats
and people that insist on seeing with their fingers can't get at it,
preferably behind glass.

> Seriously, is just staying entirely out of your way the best way to be
> a good sponsor to a scale modeler?

Buy us gift certificates from places we like to get stuff, say oooh and
ahhhh a lot and keep der grossen fingers offen das models! No they do
NOT need dusting by other than the builder. Show them off to visitors if
you like but do not pick them up, leave them where they are.
Al Superczynski - 31 Jul 2006 02:55 GMT
>You folks...seem to want to be left the heck alone.

    Not me!  I'd be thrilled if my wife were to get more involved
with my hobby.

>I'm getting the feeling I shouldn't recommend loved ones trying to get
>involved by offering to do things like clean brushes.

    Um, I'm very picky about tool maintenance...      ;-p

>You also seem to really dislike one of our more common attempts to be good sponsors,
>which is to proudly display the results of your work.

    Not so.  My wife bought my display case for me and _wanted_ me to
put it in the living room.      :)

>Seriously, is just staying entirely out of your way the best way to be
>a good sponsor to a scale modeler?

    Not at all.
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Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968

My "From" address is munged - use 'modeleral (at) swbell (dot) net' to respond via email.

Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place":
http://home.swbell.net/arfunguy/index.html
"Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
and the critics will flame you every time."

Ultan Rooney - 31 Jul 2006 05:57 GMT
> Many of the other kinds of enthusiasts I've talked to complained that
> their SO's were not involved enough. They really wanted them to come
> and sit in the woodshop or the garage and talk, or want to help out
> with the various tasks or to go to the shows.

That would be nice but not likely to happen.

> You folks, on the other hand, seem to want to be left the heck alone.
>
> I'm getting the feeling I shouldn't recommend loved ones trying to get
> involved by offering to do things like clean brushes. You also seem to
> really dislike one of our more common attempts to be good sponsors,
> which is to proudly display the results of your work.

I don't think doing menial tasks really helps. The ideal would be getting
involved in the hobby and building a few models but, again, thats not likely
to happen as she has her own interests.

> Seriously, is just staying entirely out of your way the best way to be
> a good sponsor to a scale modeler?

No but faking an interest may not help that much either.

Cheers
Ultan
NiceToScaleModellers - 30 Jul 2006 14:13 GMT
> Ex-wife used to insist my antique cars occupy the dining room.  They
> were prone to damage from passing pets and the boy.  No, no, they are
> safer out in the modelling area.

Many of the other kinds of enthusiasts I've talked to complained that
their SO's were not involved enough. They really wanted them to come
and sit in the woodshop or the garage and talk, or want to help out
with the various tasks or to go to the shows.

You folks, on the other hand, seem to want to be left the heck alone.

I'm getting the feeling I shouldn't recommend loved ones trying to get
involved by offering to do things like clean brushes. You also seem to
really dislike one of our more common attempts to be good sponsors,
which is to proudly display the results of your work.

Seriously, is just staying entirely out of your way the best way to be
a good sponsor to a scale modeler?
Sean Magill - 30 Jul 2006 19:14 GMT
My current building desk sits adjacent to our living room, allowing me to
see the wife and kid and carry on conversations. I've looked forward to
having my own, segregated hobby room, which I will have in another month or
so when the new house is finished. My excitement of having my own room is
now being tempered by the fact that I won't be next to the family living
room anymore...

Sean

>> Ex-wife used to insist my antique cars occupy the dining room.  They
>> were prone to damage from passing pets and the boy.  No, no, they are
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> Seriously, is just staying entirely out of your way the best way to be
> a good sponsor to a scale modeler?
NiceToScaleModellers - 30 Jul 2006 19:40 GMT
> My current building desk sits adjacent to our living room, allowing me to
> see the wife and kid and carry on conversations. I've looked forward to
> having my own, segregated hobby room, which I will have in another month or
> so when the new house is finished. My excitement of having my own room is
> now being tempered by the fact that I won't be next to the family living
> room anymore...

