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somewildmonkey@yahoo.com - 30 Jul 2006 13:57 GMT
I would like to build a series of spacecraft models and would
appreciate any recommendations for makers/kits of the following:

Mercury Redstone
Gemini Titan
Saturn V
The space shuttle
Lunar module

Also,

Mercury capsule only
Gemini capsule only
Apollo capsule / command module only

I'm open as to what scale.

I've heard that Revell makes some of these kits but when I checked
their website all I could find was the space shuttle.

Thanks!
Val Kraut - 30 Jul 2006 14:48 GMT
<> Mercury Redstone:
Revel had a kit of the Mercury and Gemini Capsules inn1/48th scale that was
released from time to time. Original kit goes back to the 60s. Re-release as
history makers, and other series.

Revell had a 1/92nd of the redstone with pioneer satellite plus workstand.

Revell also had an Atlas and launch stand that they re-released a junior
astronauts version with the mercury capsule.

> Gemini Titan
Revell had the Gemini Capsule mentioned above and a larger one - 1/24th if I
remember right - raeally nice kit - again it was released multiple times and
if memory serves was originall released in 1967.

> Saturn V
1/96th just re-released by Revell. Squadron is sdvertising as pre-sell. Goes
back to late 60s. The main stages are made of flat painted sections you form
into cylinders. Main drawback is it has the Blcok I command and service
Module with a Lunar Module in the SLA. You can buy several upgrades to this.
I don't remember the manufacture's but a web serarch should find them. New
main Engines with thermal wrap, Block II Command Module Update, Saturn V
details.

> The space shuttle
Monogram Kit 1/72. Theres was also a launch tower released some years ago.

> Lunar module
Originally Monogram - Tranquility Base - 1/48th again re-released from time
to time by Revell

> Mercury capsule only
1/48 mentioned above and new really detailed 1/12th by Atomic City /MRC -
should still be available - also detail kit from another manufacturer.

> Gemini capsule only
see above

> Apollo capsule / command module only
Large Monogram kit - re-released by Revell. Had stick on detailed instrument
panel and clear section - Good after market stuff - detailed hatch and
raised detail instrument panel etc.

There's also some resin stuff out there - do a web search.

It would be reallly great if Revell re-released some of the space items
again - especially those that never saw re-release like th XSL and manned
space station kits from the 50s. From time to time someone starts a write in
(email) campaign but it never amount to anything. With the new interest in
going back to the moon and Mars one would hope renewed interest might make
this happen.

                   Hope this helps,

                                                           Val Kraut
Jessie C - 30 Jul 2006 15:57 GMT
> There's also some resin stuff out there - do a web search.

Line this guy:
http://www.realspacemodels.com/

You can get every kit you want here plus many more.

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Wayne C. Morris - 30 Jul 2006 18:13 GMT
> > Gemini Titan
> Revell had the Gemini Capsule mentioned above and a larger one - 1/24th
> if I remember right

You remember correctly.  I have the 1/24 kit waiting to be built.  It
consists of the re-entry capsule and the adapter section immediately
behind/below it.

> > Saturn V
> 1/96th just re-released by Revell. Squadron is sdvertising as pre-sell.
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> should find them. New main Engines with thermal wrap, Block II Command
> Module Update, Saturn V details.

To clarify, each of the main stages consists of two injection molded end
caps and a thin prepainted sheet of styrene.  You curve the sheet into a
tube, glue a detail piece along the seam to cover it and hold it together,
then glue the caps onto the ends.

> > Apollo capsule / command module only
> Large Monogram kit - re-released by Revell. Had stick on detailed
> instrument panel and clear section - Good after market stuff - detailed
> hatch and raised detail instrument panel etc.

1/32 scale, Command and Service Modules, with clear panels on both for a
cutaway interior view.
TB - 30 Jul 2006 19:40 GMT
>> > Apollo capsule / command module only
>> Large Monogram kit - re-released by Revell. Had stick on detailed
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> 1/32 scale, Command and Service Modules, with clear panels on both for a
> cutaway interior view.

