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Model Forum / General / Models / December 2006Best plane seen flying
My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford and would up staff at Cosford about it! Which is what??? > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford > and would up staff at Cosford about it! > Which is what??? A cancelled supersonic bomber programme. http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/tsr2/history.html (kim) > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford > and would up staff at Cosford about it! Getting it up in the air was no big deal. Getting it down again in one piece was the problem :o) (kim) >kim wrote: > > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Getting it up in the air was no big deal. Getting it down again in one piece > was the problem :o) Didn't Finescale do a kit review of the TSR.2 recently ? Airfix 1/72 scale I do believe. Probably a hard to find kit now that Airfix is belly up ? Would be neat to have this model in a display case. What is that ? Exotic looking. I bet when that thing was going supersonic it would take an area the size of Montana to turn around in. Must have been some serious wing-loading. Chris Almost a tossup for me, but.... The F 105's that did repeated low level supersonic flights over the airfield at Rome AFB in 69 or 70 when I was a kid. The F 104's, and F 4C's, even the F 111, did a right nice job too.... But the F 105's were the most impressive for me. We all went home a little deaf that day :) AM Martin said the following on 01/12/06 12:54: > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford > and would up staff at Cosford about it! I must admit it was sweet seeing Concorde appear behind us, move slowly alongside and slowly pull away as we were in a VC10 out of Brize when Concorde was doing air tests out of Fairford for a while. Richard.  Signature"Naturally the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country." Reichsmarshall Herman Goering, Nuremberg, 1946 > Martin said the following on 01/12/06 12:54: > > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Richard. I drove up to Harrisburg when one was there doing charters. As he was leaving the pilot made a return over the runway with a fancy pullup. She looked like a four-engined fighter that morning. Also up at Harrisburg for one of their air shows, I was very impressed with the Nimrod pulling tight turns, standing on one wingtip or the other. One doesn't expect that out of an aircraft whose ancestors started life as cattle haulers. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Mad-Modeller said the following on 02/12/06 07:59: >> Martin said the following on 01/12/06 12:54: >>> My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. I know what you mean! Having got used to seeing B47s take off at sharp angles out of Brize using RATOs, it was an incredible sight to see a Vulcan, on a visit leave there at the same angle of attack with no large clouds of vapour and thunderous noise go straight up into the cloudbase. It had us kids talking about it for ages as we'd never seen that before. Richard. Signature"Naturally the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country." Reichsmarshall Herman Goering, Nuremberg, 1946 >>I must admit it was sweet seeing Concorde appear behind us, move slowly >>alongside and slowly pull away as we were in a VC10 out of Brize when >>Concorde was doing air tests out of Fairford for a while. I think Concorde is my best I saw the Concorde flying over Stewart here in the Hudson Valley in New York. This was some time after they completed the runway extention there. They were doing ''touch -n- go'' with the plane we had read that Stewart was going to be an emergency site for landing the Concorde. What a truly beautiful plane it was , so sleek and with those big wide wings it was a truly awesome site. The other egually beautiful craft that i've seen here was the B-2 Bomber. One flew overhead while one was on display on the ground. I still say they just took the best parts of the original ''Flying Wing'' and painted it black. Damn , I have to say it that is one really KewL looking Airplane.. They should really give one to Bat Man because it looks like a Big Black Bat. ... Carl .......... . Rama-Lama-BIG-BORG ; BORG TEMPLE N.Y. 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They were doing ''touch -n- go'' with the plane we had read > that Stewart was going to be an emergency site for landing the Concorde. > ..and *is* an alternate site for the space shuttle. A couple of years ago, while they were playing war games at West Point, two A-10s flew low over my house. They were ground hugging over the hills and through the valleys. I was out in my back yard and heard something coming fast. They suddenly popped up from one valley, flew about 300' high over my house, and disappeared down into another valley. I ran into the house and got my camera and waited for them to come back, but they never did. > What a truly beautiful plane it was , so sleek and with those big wide > wings it was a truly awesome site. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > SignatureBill in Hamptonburgh, NY To email, delete the double zeroes after @ The Convair B36 in the fifties. Cool and loud. They flew over our house at Davis Monthan AFB in Tuscon, Az. on a regular basis. