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Then Why The Plastic Bag?

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teem - 16 Dec 2006 01:19 GMT
Is it to keep the parts from getting knocked around?,you would think
there'd be air holes  on the bag to help dry out the parts.
Jack G - 16 Dec 2006 01:37 GMT
I would bet it is because the parts are molded in one place, put in plastic
bags, and then packaged in boxes somewhere completely different - maybe in a
different country....

Jack G.

> Is it to keep the parts from getting knocked around?,you would think
> there'd be air holes  on the bag to help dry out the parts.
RobG - 16 Dec 2006 14:25 GMT
> I would bet it is because the parts are molded in one place, put in plastic
> bags, and then packaged in boxes somewhere completely different - maybe in a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > Is it to keep the parts from getting knocked around?,you would think
> > there'd be air holes  on the bag to help dry out the parts.

I agree with Jack. Many of the old AMT armor kits were reboxed Esci
kits. The kits came in sealed plastic bags with MADE IN ITALY imprinted
on them inside the AMT box.

Other times they are placed in individual bags to protect more fragile
sprues (clear, chrome, car body) from being scratched by other sprues
in the box.
frank - 16 Dec 2006 16:16 GMT
That makes me think of back in the '80s when Wal Mart was
proclaiming "Buy American Made" or something like that. In the Plastic
Models section, they had tons of Testors kits, & not a one were 'made'
in the USA, only boxed in the USA!

> > I would bet it is because the parts are molded in one place, put in plastic
> > bags, and then packaged in boxes somewhere completely different - maybe in a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> sprues (clear, chrome, car body) from being scratched by other sprues
> in the box.
Disco58 - 16 Dec 2006 18:20 GMT
>>...agree with Jack. Many of the old AMT armor kits were reboxed Esci
kits. The kits came in sealed plastic bags with MADE IN ITALY imprinted
on them inside the AMT box....<

I asked this question a week or two ago, but this begs the question
again....  I received an F-8E kit in an ESCI box, in sealed bags marked
"Made in Italy", with ESCI instructions and Monogram decals.  After a
decent inspection, it appears the parts are identical to a Monogram F-8E I
already have.  Is this a Mono rebox too, or an actual ESCI kit, or what?
Mad-Modeller - 17 Dec 2006 01:51 GMT
>  >>...agree with Jack. Many of the old AMT armor kits were reboxed Esci
> kits. The kits came in sealed plastic bags with MADE IN ITALY imprinted
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> decent inspection, it appears the parts are identical to a Monogram F-8E I
> already have.  Is this a Mono rebox too, or an actual ESCI kit, or what?

I can't give you an answer on that as I'm uninformed on the subject of
1/48th but I believe I have Esci 1/48th F-8E instructions scanned.  If
you want to see if they are the same (and I can find them) give me a
holler and I'll be glad to send you a sample.  Just check my reply to
line.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Al Superczynski - 17 Dec 2006 02:40 GMT
>I received an F-8E kit in an ESCI box, in sealed bags marked
>"Made in Italy", with ESCI instructions and Monogram decals.  After a
>decent inspection, it appears the parts are identical to a Monogram F-8E I
>already have.  Is this a Mono rebox too, or an actual ESCI kit, or what?

    The only thing ESCI about that kit was the box.  There's nothing
in common between the Monogram and ESCI F-8s other than the subject
matter.
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Mechanical Menace - 17 Dec 2006 22:39 GMT
>>I received an F-8E kit in an ESCI box, in sealed bags marked
>>"Made in Italy", with ESCI instructions and Monogram decals.  After a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> in common between the Monogram and ESCI F-8s other than the subject
> matter.

So you probably have a Monogram kit in an ESCI box.
No problem as it turns out that the Monogram kit is better than the ESCI
kit.
Unless you are a collector of ESCI kits, then you are now the proud owner
of a rip-off or a one-off. Just depends on how you look at it all.

HTH.

Cheers,

Dennis
eyeball - 16 Dec 2006 02:11 GMT
Plastic bags are better at preventing lost parts...plus boxes sometimes
get opened.
I have seen some bags with holes tho...
> Is it to keep the parts from getting knocked around?,you would think
> there'd be air holes  on the bag to help dry out the parts.
teem - 17 Dec 2006 22:03 GMT
>Plastic bags are better at preventing lost parts...plus boxes sometimes
>get opened.
>I have seen some bags with holes tho...
>> Is it to keep the parts from getting knocked around?,you would think
>> there'd be air holes  on the bag to help dry out the parts.
So,then it was to keep the parts clean.
Peter W. - 18 Dec 2006 04:25 GMT
> So,then it was to keep the parts clean.

But, there is no need to "dry" stryene after it was molded.  It hardens
as it is ejected from the moulding machine.  That's it.

While I'm not a kit packaging engineer I can say from my experience
that kits without bagged part trees sometimes end up with lost parts
when they fall off the tree. Especially if the box is mangled on an
older kit.

So, if all the parts are bagged in a sealed single bag, that prevents
parts loss.

When the individual part trees are bagged that protects parts trees
from rubbing agains each other. This prevents scratching (espacially
the clear parts).  This type of packaging is the most protective of the
kit parts.

Many kit part bags do have holes in them. I suspect that is to prevent
them from "balooning" rather than allowing anything to dry.

Peteski

Peteski
Mad-Modeller - 18 Dec 2006 07:30 GMT
My main gripe is that we've gone from the point of wanting some
protection for clear (and chrome-plated) parts from scratches to the
point where 'every frickin'' thing is wrapped in polyethylene.  I spend
an inordinate amount of time tearing or cutting bags to get the parts
out just to feel the plastic and dry fit things.  About the only ones I
keep are the bags around the clear and chrome parts, if any.

Just my 5¢.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
 
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