Building your own room gives you a great opportunity. Save a corner
where you don't put any shelves or anything that will be hurt if
brushed against. Put a comfortable chair or couch there and let your
family know that they are welcome to visit you. If you keep it clear,
you may find them choosing that chair now and again to read or play on
the floor in front of or do homework (depending on the age of the kid).
They may also like hearing about what you're modeling. Personally, I've
been fascinated by the first person quality of the stories you folks
keep tossing off. Your kid may end up the best educated kid in history
class. :-)
Mad-Modeller - 31 Jul 2006 06:26 GMT
> > My current building desk sits adjacent to our living room, allowing me to
> > see the wife and kid and carry on conversations. I've looked forward to
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> keep tossing off. Your kid may end up the best educated kid in history
> class. :-)

My daughter did.  She decided to come down and build with Dad.  She even
won an award for her Corvette at Mallcon when they were held in
Trexlertown, Pa.
Then boys became more important and modelling less so. :(
On the whole, I wish I'd done that with the boy.  Maybe he'd have
avoided some of the problems with women that he's had (like the one he's
still married to. ;Þ).
Contrary to how this all sounds, I do like women.  I just picked the
wrong one for the wrong reasons.  And to be fair, she picked the wrong
man for the wrong reasons.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Ron Smith - 30 Jul 2006 07:21 GMT
>>Some of us used to post much more modelling stuff but got tired of
>>answering the same old questions........What's the best paint? What's
>>the best airbrush? How do I wipe my nose?
>
> This group actually seems to have a pretty good FAQ.

Yep and there's always a goggle search possible. Sometimes you just want
to scream try google first!

> I know that talking to newbies (and tourists like me) can get a bit
> tiresome. Here, let me see if I can make it up to you. Close your
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> OK, back to real life now.

My wife likes my models, especially wild camouflage or the just plain
weird looking ones. I'm allowed to have my own glass fronted hutch for
displaying them. She can't cook to save her a.s and steak is always best
on the grill.

> I have it on good authority that the US Army Ordnance Museum at
> Aberdeen has a "Mile of Tanks" walking tour. Have any of you seen this
> mile of tanks? Is it as impressive as it sounds?

I'm not sure if it's still there, a few years ago some old biddy that
shouldn't have been driving in the first place managed to drive off the
road, hit one and destroy her car. There was talk of moving them at that
point. The tanks on display are impressive from a distance but close up
show signs of serious neglect.
WmB - 29 Jul 2006 16:50 GMT
> Some of us used to post much more modelling stuff but got tired of
> answering the same old questions........What's the best paint? What's the
> best airbrush? How do I wipe my nose?

lol. On the last question - doing it without the Exacto knife in your hand
is highly recommended.

WmB
crw59@earthlink.net - 29 Jul 2006 15:01 GMT
> Hello all,
>
> I'm in the process of creating a website whose purpose is to help
> people do nice things for each other.

> 1. What do scale modellers like/need/want?

I like guitars and asian girls.
NiceToScaleModellers - 29 Jul 2006 21:08 GMT
> I like guitars and asian girls.

I think I've already got you covered - at least as far as the guitars
go. The acoustic guitarists were great. A bit beer-obsessed, but they
did eventually give me some really good material. Their page went up a
couple of weeks ago.

The rest of your request involves a whole different kind of website
than the one I'm building.
Enzo Matrix - 29 Jul 2006 15:59 GMT
> What do scale modellers like?

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles and warm
woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with string. These are a few of
my favorite things.

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NiceToScaleModellers - 29 Jul 2006 21:14 GMT
> Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles and warm
> woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with string. These are a few of
> my favorite things.

Hmmm. Birthdays must be quite interesting at your house. I assume it's
schnitzel with noodles for dinner and crisp apple streudel for dessert?
I won't ask about the cream-colored ponies or the various kinds of
bells...
Enzo Matrix - 29 Jul 2006 21:20 GMT
>> Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles
>> and warm woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with string.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> schnitzel with noodles for dinner and crisp apple streudel for
> dessert?

Usually cheese!  :-D

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NiceToScaleModellers - 29 Jul 2006 21:28 GMT
> Usually cheese!  :-D

Actual cheese or a scale model of cheese?

> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

BTW, I wonder if anyone else on this group knows where your sig comes
from. ;-)
Enzo Matrix - 29 Jul 2006 21:42 GMT
>> Usually cheese!  :-D
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> BTW, I wonder if anyone else on this group knows where your sig comes
> from. ;-)

Oddly enough, I was having a similar discussion earlier today on another
group in which I partake.

For anyone who is interested, it is a quote from an episode of "Buffy the
Vampire Slayer".