There's a much better 1/48 scale CSM available from Realspace Models. Not
only is it even more accurate than the 1/32 kit (which is fairly decent),
it's in scale to the Monogram Lunar Module aka "First Lunar Landing" diorama
kit.

BTW, there's also what looks to be an amazingly accurate and detailed 1/32
scale Lunar Module coming out in '07:

http://www.customreplicas.com/lm.htm

T.B.
genedigennaro@hotmail.com - 31 Jul 2006 02:13 GMT
> I would like to build a series of spacecraft models and would
> appreciate any recommendations for makers/kits of the following:
>
> Mercury Redstone

Estes has a nice flying model in or around 1/35 scale. Looks good and
can be had for about 25 dollars.

> Gemini Titan

Realspace models

> Saturn V

Revell's lousy 1/96 is being re-released as others have said. Try
http://www.ricksternbach.com for tips on improving and/or
scratchbuilding your own. Also there is a paper 1/96 Sat V available on
the web for free that could be used as a basis for a scratchbuilt
Saturn.

> The space shuttle

Aifix ( 1/144 stack), Revell ( 1/144 full stack and orbiter only),
Minicraft(1/144 full stack), Monogram ( 1/72 Orbiter and 1/72 full
stack), Tamiya (1/100 Orbiter), Hasegawa and Lindberg make them 1/200
scale.

AMT's Man in Space Collection was made in the mid 90's and had all
manned US boosters until the shuttle in a constant 1/200 scale. For
about 50 bills, a Hasegawa full stack shuttle and some aftermarket
decals from TangoPapa Decals, you'll a very impressive display. I've
got such a set up on my desk at work and it gets alot of  comments.

> Lunar module

AIrfix 1/72 and Monogram 1/48

> Also,
>
> Mercury capsule only

Revell 1/48

> Gemini capsule only

Revell 1/48 and 1/24 as others have said

> Apollo capsule / command module only

IPI toys makes a very accurate Apollo and LEm which actually scales out
to 1/48. A little detail work and paint would give a very nice inflight
Apollo.

check out http:www.ninfinger.org  lots o' real space info there

Hope this helps,

Gene DiGennaro
Baltimore, Md
Harro de Jong - 09 Aug 2006 09:38 GMT
genedigennaro@hotmail.com wrote in <1154308417.008862.47060
@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:

>Aifix ( 1/144 stack), Revell ( 1/144 full stack and orbiter only),
>Minicraft(1/144 full stack), Monogram ( 1/72 Orbiter and 1/72 full
>stack), Tamiya (1/100 Orbiter), Hasegawa and Lindberg make them 1/200
>scale.

ISTR one of these also contained the crawler (launch platform). Which one
could it be?

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GaryKato@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 03:18 GMT
> I would like to build a series of spacecraft models and would
> appreciate any recommendations for makers/kits of the following:
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>
> Thanks!

There are also paper models. Try http://www.delta7studios.com. They
have Mercury and Gemini capsules.
somewildmonkey@yahoo.com - 31 Jul 2006 03:34 GMT
Thanks, everyone, for all the replies.  I'm going to check into each
suggestion.
Casey Tompkins - 31 Jul 2006 07:17 GMT
>I would like to build a series of spacecraft models and would
>appreciate any recommendations for makers/kits of the following:

First, I'll agree 200% with Jessie C. RealSpaceModels.com
(http://www.realspacemodels.com/) has a fantastic selection in various
scales. Another excellent site is New Ware
(http://mek.kosmo.cz/newware/).

>Mercury Redstone
>Gemini Titan
>Saturn V
>The space shuttle
>Lunar module

By scale (if you prefer a constant scale):

1/144 scale:
RealSpaceModels (RSM) offers the Mercury Redstone and Gemini Titan.
New Ware offers the Mercury Redstone.

Revellogram has released a Shuttle-only model as well as a Shuttle
with external tanks. Both are fairly inexpensive on eBay, The 1/144
Shuttle with tanks -even at 1/144- is a healthy puppy; just the
external tank is 12.5" long. :)

You can find the Revellogram Saturn V for not too much; in fact one
just went on sale starting at $9.95, with $15 shipping. If you like,
I'll email you the link, or post it here. Airfix offers a kit also.