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Sacramento Ca Too close for missiles........switching to guns. > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and > Cosford and would up staff at Cosford about it! I'm a little unsure of the reception I'll get with this. I didn't see the aircraft flying, just taxying at Dhahran in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War. It looked a bit like a larger version of the Have Blue technology demonstrator, but it was very smooth rather than faceted. The twin tails were canted inward. It was somewhat like the Italeri F-19 kit, but the wingspan seemed to be greater than the length. There appeared to be no markings of any sort. The aircraft was painted a medium grey, rather than the black that I would have expected. It was very quiet, but it *was* a jet - it didn't have some exotic science-fiction power source! Make of that what you will. Incidentally, I first saw the F-117 a year or so before it was declassified. Two of them took part in Exercise Maple Flag at CFB Cold Lake in 1988. They were also painted medium grey. They were never sat out on the line and every time they taxied to and from their hangar they had an escort of several vehicles filled with armed troops! The jet I saw in Dhahran had no such escort. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > Incidentally, I first saw the F-117 a year or so before it was > declassified. Two of them took part in Exercise Maple Flag at CFB Cold > Lake in 1988. They were also painted medium grey. They were never sat out > on the line and every time they taxied to and from their hangar they had > an escort of several vehicles filled with armed troops! The jet I saw in > Dhahran had no such escort. Hey Enzo wow small world I to was at Maple Flag @ Cold Lake that year, IIRC it was May, I was part of the 1st TFW 94TFS out of Langley AFB, we had a bad incident that year one of our jets threw a turbine blade right out the compressor section on take off, he had just raised the nose when it blew thankfully his hook caught the over run cable otherwise he would have run off the runway, really messes that bird up >> Incidentally, I first saw the F-117 a year or so before it was >> declassified. Two of them took part in Exercise Maple Flag at CFB [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > cable otherwise he would have run off the runway, really messes that > bird up I remember the incident! We were told that the runway had been blacked, so we scrubbed flying for the day and all stood down. It allowed us to get ratfaced in the CanEx, which for us was the main aim of these detachments! :-D Did you get to see the F-117s? I think the aircraft that drew the most attention was the VC-10 tanker that arrived at the end of the det to accompany our Harriers back home. I must admit that in its lo-vis hemp colour scheme it looked quite the business. As it taxied in, it drew a large crowd who had never seen the like before! Many people thought that it was the latest thing that the RAF had got, and were surprised to learn that they had been in service for 23 years (at that time). They were even more surprised when told that the tanker was actually faster than the jets that it was supporting! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. snip > I remember the incident! We were told that the runway had been blacked, > so we scrubbed flying for the day and all stood down. It allowed us to get [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > years (at that time). They were even more surprised when told that the > tanker was actually faster than the jets that it was supporting! never got the chance to see the 117s I do remember the Harriers thought wish I had gotten some picts of them sighhhh spent much of my time off post down town sure have some great memories of that place nice people up there, and man the fishing was awesome > snip >> I remember the incident! We were told that the runway had been [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > time off post down town sure have some great memories of that place > nice people up there, and man the fishing was awesome I spent a lot of time offcamp as well. I also have some great memories of that det, most of which revolve around one of the waitresses in a hotel bar... but that's another story entirely unconnected with aircraft modelling! ;-) SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >> snip >>> I remember the incident! We were told that the runway had been [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >bar... but that's another story entirely unconnected with aircraft >modelling! ;-) depends on how well she took off.... (couldn't resist) > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford > and would up staff at Cosford about it! Define "best"... Signature- Rufus > > My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford > > and would up staff at Cosford about it! > > Define "best"... Exactly. For me, it's a tossup between a B-25 and a B-17, both of which have been to recent airshows here. Bad weather grounded the P-40 that was scheduled to be here 2 years ago. >:^( But then, I've never seen a B-24 nor a B-29 aloft ... -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that) >>>My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford >>>and would up staff at Cosford about it! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > C.R. Krieger > (Been there; done that) Let's see...on the wing and/or up close and personal in flying/fighting form I've seen - AT-6, P-38, P-40, F3F, P-51, B-17, B-24, B-25, B-29, A-26, B-2, F-86, Mig-15, T-38, F-4, F-20, F-14, F-15, F-16, F/A-18, F-111, F-117, A-10, F/A-22, U-2, S-3, EA6B, A-6, A-7, A3D, AV8B, Hunter, Toronado, Eurofighter, Jaguar, Gemini...and that's only the ones I can recall off the top of my head...oh well, you get the picture... ...about the only thing I haven't seen flying that I want to is an SR-71. I keep missing those for some reason. But I'd still be hard pressed to call any one of them the "best". That's just not a word I use in describing aircraft anymore. Signature- Rufus The B-2 and Nighthawk flying low over my house which is just a mile from the Air Force Academy (fly over before a Navy football game at Air Force) (:> I have to put in a toss-up for my choices. When I was a kid in Sausalito in the fifties we had bomb drills once a month. We walked a quarter mile to the main street where buses would pick us up in case of an actual attack. On one of those drills a flight of B-36s roared overhead. I was the only one thrilled to see these beautiful giants pass over, everyone else, including the teachers, were spooked. They thought that it meant an actual attack was taking place. The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes that could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most elegant. Never saw one fly except n films, but the DH Albatross was another design that has to be at the top of the lst. Tom > The B-2 and Nighthawk flying low over my house which is just a mile > from the Air Force Academy (fly over before a Navy football game at Air > Force) (:> > The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes that > could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most > elegant. They always made the strangest noise. It was sort of a deep hollow whistle, like blowing across the top of an empty beer bottle. Oddly enough the F-15s that fly over my house every day make a similar sound. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes that >>could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Oddly enough the F-15s that fly over my house every day make a similar > sound. So do Harriers, EA6Bs and S-3s... Signature- Rufus >>> The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes that >>> could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > So do Harriers, EA6Bs and S-3s... And TA-4s on the deck at idle. Signature- Rufus >>> The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes >>> that could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > So do Harriers, EA6Bs and S-3s... The whistle from the Harrier is due to the bearing at the front of the engine. It produces a very high frequency noise which can easily damage hearing. During the late '80s, ground crew on RAF Harrier squadrons were issued with slimline ear defenders that would fit under a kevlar helmet. Unfortunately those ear defenders were intended to protect against the sound of gunfire, not high frequency aircraft noise. When the problem came to light after 18 months or so, those ear defenders were hurriedly withdrawn, but the damage was done. Many ex-Harrier groundcrew from that time have hearing damage. I certainly do and I receive a "war pension" for it. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>>>The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes >>>>that could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > was done. Many ex-Harrier groundcrew from that time have hearing damage. I > certainly do and I receive a "war pension" for it. I always thougt it was from the Aux Air inlet doors...at least on the AV8B. What I used to hear during four years on the line with them certainly wasn't bearing noise...it was too directional. It was definitely aero-acoustic noise. Signature- Rufus > >>> The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes > >>> that could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. I can well understand. I've seen several Harrier demos at air shows and when they're in hover one doesn't hear anything else. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > >> The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You have to remove all those empty beer bottles off your outdoor furniture. :-) SignatureBill in Hamptonburgh, NY To email, delete the double zeroes after @ > > The other would be the F-104. While there are a lot of airplanes that > > could be described as beautiful, the F-104 is, by far, the most > > elegant. > > They always made the strangest noise. It was sort of a deep hollow whistle, > like blowing across the top of an empty beer bottle. It was the hollow fuselage extension which accounted for the noise. That was never part of the original design. The air also stank of kerosene after a flypast. One of my dad's practical jokes was to arrange for a Dutch F-104 to make a low high-speed pass over my house to get me out of bed in the mornings. (kim) >>>>My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford >>>>and would up staff at Cosford about it! [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >pressed to call any one of them the "best". That's just not a word I >use in describing aircraft anymore. mine was the bob flight. it was before they found the missing turret, but the lanc still blew me away. the 6 merlins were awesome. >>>>>My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and Cosford >>>>>and would up staff at Cosford about it! [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > missing turret, but the lanc still blew me away. the 6 > merlins were awesome. Cold, snowy, and wet here in Chi-ville...remembering why I moved. Have yet to get to Al's Hobby - sometime next week, maybe. Signature- Rufus >>>>>>My dad saw XR219 during its flight tests, he has been to Duxford and > Cosford [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Have yet to get to Al's Hobby - sometime next week, maybe. grab the lindberg german's for me, ok? cold, unseasonably here. dry and sunny but this ain't my weather. feeling better? >>Cold, snowy, and wet here in Chi-ville...remembering why I moved. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > weather. > feeling better? Still a bit weak... and going through a bit of pednizone withdrawal. I've got the feeling back in my feet and hands, but I've been getting afternoon migraines - fortunately they don't seem to last too long. I can make it though about 2/3 of a day before I need to recharge now. But a 1/2 hour of shoveling snow today sapped me for the afternoon. Signature- Rufus >>>Cold, snowy, and wet here in Chi-ville...remembering why I moved. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >But a 1/2 hour of shoveling snow today sapped me for the afternoon. i think i won't take that stuff unless it's life or death. snow? oh yeah, that white stuff. you anywhere near berwyn? my gram lived there, on south ridgeland ave. >>>>Cold, snowy, and wet here in Chi-ville...remembering why I moved. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > you anywhere near berwyn? my gram lived there, on south > ridgeland ave. BERWYN?!?!?...sorry, had a Svengoolie flashback...yeah, Wheaton is maybe about 20 miles west of there, by Mapquest guess. We don't really get snow in the midwest...we get white mud. Mountain snow is much preferrable. At least it's dry. You don't get as cold when the snow's not wet. Signature- Rufus >>>>>Cold, snowy, and wet here in Chi-ville...remembering why I moved. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >snow is much preferrable. At least it's dry. You don't get as cold >when the snow's not wet. new england gets all the kinds of snow. the dry ice to the white mush. and i hate it all. i had been known to hit the stores, stock up and then stay inside for 2-3 weeks, did a lot of kits then. you been building while you heal? >>>>>grab the lindberg german's for me, ok? >>>>>cold, unseasonably here. dry and sunny but this ain't my [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > did a lot of kits then. > you been building while you heal? No - I dare not touch a model right now. Still coming down from teh prednizone, and I've got shakes and tremors still in my hands, although I can hold a pen again. Woke up this morning with muscle aches all over, but that may be because I've been up and around (shoveled snow yesterday) and it's finally catching up with me. But I've also ben getting migraines about 2-3 times a day - never had those before. Avoid prednizone if you can. Going to try and stay active today - maybe buy another guitar... Signature- Rufus >>>>>>grab the lindberg german's for me, ok? >>>>>>cold, unseasonably here. dry and sunny but this ain't my [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >Going to try and stay active today - maybe buy another guitar... take a poor kid out and buy him a toy. >>>new england gets all the kinds of snow. the dry ice to the >>>white mush. and i hate it all. i had been known to hit the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > take a poor kid out and buy him a toy. ...didn't even get out myself. Still fighting yesterday's muscle aches. Signature- Rufus >>>>new england gets all the kinds of snow. the dry ice to the >>>>white mush. and i hate it all. i had been known to hit the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >....didn't even get out myself. Still fighting yesterday's muscle aches. no fun. >>Define "best"... Use your definition! >>>Define "best"... > > Use your definition! That's the point..."best" is sort of meaningless from my viewpoint. I like 'em ALL. Signature- Rufus Hmmm. Mosquito at Old Warden - only slow passes, but Ah! De Havilland! Missing Man formation of Spitfires flown at the IAT at Greenham Common for Douglas Bader A Vulcan, in the valley, below me. One of the rarest, to me, was the B-66 that passed over our high school back around '65 or '66. We were in the middle of a ball game and I was stuck out in the outfield where I couldn't screw up anything. Out of the west comes this familiar shape (heck, I'd built the Monogram kit) and I can't believe I'm seeing it that close. I could read the "U.S. AIR FORCE" down the side of the nose. It seems that someone got out and the innings changed whilst I was in my reverie. I took a lot of crap from the gym teacher about being inattentive but I figure I had my priorities straighter than he. I never saw another B-66 but baseball goes on and on and on...... Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Sadly I'd forgotten about our old lady, the Avro Lancaster. When I was a kid at Carterton County Primary School I remember we were in the hall singing "Sur La Pont" when this sound got louder and louder then out of the large hall windows we were treated to the sight of the back end of the Lanc as it flew over us and low over the trees and hedges. Richard. Signature"Naturally the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country." Reichsmarshall Herman Goering, Nuremberg, 1946 |
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