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TheMilkGuy - 11 Dec 2006 03:28 GMT
Hi all!  Been lurking here for a few days...

I've been scale modeling off and on for about 15 years now and I'm
quite comfortable with most facets of the hobby, although my
'perfectionist' side has only come out to play these past few years.
;)

I've recently started a Revell A340 Airbus model, and I'm ready for the
final assembly.

The fuselage is split vertically, and I'm trying to envision how to
hold/press it to stay together as the glue dries.

Any advice?

Thanks!

Craig
Stephen Tontoni - 11 Dec 2006 05:04 GMT
> Hi all!  Been lurking here for a few days...
>
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> The fuselage is split vertically, and I'm trying to envision how to
> hold/press it to stay together as the glue dries.

Depends on what tools you have around, and how much pressure you
actually need to generate. Rubber bands can work great, but masking tape
can do the trick too. I prefer clamps and have Quick Clamps that are
very handy. It's a bar clamp with a short jaw. (the short jaw may not
work for a fuselage as large as an airliner model) The handle ratchets
tighter when you squeeze it. You can generate a tremendous amount of
pressure using that.

If I were just getting back into the hobby now, I'd use rubber bands and
liquid glue in moderation. Flow the liquid glue (I prefer Ambroid
pro-weld) into the joint with a paint brush, letting capillary action do
your work for you, then apply the rubber bands to seal the joint.

=== Stephen
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 11 Dec 2006 14:53 GMT
> If I were just getting back into the hobby now, I'd use rubber bands and
> liquid glue in moderation. Flow the liquid glue (I prefer Ambroid
> pro-weld) into the joint with a paint brush, letting capillary action do
> your work for you, then apply the rubber bands to seal the joint.
>
> === Stephen

Be aware, however, that the liquid cement will leak out where it
touches the rubber band and follow arround the band. If you use liquid
cement I would recommend clamps. It will get under either bands or tape
and mar the finish of the plastic.
Stephen Tontoni - 11 Dec 2006 17:51 GMT
> > If I were just getting back into the hobby now, I'd use rubber bands and
> > liquid glue in moderation. Flow the liquid glue (I prefer Ambroid
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> cement I would recommend clamps. It will get under either bands or tape
> and mar the finish of the plastic.

Very true, Don. That can ruin your whole day.

If you apply the glue first and just use the rubber bands to squeeze it
out and maintain pressure, it shouldn't be a problem. And also use the
glue in moderation.

But yeah, be careful!

-- Stephen
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 12 Dec 2006 15:07 GMT
> > > If I were just getting back into the hobby now, I'd use rubber bands and
> > > liquid glue in moderation. Flow the liquid glue (I prefer Ambroid
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>
> Very true, Don. That can ruin your whole day.

The problem is that any clamp, even a rubber band or tape, that
SQUEEZES the joint causes more glue to ooze back out of the seam, and
it will, by capillary action, get between the plastic and the rubber
band or tape.

> If you apply the glue first and just use the rubber bands to squeeze it
> out and maintain pressure, it shouldn't be a problem. And also use the
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>
> -- Stephen
Stephen Tontoni - 12 Dec 2006 17:47 GMT
> The problem is that any clamp, even a rubber band or tape, that
> SQUEEZES the joint causes more glue to ooze back out of the seam, and
> it will, by capillary action, get between the plastic and the rubber
> band or tape.

Well Don, no offense buddy, but it sounds like you're using too much
glue. When you apply liquid glue and squeeze, the only thing that should
come out of the joint will be a bead of melted plastic, and that's too
thick to be drawn any where by capillary action.

That being said, everyone has their own system that works for them. If
it works, great. This is all probably pretty good information for the
guy who posted the original question.

--- Stephen
Willshak - 12 Dec 2006 17:06 GMT
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> -- Stephen
>  

I find the spring loaded clothesline hangers (clothespins) work well on
flying surface halves and other thin gluing projects. They only open to
about 3/4", so they're not suitable for fuselages, etc.

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Rufus - 12 Dec 2006 17:46 GMT
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> flying surface halves and other thin gluing projects. They only open to
> about 3/4", so they're not suitable for fuselages, etc.

Then there's my trick - Scotch tape and toothpicks.  Lay a toothpick on
either side of the join to act as a "bridge" to keep the tape from
actually touching the seam...this keeps the glue from following the
tape.  Glue first, tape second and take care and you can reuse the
toothpicks, possibly even the tape.

Use a fairly long piece of tape, so that it grabs well on either side of
the join and you can pull it tight; tape the opposite side in place just
to make it stable.  I'd work one side first, then the other (say top,
then bottom) progressively from tail to nose.

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