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Hasegawa 1/32 F-18

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ppp@yahoo.com - 20 Aug 2006 14:04 GMT
Got one at a swap meet complete with resin parts, photoetch and decal
extras.  Will want to do the Canadian AF version.  The wings and
tailplane leading edges are notched.  Do I remove material or do I
build up the LE to get a straight edge?  I am not a rivet counter and
I think the other parts will look ok without modification.  The LEs
are too obvious.
Rufus - 20 Aug 2006 16:30 GMT
> Got one at a swap meet complete with resin parts, photoetch and decal
> extras.  Will want to do the Canadian AF version.  The wings and
> tailplane leading edges are notched.  Do I remove material or do I
> build up the LE to get a straight edge?  I am not a rivet counter and
> I think the other parts will look ok without modification.  The LEs
> are too obvious.

Get hold of a copy of the first volume on the Hornet from Detail and
Scale - in the back is a portion dedicated to how to convert the
Hasagawa kit into a Production representative F/A-18A.

I have one too...the landing gear need to be totally scratch built to
look right.  Other than that, it's not bad for it's age.  The Academy
kits are the Cadillacs.

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ppp@yahoo.com - 21 Aug 2006 00:15 GMT
>> Got one at a swap meet complete with resin parts, photoetch and decal
>> extras.  Will want to do the Canadian AF version.  The wings and
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>Scale - in the back is a portion dedicated to how to convert the
>Hasagawa kit into a Production representative F/A-18A.

I don't have easy access to that.  Can you remember what modification
was recommended?  Close enough is good enough for me.

>I have one too...the landing gear need to be totally scratch built to
>look right.  Other than that, it's not bad for it's age.  The Academy
>kits are the Cadillacs.

I was wondering what the resin U/C was for?
Rufus - 21 Aug 2006 01:25 GMT
>>>Got one at a swap meet complete with resin parts, photoetch and decal
>>>extras.  Will want to do the Canadian AF version.  The wings and
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> I don't have easy access to that.  Can you remember what modification
> was recommended?  Close enough is good enough for me.

I highly recommend that you get hold of a copy - mail order or
otherwise.  It's a fine reference.

You'll need to cut back the wing leading edge per the diagram, fill the
snag on the stabs, extend the ailerons and fill in the gaps over the
LEXs - and that's just for starters.  The seats are different on CAF
jets as well.  And if you plan to do one of the newly re-maned A+ ones,
you've got a bit further research to do.

>>I have one too...the landing gear need to be totally scratch built to
>>look right.  Other than that, it's not bad for it's age.  The Academy
>>kits are the Cadillacs.
>
> I was wondering what the resin U/C was for?

Resin undercarriage?...didn't know there was one - was planning on maybe
casting the parts from my Academy kits or using them as examples to
scratchbuild a set of gear; hope the mains are wire reinforced.  I have
most of the resin from Paragon - seat, pylons, LEX Fences, TFLIR,
etc...and a set of rubber tires that were packaged with a Revell F-14A
I'm working on that are actually for the 1/32 Hornet kit.

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ppp@yahoo.com - 21 Aug 2006 07:26 GMT
>I highly recommend that you get hold of a copy - mail order or
>otherwise.  It's a fine reference.
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>etc...and a set of rubber tires that were packaged with a Revell F-14A
>I'm working on that are actually for the 1/32 Hornet kit.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I took a good look at
the kit again.  The (late) guy did his research well and I have all
the documentation and parts needed for the  RCAF F-18.  Previously I
took a quick look and the details were lost in a mass of very small
print all over the poor reproduction of the instruction sheet (from
one too many photocopies of photocpies).   Your description told me
what to look for.

There is a resin wheel set but no  resin undercarriage legs.  I was
wrong about the u/c legs.  The resin wheels don't look any different
from the plastic sprue's except for the slight bulge from under
inflation.  The plastic u/c legs look okay to me.  Perhaps you are
right about these legs needing reinforcement.  One leg each of my
Revel 1/32 F-15, Mig 21 had snapped and I haven't got around tpo
fixing them yet.
Al Superczynski - 21 Aug 2006 10:47 GMT
>...I have all the documentation and parts needed for the  RCAF F-18.  

    I'm not entirely sure why you want to go through all that effort
instead of just using the far superior Academy kit unless it's a
matter of money.  If not, why not build the Hasegawa kit as intended,
as the prototype?  You could still use lots of the resin parts you
have to help detail it.

