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Model Forum / General / Models / December 20062007 Wish List
So... what is your wish list for 2007? Here's mine. Kits: I'm desperately trying to reduce my stash, so I'll deliberately reduce my kit buying in 2007 (he says hopefully). I've formulated some ridiculously complex rules to ascertain whether or not I can buy a kit. But I would like EE Lightning. A series of modern quality Lightnings in 1/72 would be nice. Maybe from MPM to a similar standard as their Meteor. Sea Vixen: Again in 1/72. Early and late mark Hunters: Revell introduced the Hunter F6 in 1/72, which is a very nice kit. It has sprues which seem to have been designed to allow a late tailcone and photo nose, to give us the FGA9 and FR10 variants. I'm surprised that Revell hasn't already done this. Addition of an early tailcone and wing leading edge would give us early marks. Come on, Revell... you know you want to! Resin: Hunter: Failing Revell giving us early and late mark Hunters, they seem ideal subjects for a resin conversion kit from someone like CMK or Pavla. Meteor: Using the new MPM kit, how about a conversion kit for the Meteor F4? It would require a new tail and canopy. A conversion to the T7 would be a little more involved, with a new fuselage, or maybe just a nose and tail. Spitfire: In 1/48, how about a set to convert the Hasegawa IX to a Griffon engined XIV or XIX? It would require a new nose, airscrew, tail and radiators. I know that there is a kit from Academy, but the fuselage and wing root is too deep and the wing doesn't have the subtle twist that a Spitfire wing should. A conversion for the Hasegawa kit could use the lovely wing and would solve the length problems of the IX fuselage. I'd also like an early Griffon nose, maybe from MDC. Then it could be grafted on to a Tamiya MkV, using the MDC Vc wings to produce a Spitfire XII. A modicum of scratchbuilding could produce a Seafire XV... So... what's *your* wish list?  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > So... what's *your* wish list? My usual request in 1/32 from Trumpeter - Mig-23, Su-22, and P-61. If I could get any or all of those, I'd be a happy modeler. Signature- Rufus My wish list is: Spitfire Mk IX and XIV Westland Whirlwind Fighter Defiant Gladiator Swordfish Fairey Fulmar Tempest V Sea Fury Sea Hornet Meteor Mk IV, VII and VIII Blenheim Mk I and IV Beaufort Thunderjet Vindicator Devastator Helldiver Kate Val Judy Boomerang All in 1:32 scale, modern injectionmoulded kit at resonable prises. Something like the Hasegawa/Revell cooperation of recent times. SignatureClaus Gustafsen Strandby Denmark mail me at claus@gustafsen.nu See my modeling at www.gustafsen.nu >> So... what is your wish list for 2007? >> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > If I could get any or all of those, I'd be a happy modeler. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at få 2465 spam-mails Betalende brugere får ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent en gratis SPAMfighter her. >> So... what is your wish list for 2007? >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > If I could get any or all of those, I'd be a happy modeler. Oh god yes..........a 1/32 Mig 23MLD.......would get a BIG thumbs up from me! even a decent 1/48 would be nice. >So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >So... what's *your* wish list? a 1/48 triple tail manchester. even if it's trumpeter. I'd really like to see a 1:35 injection molded C-47 and WACO Glider. The diorama possibilities are endless! Hawkeye Mine is easy. I want to improve my modeling skill and have more time to build the kits I already have (:> My wish list for 2007 is simple and as short as can be - no new kits please ... just enough time to work on the ones I have stashed on my shelf ... you know, the ones that have been there for about 7 years now waiting for me to have the time to work on them the way I would like to. SignatureRick Piatt > So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > So... what's *your* wish list? > ... just enough time to work on the ones I have stashed on my shelf ... you Hehe, that was my initial reaction too. All I really need is time... Rob Well, aside from a Hudson from anywhere in 1949-54 and a 1/144th B-45, I'd like to actually build something once. And then of course, I want world peace. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. :) >Well, aside from a Hudson from anywhere in 1949-54 and a 1/144th B-45, >I'd like to actually build something once. