paints for ME BF109F-2/F-4

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Bluepen - 13 Jun 2007 06:12 GMT

I hate the paint guide for the 21st Century aircraft, but I think I
have finally figured it out. I have a huge selection of colors of
paint, but need to have an idea what these German colors translate to:

Grau        Gray        Model Master Aircraft Gray
Gelb        Yellow        Insignia Yellow
Schwarzgrun    Black-Green    Tamiya Black-green
Graugrun    Gray Green?    Not sure of close color
Grau Violet    Gray Violet?    Not sure
Lichblau        Light Blue    Almost a powder or sky blue
Sandgelb    Sand Yellow    Not sure

Help... Is there a chart somewhere? I think I can do this if I can
just get an idea what these colors mean. I have most of them or I can
mix them.

Thanks

Lance

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willshak - 13 Jun 2007 11:40 GMT

on 6/13/2007 1:12 AM Bluepen said the following:

> I hate the paint guide for the 21st Century aircraft, but I think I
> have finally figured it out. I have a huge selection of colors of
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> Lance
>

Testors Model Master Acryl color chart
http://www.testors.com/fileshare/color_charts/4600_MM_(Acrylic).pdf
Testors Model Master II (enamel) color chart
http://www.testors.com/fileshare/color_charts/2000_MMII%20(Enamel).pdf
Tamiya color charts
http://tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=72

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Pip Moss - 13 Jun 2007 17:58 GMT

> I hate the paint guide for the 21st Century aircraft, but I think I
> have finally figured it out. I have a huge selection of colors of
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>
> Lance

German WW2 colors were coded with numbers from the RLM (government air
ministry). Most model paint lines will identify their German colors with RLM
numbers, which makes it much easier to know what you're looking for. The RLM
numbers for your list above are probably as follows:

Grau Gray Could be RLM 02 (actually a gray-green color)
Gelb Yellow RLM 04
Schwarzgrun Black-Green RLM 70
Graugrun Gray Green RLM 74
Grau Violet Gray Violet RLM 75
Lichblau Light Blue RLM 76
Sandgelb Sand Yellow RLM 79

FWIW, standard painting schemes changed during the production run of Bf
109Fs. Many later F's (certainly F-4s) were painted in the standard mid-war
scheme of RLM 74 and RLM 75 uppers over RLM 76 lowers. Many early F-2s were
painted in a transitional early-war scheme of RLM 02 and RLM 71 Dunkegrun
over RLM 65 Hellblau (similar to RLM 76 but a bit greener)

HTH
Pip Moss

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Mad-Modeller - 14 Jun 2007 04:27 GMT

> > I hate the paint guide for the 21st Century aircraft, but I think I
> > have finally figured it out. I have a huge selection of colors of
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> HTH
> Pip Moss

To which I'd add that Lichtblau could also be RLM 78 which is an
extremely light blue usually used under 79 in desert schemes.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

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