The only 1/144 lunar module I've seen comes with the Revellogram kit.

1/72 scale:
Again, RSM offers the Mercury Redstone and Gemini Titan. The only near
scale for the Saturn V would be the Revell of Germany 1/96 mentioned
by a couple of others.

More Revellogram Shuttles in this scale, although the Shuttle with
external tanks is pretty rare, and usually goes for over $80 on eBay
when you do find it. Not to mention it's freaking HUGE. Considering
the size of the 1/144 tanks (2x12.5' = 25") and how the stack is
contructed, we're probably looking at least 30", from SRB bottom to ET
top. Yikes.

Airfix makes (or used to) a nice 1/72 Lunar Module. Have a couple on
the shelf over here.

1/48 scale
Garage company ATTIC makes kits for both the Mercury Redstone and the
Gemini Titan. Just google them. The Gemini Titan is a full kit, and
seems to sell for around $100 each, The Mercury Redstone requires a
Glencoe Jupiter C and a Revellogram Mercury capsule.

New Ware also offers a mod kit which requires the Glencoe Jupiter C
and Revell/Monogram Mercury.

>Mercury capsule only
>Gemini capsule only
>Apollo capsule / command module only

Again, by scale:
1/72 scale
It should be no surprise that RSM offers these as well. In fact, it's
a single package which includes all three! The Gemini includes the
booster adapter and the Mercury includes the launch escape tower.
Currently going for $60 + shipping.

1/96
Revell released an Apollo/Soyuz kit. RSM offers a complete 1/96 CSM
replacement for the Revell of Germany Saturn V which is much better.

1/48 scale
The Revellogram Mercury and Gemini combo shows up neary every week on
eBay, and maybe once a month for some version of the "Apollo Lunar
Spacecraft." This included the CSM, Lunar Module, and the S-IVb bay
which housed the LM. Considering the going price of this puppy, you'd
probably be better off with the newer RSM offering. While this is
"only" the CSM, the detail and accuracy are outstanding. The RSM CSM
(heh) currently runs $75 + shipping.

1/32
Monogram CSM. Beautiful model (believe it or not, I have four in the
closet) and they show up frequently on eBay. Interior of the command
module is very sparse, as the instrument panels are all flat surfaces
covered with cheesy decals; the only weak point of this kit. But RSM
and New Ware have excellent upgrades for this. I think someone already
mentioned, both the command and service modules include clear panels,

1/24 scale
The now-classic Revell Gemini.

1/12 scale
Atomic City Mercury capsule with full launch tower and retro-pack. My
local  Hobby Lobby has this on the shelf for about $60.

Please note that all Revellogram Apollo capsules (except the 1/32 CSM)
seem to be Block 1, not Block 2 versions. RSM comes to the rescue with
accurate replacements. for the 1/144 and 1/96 (again, the 1/96 would
make an acceptable stand-alone model) Saturn V.

Both the 1/48 and 1/24 Gemini display certain inaccuracies as they
were designed from an older "boilerplate" mockup. Both RSM and New
Ware offer accurizing kits.

Just about all the Revell/Monogram stuff shows up on eBay nearly every
week. The exceptions would be the 1/72 Shuttle with external tank and
boosters, and the 1/48 Apollo craft.

I have two of the 1/144 Saturn V's, and the CSM is pretty cheesy. Not
only is it Block 1, it's not even in scale. The above-mentioned RSM
accurate part is only $25, and very necessary for this kit.

Depending on your more specific goals, you go very far with just the
1/72 stuff, but then I tend to prefer constant scale within a
collection when I can.
somewildmonkey@yahoo.com - 02 Aug 2006 14:43 GMT
Thanks for all the info Casey.

I am interested in doing perhaps one set of the models in the same
scale to show the relative sizes, such as the 1/144 scale you
mentioned.  For the smaller vehicles, I'll probably do one larger scale
as well.