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >:) plus you love your momma and elvis. PLUS , A Big Niggers Cock in my Mouth ! Oh Yeah Baby ! e I see your pest is back. :( Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >I see your pest is back. :( > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. it's angry because it's behavior is being analysed and predicted. we are waiting for it's dry dive. wheeee! >PLUS , A Big Niggers Cock in my Mouth ! >Oh Yeah Baby ! > >e as predicted, mjolner has another psychotic episode. poor pathetic boob. Characters like that are the best argument FOR abortion I know of! Bill Shuey > >PLUS , A Big Niggers Cock in my Mouth ! > >Oh Yeah Baby ! > > > >e > as predicted, mjolner has another psychotic episode. > poor pathetic boob. >Characters like that are the best argument FOR abortion I know of! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> as predicted, mjolner has another psychotic episode. >> poor pathetic boob. ignore it. imagine how much it sucks being that garbage. > Characters like that are the best argument FOR abortion I know of! > > Bill Shuey > My views on abortion are: Pro choice. Mandatory in some cases. Retroactive in some others. :-) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> poor pathetic boob. >> SignatureBill in Hamptonburgh, NY To email, delete the double zeroes after @ > So... what is your wish list for 2007? 1/32 Aircraft Deck Tractor WWII 1/32 Raiden 1/32 Airacobra 1/32 Figures for all the 1/32 Aircraft out there . Without the old Revell style of pilots with their arms fused to their legs. What about flight crews, pilots getting in/out of cockpits, etc... More 1/35 WWII British figures Model 299 B-17 Any kit w/o all the *(#&*$&#((!!! resin and PE. Craig My want would be a 1/32 PT-17 Stearman. Just think of all the modifications you coulkd do. Stan Parker >> So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Craig Just a HMS Manchester - WWII cruiser. At least for now.... >> So... what is your wish list for 2007? > > snip> > Any kit w/o all the *(#&*$&#((!!! resin and PE. > > Craig For Aim Tech to get off their a.s and get the 1/48 P 61 done they advertised oh so long ago... I'd even take a Trumpeter P 61 in braille scale. AM > So... what is your wish list for 2007? > > Here's mine. <.......big snippage.......> > So... what's *your* wish list? > > -- > Enzo For me, just coming up with the cash to add Trumpeter's 1/32 F-100 and A7 to the mound of stuff I'll probably never get to build :-) -- Chuck Ryan Springfield OH Planes: Martin B-10, Boeing YB-17, Douglas B-18 Armor: US M1 Combat Car, M2A2 Mae West, M2 Medium Tank MY wish is for some benevolent kit manufacturer to make an injection-molded AP-2H in 1/48 scale. Nevva hoppen, I'm sure but, just the same I'm putting all my eggs into this one basket for 2007 SignatureCheers: Bill Woodier In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm -- > So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > So... what's *your* wish list? > So... what is your wish list for 2007? An LNW Type 4 signal box with sufficient parts that any variation can be modelled by combining two or more kits. I would buy tons of these. Bet you wish you'd thought of that? (kim) >> So... what is your wish list for 2007? > > An LNW Type 4 signal box with sufficient parts that any variation can > be modelled by combining two or more kits. I would buy tons of these. > > Bet you wish you'd thought of that? LOL I must admit that I'd buy one of those. I don't have a very good track record when it comes to signal boxes! About three years ago, I received some surprise visitors. My cousin, her husband and their angelic child had decided to come and visit me,unannounced, all the way from London (I live in Norfolk). I live in a 2 up, 2 down. I have one bed - the other "bedroom" is a railway room/workshop. Needless to say, they expected to be put up for the night (where?). The child (6 years old at the time) was also tired and fractious - hardly surprising. The only way that they had managed to keep him quiet was to promise that he could "play with Uncle Enzo's train set". I pointed out that it wasn't a "train set" but a model railway. However I eventually agreed that the little darling could watch it in operation. Anything to stop the snivelling - and that was just the parents! First question: "Where's Thomas?" I explained that the model represents the London Midland region in 1956 (or with a few minor changes, the LMS in 1936) and that Thomas lives on the Isle of Sodor, not my railway. Not good enough. "Want Thomas!" stated the cherub loudly, bottom lip a-tremble. "Where's Thomas?" With a sinking feeling in my stomach I realised that very shortly I would be staring down the barrel of a hissy fit - a situation with which I was ill equipped to deal. I looked around for moral support to find that cousin-and-hubby had left me alone with the adorable angel and were downstairs opening a bottle of wine (*My* wine, I must point out) without an invitation! In desperation I pointed out the train that was running. The apple of my eye. A Caprotti Black 5, ugly as sin, weathered to perfection, hauling a fitted freight, each van subtly different, weathered and close coupled. It took my breath away just to see it. The child was not impressed and instantly