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Mad-Modeller - 30 Jul 2006 05:11 GMT
> >> Usually cheese!  :-D
> >
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Now I'm disappointed.  I thought it was from some great literary piece.
Buffy?  Snort, snicker.......:)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
e - 30 Jul 2006 05:11 GMT
>> >> Usually cheese!  :-D
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

the scooby movies ruined her image for me. strictly a
lightweight.
Enzo Matrix - 30 Jul 2006 10:54 GMT
>>>> Usually cheese!  :-D
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Now I'm disappointed.  I thought it was from some great literary
> piece. Buffy?  Snort, snicker.......:)

Welllllllllllll...  It's also a play on a quote from the film "The Man in
the Iron Mask", which was "I wear the mask. It does not wear me."  Whether
you can call a Leonardo di Caprio film a "great literary piece" is another
matter entirely!  ;-)

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Kevin(Bluey) - 01 Aug 2006 10:46 GMT
>>>>>Usually cheese!  :-D
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> you can call a Leonardo di Caprio film a "great literary piece" is another
> matter entirely!  ;-)

The Man in the Iron Mask was originally made a long time before Di
Caprio was a glimmer in his fathers' eye.The remakes are not always as
good as the original movie IMHO.

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Al Superczynski - 30 Jul 2006 03:07 GMT
>Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles and warm
>woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with string. These are a few of
>my favorite things.

    And F-4s...      ;)
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Enzo Matrix - 30 Jul 2006 10:49 GMT
>> Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles
>> and warm woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with string.
>> These are a few of my favorite things.
>
>      And F-4s...      ;)

And Spitfires and Hunters and F-16s...  model railways... medieval
history...  palaeontology...  science-fiction...   oh, I'm just a seething
*mass* of obsessions!!!  :-D

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Al Superczynski - 30 Jul 2006 13:18 GMT
>I'm just a seething *mass* of obsessions!!!  :-D

    Look on the bright side.  You'll never suffer from an attack of
ennui.      ;-p
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Mad-Modeller - 31 Jul 2006 06:26 GMT
> >> Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles
> >> and warm woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with string.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

At least you're seething over some great stuff.  Well, maybe not the
F-16s, but the rest I share with you.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
NiceToScaleModellers - 30 Jul 2006 00:33 GMT
Question: Micro-Mark looks good for supplies, but not so much for kits.
I've been looking at the online dealers on your FAQ, but none of them
are jumping out at me. I can hit Google, but I don't want to recommend
places that have great SEOs but bad kits. :-)

Could you just name one or two of the online places where you like to
get the kits themselves (when you can't get them locally) so I can see
if they offer gift certificates? Places where you never have a problem
finding *something* you want.
Al Superczynski - 30 Jul 2006 03:06 GMT
>Could you just name one or two of the online places where you like to
>get the kits themselves (when you can't get them locally) so I can see
>if they offer gift certificates?

    NKR in Oz <http://www.nkrmodels.com.au/> and Rainbow Ten in Japan
<http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/index.html> are two of my
favorite sources, and I intend to try SBX Model Shop
<http://www.sbxmodelshop.co.uk/> for my next order from the UK.
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e - 30 Jul 2006 05:08 GMT
>>Could you just name one or two of the online places where you like to
>>get the kits themselves (when you can't get them locally) so I can see
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>favorite sources, and I intend to try SBX Model Shop
><http://www.sbxmodelshop.co.uk/> for my next order from the UK.

did you ever get that wing? i have looke in every possible
place and almost every kit box i have. nothing.
Enzo Matrix - 30 Jul 2006 10:47 GMT
> Could you just name one or two of the online places where you like to
> get the kits themselves (when you can't get them locally) so I can see
> if they offer gift certificates? Places where you never have a problem
> finding *something* you want.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/

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NiceToScaleModellers - 30 Jul 2006 22:53 GMT
OK, those of you who do the military models, how did I do? What did I
miss?
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/modelmilitary/

BTW, it's military model oriented because that what I got the best
information for. I'm hoping to gather enough to do a page for vehicle
modeler sponsors also. Similar, but different resources. Model trains
will also get a separate page.
Stephen Tontoni - 31 Jul 2006 05:08 GMT
> OK, those of you who do the military models, how did I do? What did I
> miss?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> modeler sponsors also. Similar, but different resources. Model trains
> will also get a separate page.