By the way, what sparked my interest to finally move forward with this
plan (which I've had for years now) is an excellent science fiction
book I just finished titled "Titan" by Stephen Baxter.  Stephen Baxter
is an excellent "hard" science fiction author - an aerospace engineer,
I believe.  This book is about a manned mission to Saturn's moon,
Titan, taking place in the 2010 timeframe.  What I really interested
most in the story was how they utilized existing space shuttle
technology and actually revived components from the Apollo moon
launches.  In that respect it was both very nostalgic in one sense, and
yet a bit sad as well.  I highly recommend it to any enthusiasts of the
space program, especially Apollo/Saturn.
Casey Tompkins - 08 Aug 2006 09:32 GMT
Apologies for not following up sooner, somewildmonkey.

If you've followed the links (for those who haven't), you'll find that
both RealSpaceModels and New Ware offer a tremendous variety of 1/144
boosters. If you like, you can add the Little Joe, Mercury Redstone,
Saturn 1, and Saturn 1b to the list, as well as most of the Soviet
stuff, including the legendary Soviet N-1 "moon rocket."

I should add here that AMT/Ertl had a "Man In Space rocket collection"
kit (1/200) which includes the Mercury Redstone, Mercury Atlas, Gemini
Titan, and Saturns 1b and V; all on a single base. The Saturn V is
roughly 20" tall, while the Mercury Redstone is about 4" tall with
escape tower. The latter is a single (very small) solid piece at this
scale. The S-11 interstage for the Saturn V, alas, has the same
blasted 8 ullage rockets as does every other mainstream model, and
they're molded in place, here.

Oddly enough, I've opened two of these kits (third on the shelf,
MSIB), and both included "double" parts for the S-IVb, including the
base of the LEM housing at the top of the S-IVb, the LEM shroud, , the
LEM (natch), CSM, and launch escape tower. Go figure.

Thanks for the heads-up on the Baxter work! I'll keep an eye out.

If you are interested in "reality based" kits, you might be interested
in the stuff Sharkit puts out:
http://renax.club.fr/sharkit/nerva/nerva.htm
They've released a 1/72 NERVA engine kit as well as an H2 propellant
tank. The latter looks like a double-length S-IVb to me. :) Apparently
the kit is based on a 1972 Von Braun design.

Although they haven't released any kits (yet), Space Models Systems,
Inc. bears watching
http://www.spacemodelsystems.com/spckits.html

Their first two prospective kits will be a 1/48 Chesley
Bonestell-based moon lander, and a 1/144 Rick Sternbach "Solar System
Explorer," based on "the truss structure concept of the International
Space Station," to which are attached three nuclear thermal rocket
engines. The company doesn't say so, but I suspect they're referring
to NERVA-style engines as well. :)

Sigh. If I only had the money. And the time. And the *room*...

heh.

>Thanks for all the info Casey.
>
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>yet a bit sad as well.  I highly recommend it to any enthusiasts of the
>space program, especially Apollo/Saturn.
The Collector - 09 Aug 2006 22:15 GMT
Just thought I'd add this since no one mentioned it yet.

Apogee Rockets manufactures 1/70 scale Saturn 1B and Saturn V kits.
Although they can be flown, they are also detailed enough for static
display.  I saw the completed Saturn 1B kit at last months IPMS chapter
meeting and it really looked good.  The Boost Protective Cover on the
Command Module even looked correct.  The Saturn 1B kit also comes with
H-1 engine bells for display.  If you're interested in large scale
Apollo Saturns, then you should really give these kits a look.

http://www.apogeerockets.com/Saturn_1B.asp
http://www.apogeerockets.com/Saturn5.asp

Martin
genedigennaro@hotmail.com - 11 Aug 2006 01:10 GMT
> Just thought I'd add this since no one mentioned it yet.
>
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>
> Martin

Of course if you like 'em big these are for you!  Oh and the model
posing with the model is quite pleasing to the eye too!

http://cgi.ebay.com/HUGE-1-48-Scale-Saturn-V-flying-model-rocket-kit_W0QQitemZ19
0016579739QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2567QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/HUGE-1-30-Scale-Little-Joe-II-flying-model-rocket-kit_W0QQit
emZ190019046320QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2567QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/HUGE-1-48-Scale-Saturn-1B-flying-model-rocket-kit_W0QQitemZ1
90018677598QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2567QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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