morphed into the Spoiled Brat Demon from the Seventh Level of Hell. Without warning, he screamed at the top of his lungs and swatted the Black 5, which was knocked off the track, severed footsteps flying around like shrapnel. Somehow in the melee the buffers and coupling from the van on the engine also came adrift. I looked on aghast, but the SBD from the SLH was only just getting into his stride. The next strike was the signal box. He plucked it from the layout and hurled it at the wall! OK, so it was only a Dapol/Airfix box and not particularly accurate for the LMS/LM region, but it had been lovingly detailed inside and out. I liked it. Alas, before my very eyes it shuffled off the mortal coil, rang down the curtains and went to join the choir invisbule. It was now an ex-Signal box. So, I grabbed the brat, who was now kicking and screaming, and dragged it downstairs to present it to its parents. They were very angry - understandably so I thought, considering the behaviour of their foul progeny. Incredibly, they were angry with *me* for manhandling their abhorrent offspring. I hadn't realised that parents of a vile brat misbehaving quite dreadfully in someone else's home could ever get quite so territorial. So, I considered my options - apology, reconciliation or stern-but-fair rebuke. After a moment's thought I rejected them all and settled for losing my temper. I asked them to leave (in no uncertain terms, which were a melange of ****, **** and **** with a judicious smattering of ******* for good measure) In the end I virtually threw them out into the street and withdrew upstairs to assess the damage. The engine and van were repairable. Sadly, the signal box was a right-off. I salvaged the interior and built a new signal box from Langley components, with the locking room from Townstreet brick components. It certainly looks more LNWR than the old one, which being the old Airfix kit was modelled on a Midland prototype - Oakham IIRC. However, I would buy a new LNWR box if one became available. In the intervening three years I have had no contact whatsoever with that portion of the family - thankfully. I still haven't forgiven that horrid brat. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > >> So... what is your wish list for 2007? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > LOL I must admit that I'd buy one of those. I don't have a very good > track record when it comes to signal boxes! I almost forgot. We need a generic kit for a midland region footbridge with high metal sides but no roof. This could be assembled in any configuration such as Z, U or straight, with platform or street level staircase. It would only need to span two tracks as we could buy extra kits to make up the wider versions. Some local ones spanned an entire goods yard. Good repeat business from a single mould I would have thought. (kim) Rebodied 21 ton hopper fitted (HTV) Both end stantion types! I will be rebuilding a couple of Parkside once purchased. Out of bag unfitted big supports Next I fitted and also made the thinner supports My next two will be rebodies (file off side detail), one with as supplied ends with vac cylinder, one with thinner supports Most in 1980s were the final type > Rebodied 21 ton hopper fitted (HTV) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Most in 1980s were the final type Railcars? Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> Rebodied 21 ton hopper fitted (HTV) >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. engines, i bet. >>> Rebodied 21 ton hopper fitted (HTV) >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > engines, i bet. Wagons http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c465372.html >>>> Rebodied 21 ton hopper fitted (HTV) >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c465372.html wow, a lot to chose from. thanks for the correction and info. > >>> Railcars? > >> engines, i bet. > > > >Wagons Obviously 'railcars' was the wrong term. 'Wagons' was more appropriate and what I meant. > >http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c465372.html Thanks, Alan. Cool pics and I've bookmarked the page. > wow, a lot to chose from. thanks for the correction and > info. Very different from the 100 ton cars we have hereabouts. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >>> Railcars? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. just enough to realise i'm ignorant. I hoofed it over to the garage yesterday to pick up the car and Amtrak had an oddity parked in their work area. If I and the Diesel Spotter's Guide are correct it was a GP39 built for the Kennecot Copper Co. to be used down in the pit mine in Utah. Now it's working for Amtrak in maintenance. Glad I took the camera along. Wish I'd had it on Sunday when I walked back from said garage. There was another odd unit parked along the main. It looked like it should be sitting on 6-wheel trucks(bogeys) but it was on 4-wheelers. The radiator fan spacing was odd and there was carbody aft of the radiators. It might have been a GP40P but I can't say. There's been so much unit rebuilding that finding an older unit in as-delivered condition is rare. This one could have been modified in a shop somewhere. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >I hoofed it over to the garage yesterday to pick up the car and Amtrak >had an oddity parked in their work area. If I and the Diesel Spotter's [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. can we see? Pic is still in the camera but I will post it when I get them downloaded. That GP39 is a strange looking beastie. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >Pic is still in the camera but I will post it when I get them >downloaded. That GP39 is a strange looking beastie. > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ok, thanks. you're getting me more interested in rr stuff. like i need a new hobby! wanna buy some motorcycles? > yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very > different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. > just enough to realise i'm ignorant. Allow me to enlighten you. Robert Louis Stephenson chose the unusual gauge of four foot, one and a half inches for British railways. That was so a model bult to 4mm/ft scale would today be a perfect fit for American H0 gauge track which is built to a scale of 3.5mm/ft. Clever, wasn't he? (kim) > Allow me to enlighten you. > > Robert Louis Stephenson chose the unusual gauge of four foot, one and a half > inches for British railways. Allow me to enlighten you now :) Funny, he took it from the Roman chariot. Which had that exact same wheel gauge. Actually the distance did come about this way, easier to lay track on existing roadbed. (Roman) Of which they had a lot of... And we (USA) took the English gauge, and before the Civil War the north standardized it. In the south, there were several different gauges, which hampered them, and frustrated the union. Hence one of the impacts of this, was at the end of the war the USA had one standard railway gauge. And no... didn't even see any meteors. It's been in the low to mid 50's here, and it's December !!!!! The ground fog in the am, and eve's blots the sky out, and a couple of days of rain didn't help. But people here nearby did see them. SignatureAM http://sctuser.home.comcast.net >> Allow me to enlighten you. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >out, and a couple of days of rain didn't help. >But people here nearby did see them. hey, we both got it. cool. >> yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very >> different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >(kim) i knew that and the fact we mostly kept that standard in the north but not in the south. so whenever the north conquered and area, the first job was re-guaging to use the tracks. it was so vital train crews worked very close to the front lines and some go captured. but thanks for the nice factoid. >> yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very >> different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Robert Louis Stephenson <splutter> in between writing Treasure Island and The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, no doubt? I hope you mean George Stephenson, the celebrated inventor of the Geordie lamp. He is generally acknowledged as the father of railways. His son was Robert, also a noted railway engineer. Robert Louis Stevenson was a novelist. > chose the unusual gauge of four foot, one and a half That would be 4'8½" I presume, the "colliery gauge" > inches for British railways. Well, for his first railways, the Hetton Colliery, Stockton & Darlington and Liverpool and Manchester railways. Chosen because it was the gauge of the colliery railways already in existence, worked by hand or pony power or sometimes by stationary steam engines and rope haulage. The rapid growth of railways in Britain and the world following the success of the Liverpool and Manchester used the same gauge because they were building on his success and for the most part got their first locomotives from Robert's Forth Street works in Newcastle. > That was so a model bult to 4mm/ft scale would > today be a perfect fit for American H0 gauge track which is built to a scale > of 3.5mm/ft. Clever, wasn't he? He certainly was. Genius isn't too strong a word for George, the self-educated son of a colliery engine-keeper. > >> yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very > >> different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > That would be 4'8½" I presume, the "colliery gauge" No, it's a running gag. British modellers use 4mm/ft scale on 16.5mm gaiuge track which measures out at four foot, one and a half :o) (kim) > > >> yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very > > >> different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > (kim) I thought there was something suspicious about that. I know that the gauge of British OO doesn't match the scale. That's why I could run an Airfix diesel on my HO layout. Wish I'd gotten a picture. OTOH I do have a pic of a Piko Czech electric sitting with my GG1. It's rememiscent of a VW parked near a '70s Caddy. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> > >> yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very >> > >> different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. or a giant ape humping a football? >>> yeah, i guess different needs and guages make for very >>> different cars or wagons. i don't know enough about trains. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >He certainly was. Genius isn't too strong a word for George, the >self-educated son of a colliery engine-keeper. wow! 1/72 C 5A With working landing gear of course ;-) SignatureAM http://sctuser.home.comcast.net >>>>> Railcars? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Obviously 'railcars' was the wrong term. 'Wagons' was more appropriate > and what I meant. <grins> No, no, this http://dewi.ca/trains/misc/pix/c0165.jpg is a railcar :-) So are these http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.railcar.co.uk/pics/120-129/1 21/121GWR.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.railcar.co.uk/his120-129/121liv.htm&h=210&w=4 00&sz=36&hl=en&sig2=V3n782Za7nHwroc3ql-b3w&start=18&tbnid=U2r6FPhGXLEOiM:&tbnh=6 5&tbnw=124&ei=-D6ARYzcB4mWSKnBjMQH&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drailcar%2Bgwr%26svnum%3D10 %26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG In UK parlance a railcar is a motorised self-contained passenger coach, sort of a rail-mounted bus. Sometimes they towed one extra unmotorised coach, but they are not the same as Diesel Multiple-Units. Confused yet? > Very different from the 100 ton cars we have hereabouts. British railway companies persisted for a very long time carrying freight in small wagons without continuous brakes. And they wonder why our roads are full of lorries. > <grins> No, no, this > http://dewi.ca/trains/misc/pix/c0165.jpg > is a railcar :-) It comes perilously close to being a railbus. ;) > British railway companies persisted for a very long time carrying > freight in small wagons without continuous brakes. And they wonder why > our roads are full of lorries. And I believe you still use hook and link couplings. That must make the brakeman's job more exciting. The railroads over here had to come up with something that didn't cause quite as much carnage as the link-and-pin style did. The Janney coupler was adapted from streetcars into the knuckle couplers we still use today. People still get hurt but nowhere near the numbers achieved in the 1880s. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> <grins> No, no, this >> http://dewi.ca/trains/misc/pix/c0165.jpg [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. didn't they figure a man's expirience by the number of missing digits? > >> <grins> No, no, this > >> http://dewi.ca/trains/misc/pix/c0165.jpg [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > didn't they figure a man's expirience by the number of > missing digits? Probably. Over in the litho dept where I used to work the newbies stood out because of the lack of any vicious scars. Those tin sheets coming out of the drying ovens were just as sharp as dull razors but much heavier. Aside from the constant heat that convinced me I wanted nothing to do with the job. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >> <grins> No, no, this >> >> http://dewi.ca/trains/misc/pix/c0165.jpg [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. smart move. > >> <grins> No, no, this [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. The 3-link loose coupling also persisted for a long time, though it has vanished now. Railways were a victim of their early success, to the extent that vast fleets of unbraked, 3-link coupled wagons existed in private owner's hands and the companies, and even British Rail, were loth to turn away their business. Bad short-term thinking. > The 3-link loose coupling also persisted for a long time, though it has > vanished now. Railways were a victim of their early success, to the > extent that vast fleets of unbraked, 3-link coupled wagons existed in > private owner's hands and the companies, and even British Rail, were > loth to turn away their business. Bad short-term thinking. I believe in our case it was mandated by legislation. Most equipment changes are phased in over a set time so that after 39th of Quixtor, 3002 no wagons are running about with old equipment. I remember back in the late '60s when roofwalks started to be ripped off boxcars. They were supposed to all be gone by the early '70s but some were still seen in the late '70s. In those cases the railroads simply cut the ladders to make them inaccessible. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> The 3-link loose coupling also persisted for a long time, though it has >> vanished now. Railways were a victim of their early success, to the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. was that to keep off the hobos or whatever you call the rail bums these days?the run around town here a lot, so in certain areas you hear about break ins and missing laundry. It was more likely an attempt to cut down the amount of injuries and deaths caused by the brakeman having to walk up and down the train whilst in motion. I walked down a roofwalk once on a parked car and felt really woozy. I can't imagine how someone could do it whilst the car was moving and not fall off. And it looks so easy when Wile E. Coyote does it! Then again, walkways still exist on covered hoppers because they are necessary to the loading process. Your transients are probably on their way to work at a Walmart or Swift plant. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >It was more likely an attempt to cut down the amount of injuries and >deaths caused by the brakeman having to walk up and down the train [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i don't think so. a soup kitchen is next to the track yard, they get off for a meal and bed and then head down the pass or to switch out of victorville to go north or south. west is down the valley and towards la. very few head down...but some. that mexican murderer was spotted here twice before he got nailed. > >It was more likely an attempt to cut down the amount of injuries and > >deaths caused by the brakeman having to walk up and down the train [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > that mexican murderer was spotted here twice before he got > nailed. They probably use those little platforms on covered hoppers. Nice overhang and no doors to jimmy open. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >It was more likely an attempt to cut down the amount of injuries and >> >deaths caused by the brakeman having to walk up and down the train [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. wow, good guess. they said he liked hopper cars. >>Very different from the 100 ton cars we have hereabouts. >> >>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Were near end of life in mid 1980s as more bigger air braked wagons came available. The HTVs and HTOs were reaplaced by the HEAs, or unfortunately lorries. The late 70s early 80s were a fascinating period as hydraulics were phased out, HSTs brought in, and air braked wagons replaced older vacuum braked stuff. Also just before the big scrappings of older carriages, so there were interesting restaurant cars, a few prototypes still in use, and lots of different DMUs. What is weird is now a lot of locos around then have been preserved longer than they were in service with BR, good example are the Deltics, 20 years BR service and preserved for nearly 25 years. What is funny is that they are still the most powerful Diesel in Britain, and that all 100mph certified Diesel locos are preserved (Deltics and class 50s) 47s are 95mph rated, HSTs are 125 >>> Very different from the 100 ton cars we have hereabouts. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Diesel locos are preserved (Deltics and class 50s) 47s are 95mph rated, HSTs > are 125 Ahhh, Deltics. I am revealing my age when I say that I have seen both Deltics and Streaks on the ECML - and both were, in their own ways, very impressive. There is something about a steam locomotive that seems alive, that is not present in a diesel or electric loco. It breathes, makes movements that are muscular, gives a feeling of stored power. For all that diesel an electric traction are more efficient, steam has soul. >>>> Very different from the 100 ton cars we have hereabouts. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >that are muscular, gives a feeling of stored power. For all that diesel >an electric traction are more efficient, steam has soul. and with diesels, all the power it has is right there when you hit the gas. you get it all and no more. steam engines need to wind up, to build power and that gives them much more character. standing next to a fired up locomotive is indeed like being next to a giant, breathing animal. they hiss, shudder, steam comes out of strange places and you feel the power locked in the huffing beast. and theu're all different, even among the same models and series they all have individual quirks and mannerisms. last commercial steam train i was on was during 1956 in germany. it was huge, but i don't know what it was. > Ahhh, Deltics. I am revealing my age when I say that I have seen both > Deltics and Streaks on the ECML - and both were, in their own ways, very > impressive. A Deltic wasn't so much a locomotive as a torpedo boat mounted on rails. It had a cockpit at each end, twin marine diesels and was built by an aircraft company! > There is something about a steam locomotive that seems alive, that is > not present in a diesel or electric loco. It breathes, makes movements > that are muscular, gives a feeling of stored power. But not easily captured in smaller scales. For realistic loco motion you need at least 7mm/ft scale or bigger. (kim) And a Deltic is one that I can easily pick out in a picture. :) I think I have some on disc, gathered from the railway picture group. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > And a Deltic is one that I can easily pick out in a picture. :) > I think I have some on disc, gathered from the railway picture group. I think that Deltics were one of the main causes of the bad reputation that British Railways gained in the late 1960s and early 70s. Deltics were so successful and reliable that they lulled BR into a false sense of security. BR thought that *every* class of diesel would be like that. The problem was that English Electric had a massive case of beginner's luck and got everything just right. Follow on designs from EE and other manufacturers were nowhere near as reliable. For instance, the Class 23 was a smaller version of the Class 55 Deltics. It was even known as the "Baby Deltic". However, despite using the same engine and similar running gear, it was hugely unreliable for some years. Other classes were similar. They were all purged in the National Transport Plan in the early 70s, but by that time the damage was done and BR had an exceptionally bad reputation. Admittedly there were other factors in that bad rep, such as low morale amongst staff leading to abysmal customer service (the early 70s included the Winter of Discontent) but even if everything else is just peachy, if your locomtives don't work properly, you're never going to get a good rep. Sadly by the time this was realised, BR had got rid of their steam motive power. Some of the BR Standard steam engines - such as the later 9Fs - had been in service for less than eight years! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > > And a Deltic is one that I can easily pick out in a picture. :) > > I think I have some on disc, gathered from the railway picture group. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > power. Some of the BR Standard steam engines - such as the later 9Fs - had > been in service for less than eight years! The initial plan was to build just ten of each type of what were still considered "experimental" diesel designs and see how they performed. (That was despite diesel already having been standard in the USA for the previous ten years). Following the departure of Robert Riddles as chief mechanical engineer of British Railways, that number was suddenly increased to 200 of each type which had yet to be tested. Deltic power packs were no more reliable than any other diesel-electric generator of the period but each locomotive had two of them so if one failed the other could still be used. Plus, the power packs could be easily removed for servicing at English Electric's, not BR's expense. (kim) >> However, despite using the same engine and similar running gear, it >>was hugely unreliable for some years. Deltic 2 x 18cyl supercharged 2 x 1650bhp Baby 1 x 9cyl turbocharged 1100bhp They never built the 4400bhp Super Deltic They were lucky to get their SBD back alive, IMHO. Sadly, I'll bet they learned nothing from the experience. No doubt they tell tales of crazy Enzo and his toy trains. OTOH, I hope you procured a Thomas for the next time someone brings an urchin to see the trains. Most clubs have discovered that what excites them about their authentic scenery and realistic operation doesn't do much for kids who want to see the trains go round and round. This assumes that you would allow anybody with children inside your home again. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >>>So... what is your wish list for 2007? >> [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > portion of the family - thankfully. I still haven't forgiven that horrid > brat. Sorry to hear of your damaged railway . But you know the old say ,,, "you can choose your friends ,but you can't choose your relatives" One reason I choose to live in outback Australia ,it's too hot and far away enough from the comfort of the cities where my relatives live for them to bother with me. You might say I'm a "relative hermit". SignatureKevin (Bluey) "I'm not young enough to know everything." bluey69@west.net.com.au >>>>So... what is your wish list for 2007? >>> [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] >them to bother with me. >You might say I'm a "relative hermit". yeah, welcome to the mojave desert. i know that the people who come to visit really want to see me. i'm not a convenient place to crash on the way to somewhere. > >>>>So... what is your wish list for 2007? > >>> [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > me. i'm not a convenient place to crash on the way to > somewhere. Yeah, there's no way out. :) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. As I've already reached SABLE, I shouldn't have a wish list, I suppose, but this is it. All are in 1/72nd scale. Aircraft: I agree that we could do with some post-war RAF types. I'd also like some more WW1 types such as the DH9, Albatros CIII and Morane-Saulnier Type L. Some aircraft from the 1920's and 1930's, including some of the attractive civil aircraft of the period, would also be nice. AFVs: A decent Centurion Mk5 or 9/10, a good Sherman that I could actually afford and any of the armoured cars from 1914 onwards would do me nicely. Some artillery would also be good. Lorries and cars: I'd really like to see some lorries, military and civilian, from any period up to c1960 and some cars of the same period. A Bedford RL would separate me from some of my scarce cash. Earthmoving and other plant: I'd also love to see some plant models. A Caterpillar D6 or D8 bulldozer, a Ruston-Bucyrus 10RB or 19RB excavator, a Muir-Hill 10b or 14B dumper, a steam roller, etc. Domestic and industrial architecture: This may seem an odd choice but I could fancy some proper kits of Victorian, Edwardian and later houses and small industrial buildings. Ships: As a change of scale, I might have trouble resisting a range of 1/1200 scale ships, naval and merchant, that could be used to make up a convoy and escorts from WW1 or WW2. Considering the expense, it's just as well that this lot are unlikely to appear. Gordon McLaughlin > So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > So... what's *your* wish list? > Domestic and industrial architecture: This may seem an odd choice > but I could fancy some proper kits of Victorian, Edwardian and later > houses and small industrial buildings. Have you looked at any of the model railway companies? You may find Langley Models interesting. http://www.langley-models.co.uk/ SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Thanks, Enzo. I'm familiar with Langley's range of vehicles and have seen some of their building system. The kits are now out of my price range and the vacform basis of their buildings doesn't appeal. What I had in mind was a proper plastic kit on the lines of Wills Finecast but with fuller exterior detail and the basic interior walls and floors. Architecture is one of my interests and I'm really thinking of a model of a building as an end in itself rather than as an adjunct to something else. As a medium term project, I have it in mind to scratch build a pair of Victorian semis or a short street of artisans' cottages of the same period. A small pre-WW1 factory or industrial workshop building also appeals. I'm not familiar with many other ranges but the new Skaledale range of buildings, for example, doesn't really match what I have in mind. Gordon McLaughlin >> Domestic and industrial architecture: This may seem an odd choice >> but I could fancy some proper kits of Victorian, Edwardian and later [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.langley-models.co.uk/ Enzo Matrix said the following on 02/12/06 16:36: > So... what is your wish list for 2007? > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > So... what's *your* wish list? I'd like to see more British warships such as the Glorious class which needs little conversion at least between HMS Courageous and HMS Glorious. Maybe Fiji and various other class ships. The Pickfords Contractor low loader set which could have two cabs on the front or back if needs be. Try to get hold of the British Transport Films Classic DVDs "Giant Loads On The Move" and "50s Road Hauling" where this beast features. They can be had for around 3UKP in the crappy old DVD racks of clothes or junk shops. Richard. Signature"Naturally the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country." Reichsmarshall Herman Goering, Nuremberg, 1946 > So... what is your wish list for 2007? And now for something completely different. In 1/72. EC-120 EC-130 SA-130 Squirrel MD-900 Explorer H-37 Mojave Sikorsky S-76 Eagle And these are items that are not even available from limited run companies. Don't get me started on modern versions of existing older kits. Cheers Ultan >So... what is your wish list for 2007? 1/48 - TA-4J (are you listening Hasegawa????) 1/48 - T-2C Buckeye 1/48 - T-34B 1/350 and/or 1/700 USS Langley 1/350 and/or 1/700 27C Mod Essex-Hancock Carrier (Lexington, Hornet, Intrepid, Ticonderoga, Shangri-La, etc). Can anyone explain why these important ships have never been modeled in a standard scale? The Revell/Renwal kits just don't measure up as they are hugely innacurate and severly dated. Notwithstanding their goofy scale. John Alger IPMS 10906 Charlotte Scale Modelers Same as always, 1/48 Boeing XB-15 & Douglas XB-19. Yeah I want that promised 1/48 P-61 too! I would like to see japanese multiengine types circa WWII. Tony |
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