Hi Erika; it's a brilliant website and I just imagine that if you
weren't married now, you'd have to field a few proposals from this group!

One thing I would add, if I were you...regarding airbrushes, the best
source for airbrushes and accessories is Dixie Art Supply. The best
selection and prices, bar none. Here's their URL:
http://www.dixieart.com/

Thanks for sharing your site!

--- Stephen
Ultan Rooney - 31 Jul 2006 06:10 GMT
> OK, those of you who do the military models, how did I do? What did I
> miss?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> modeler sponsors also. Similar, but different resources. Model trains
> will also get a separate page.

A very good summary of what's is all about. Hope that it helps someone.

Cheers
Ultan
Mad-Modeller - 31 Jul 2006 06:32 GMT
Pretty cool.  I especially like the stuff about not cleaning up for us.
My mother dusted a few of my models to pieces when I was a kid.  OTOH,
it encouraged me to clean up after myself, just to save the agony!

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Al Superczynski - 31 Jul 2006 07:11 GMT
>...how did I do?

    It looks good!  You might want to add a link to
http://www.scalemodelindex.com/ .
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NiceToScaleModellers - 31 Jul 2006 12:43 GMT
I'm so glad you like your page! Thank you very much for the additional
links. I'll try to look into them tonight. Let me know if there's
anything else you think I need.
NiceToScaleModellers - 31 Jul 2006 23:40 GMT
Thanks for the additional links! I've added in those that made "sponsor
sense". :-)

On a slighly different subject, Al or maybe one you other ex-military
types:
I would like to do a set of "Support Your Troop" pages for military
personnel in various branches and states of deployment. I find lots of
info for super-immediate family, I find lots of info for sending
something to a random anonymous service person. I find very little for
Grandma and Aunt Janet to know the right thing to do for their
particular serviceperson.

I do find quite a bit of conflicting information about what one can or
should send to troops. Some info says care packages. Other info says
not to send photos because there's no way to carry them. I'm a pretty
good researcher. If I'm confused, Aunt Janet probably is too.

I *really* don't want to get these particular pages wrong or give
misplaced recommendations. Can any of your help me with this, or put me
in touch with someone who really knows what they're talking about?
There are so many different kinds of servicemen/women and
places/situations they could be in. And they are people who would
benefit in an unusually big way by getting the right thing from home.

Please feel free to email me directly or use the Contact form on the
Spousal Sponsorship site.

- Erika
Al Superczynski - 01 Aug 2006 10:07 GMT
>...Al or maybe one you other ex-military types:
>I would like to do a set of "Support Your Troop" pages for military
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Grandma and Aunt Janet to know the right thing to do for their
>particular serviceperson.

<http://www.americasupportsyou.com/americasupportsyou/index.aspx>
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NiceToScaleModellers - 01 Aug 2006 12:01 GMT
> <http://www.americasupportsyou.com/americasupportsyou/index.aspx>

Thank you, Al.
NiceToScaleModellers - 01 Aug 2006 12:12 GMT
Well Modelers,

I'll be moving on soon, but I'll keep an eye out here for a while
longer.

The Military Scale Modelers page is completed and linked into the rest
of the site. Thank you very much for all your input. I had tremendous
fun talking to you and researching your page. I hope you all receive
much sponsorship and very fine loot! May your decals always go on
smoothly and your paint jobs have no cat hairs.

Feel free to email me or use the contact form on the site if you want
to add anything. Enjoy your upcoming gathering!

Sponsor a Military Scale Modeler!
http://www.spousalsponsorship.org/pages/modelmilitary/
Al Superczynski - 02 Aug 2006 04:05 GMT
>The Military Scale Modelers page is completed...

    You really should consider adding the link that I suggested to
Tony's site.
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NiceToScaleModellers - 02 Aug 2006 04:23 GMT
>      You really should consider adding the link that I suggested to
> Tony's site.

I already did. It's under the Tours section. I think his list of
museums and exhibitions is excellent "sponsor" material. Is there
another part of the site you think is good for modeler sponsors (as
opposed to modelers themselves)?

*sigh* BTW, I'm off getting yelled at by the barbecuers now. I do wish
there was some way to start these threads without getting accused of
all sorts of evil intentions. The threads always turn out so well, but
they start off so hostile. I really wish the spammers and the scammers
hadn't made everyone so suspicious and angry.
 
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