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Filling jet canopy seam how?

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varois83 - 04 Aug 2006 20:14 GMT
Hi

I am still in the search for a good technique in order to fill gaps
between my canopies and jet fuselage.
I was using squadron putty but wasn't happy with the results around the
canopy, I would just make a mess.
I was recently told to use Elmer white glue, so I did and after a small
application in the seam around my masked canopy and fuselage it looked
good but the seam was still there, so I put more glue and this
technique showed its limit as if you put too much it doesn't sand at
all.
Thank god it removes easily, I took it all off with twizers. So I am
back to square one on my Heller 1/72 Mirage 2000 C.
I have been searching the web today for some other techniques and read
about using Mr Surfacer which I am pretty sure I have seen at Hobbytown
USA here in Atlanta which is my closest hobby store.
Has anyone used it for that purpose of filling canopies seams as it is
really a primer ?
It comes in a spray can or regular bottle in 500, 1000 and 1200. I
think 500 is coarser and better for seams.
Do you let it dry then sand it? Does it dry clear ?

Anything will help, thanks in advance

patrick

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Enzo Matrix - 04 Aug 2006 20:41 GMT
> Hi
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> Anything will help, thanks in advance

Use Milliput.

Mix up a small batch and add a small amount of water. Make sure that the
clear sections of the canopy are masked and then fill the seams. As soon as
you have filled them, get a Babybud ( Q-tip ) and make sure that the end is
soaked in water. Use the end in a sanding motion to "sand" the excess
Milliput from the seam. This should leave the Milliput flush with the
external surface. Leave the Milliput to dry. It will then shrink slightly
and leave a slightly sunken panel line around the canopy. Once the Milliput
is dry, finish off with a gentle sanding with a fine grade of wet-and-dry to
ensure that there is no excess Milliput.

It works for me.  Hope this helps.

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Jessie C - 05 Aug 2006 00:03 GMT
> I am still in the search for a good technique in order to fill gaps
> between my canopies and jet fuselage.

I use plain old white glue, Elmer's or Lepages for example. It won't craze
the plastic and easily cleans up with a bit of water. It can be coaxed
into place when it's wet and the excess cleaned up by a swipe of a moist
Q-tip. All in all, it's nearly as useful a modelling compound as Future
although you shouldn't put it on your floors.

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Jessie C - 05 Aug 2006 22:18 GMT
> I use plain old white glue

...and I posted that before I read your problems with said white glue.
D'hoh!
varois83 - 06 Aug 2006 14:11 GMT
Thanks to all, plenty of help, I really appreciate it.

Patrick
Rufus - 05 Aug 2006 00:25 GMT
> Hi
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> CC: www.hyperscale.com

I like Tamiya putty - but ht e real trick with sanding the putty is to
mask the canopy as you would for painting before you start sanding.
Tamiya putty is very fine grained, set quickly, and sands easily.

Mask the canopy to protect the clear portion of it while sanding - then
go ahead and sand the fuselage and frame at the join; but still take
care not to sand through the mask.

I always remove the tape after sanding and re-mask pefore I paint. That
way I get to see if I'm satisfied with the sanding job, and I'm
confident the mask is good for paint.

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Norm Filer - 05 Aug 2006 00:51 GMT
I would agree with the masking and using something like A & B or Milliput
with water to smooth it out.

But the all time best product of that type is Apoxie Sculpt.  Looks much
like the others and works exactly the same way, knead two equal sized
amounts together until uniform color, then apply like clay, then feather out
the material with water.

The big advantage is while A &B and Milliput tend to get really rock hard
when dry, Apoxie Sculpt has the hardness and consistency of the surrounding
plastic.  And it scribes just like styrene.  Great stuff!!

http://www.avesstudio.com/Products/Apoxie_Sculpt/apoxie_sculpt.html

One of their little card mounted blister packs provides enough material for
the rest of your life and their web based ordering service is great.

Norm
Kevin(Bluey) - 05 Aug 2006 01:56 GMT
>> Hi
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> way I get to see if I'm satisfied with the sanding job, and I'm
> confident the mask is good for paint.

Tamiya putty can be wet sanded with nail polish remover ,just wet a
cotton bud in the nail polish remover and gently wipe it across the
putty to smooth it .
You won't lose any detail this way .
Even after the putty has dried it works .

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Rufus - 05 Aug 2006 02:03 GMT
>>> Hi
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> You won't lose any detail this way .
> Even after the putty has dried it works .

But be careful, though...most nail polish removers are laquer based, and
if that creeps under your tape job...

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