>The plastic u/c legs look okay to me.  Perhaps you are
>right about these legs needing reinforcement.

    It's not that they're weak - they're inaccurate.  Try getting the
main gear legs from a Revell Hornet to help them out some.

    All of this is covered in the Detail in Scale book Rufus
recommended and I concur with his recommendation whether or not you do
the conversion.  It's invaluable reference material for building the
Hasegawa kit.
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ppp@yahoo.com - 21 Aug 2006 16:18 GMT
>  I'm not entirely sure why you want to go through all that effort
>instead of just using the far superior Academy kit unless it's a
>matter of money.  If not, why not build the Hasegawa kit as intended,
>as the prototype?  You could still use lots of the resin parts you
>have to help detail it.

Would you believe I paid just $20 for everything that came with the
box?  I don't intend to spend a cent more but will use everything
there.  I have the 1/48 Monogram F-18 and will be able to figure out
if the UC is within my ability to duplicate on the Hasegawa.  As I
said I am not a rivet counter.  Until you guys told me about the
Hasegawa kits shortcomings I had no idea and that wouldn't have
disturbed my sleep one bit.

I have more than enough kits stashed in my basement to last me another
20 years. I hope I can finish them before I join the former F-18 kit's
owner in that great big modelling club in the sky.  My current
modelling objectives are to pose my finished armor kits in diaromas.
The dozen dioramas I have done has given me far more pleasure than
building the kits themselves.  The other objective is to RC motorize
the ship kits I have, also from swap sales.
Rufus - 21 Aug 2006 19:49 GMT
>>I highly recommend that you get hold of a copy - mail order or
>>otherwise.  It's a fine reference.
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> Revel 1/32 F-15, Mig 21 had snapped and I haven't got around tpo
> fixing them yet.

The kit gear are a bit too slim...and missing a good amount of detail.
As I recall, the nose gear is better than the mains, but that's the case
with most early Hornet kits other than the 1/48 Monogram.

There should be no bulge in the tires - they run at 200 psi ashore, and
300 psi afloat...they don't bulge.

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frank - 25 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT
Who came up with that bulging ire crap anyway? Had they only seen
underinflated tires on a/c before?

> >>I highly recommend that you get hold of a copy - mail order or
> >>otherwise.  It's a fine reference.
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> There should be no bulge in the tires - they run at 200 psi ashore, and
> 300 psi afloat...they don't bulge.
The Collector - 25 Aug 2006 04:27 GMT
> Who came up with that bulging ire crap anyway? Had they only seen
> underinflated tires on a/c before?

I gotta agree with Frank.  I'm a volunteer at an air museum
(www.wingsmuseum.org) and post-WW II jets do not have bulging tires.
Flat bottoms yes, but no significant bulging.  Even our older aircraft
like the B-18 and Corsair don't show any really noticeable tire bulges.
I'm afraid these 1/1 scale items wouldn't even place or show at IPMS
Nats with these inaccurate tires.

;^)

Martin
frank - 25 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT
Who came up with that bulging tire crap anyway? Had they only seen
underinflated tires on a/c before?

> >>I highly recommend that you get hold of a copy - mail order or
> >>otherwise.  It's a fine reference.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> There should be no bulge in the tires - they run at 200 psi ashore, and
> 300 psi afloat...they don't bulge.
Don McIntyre - 25 Aug 2006 14:26 GMT
> Got one at a swap meet complete with resin parts, photoetch and decal
> extras.  Will want to do the Canadian AF version.  The wings and
> tailplane leading edges are notched.  Do I remove material or do I
> build up the LE to get a straight edge?  I am not a rivet counter and
> I think the other parts will look ok without modification.  The LEs
> are too obvious.

Planning on doing mine as the Prototype. Will any of the current
aftermarket bits work for the prototype, or should I just stick with
the kit bits, I'm oprimarily thinking of the cockpit & seat.
Rufus - 25 Aug 2006 16:59 GMT
>>Got one at a swap meet complete with resin parts, photoetch and decal
>>extras.  Will want to do the Canadian AF version.  The wings and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> aftermarket bits work for the prototype, or should I just stick with
> the kit bits, I'm oprimarily thinking of the cockpit & seat.

Build it out of the box, then...with the exception of the landing gear.
 They need a lot of work.  Use one of the nicer 1/48 scale kits as a
guide - Monograms gear are nice enough.

Getting a nice SJU-5 resin seat wouldn't be a bad move, but not a must.

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