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Gagghhh... decals

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Bluepen - 10 Jul 2007 05:27 GMT
I had an old, I mean like 4 years old, set of decals from Yellowhead
decals for my Black Cat PBY-5A and they came apart before they got off
the paper.  Ordered more... but has anyone got any recomendations on
how to avoid this or was it just old decals?

Thanks,

Lance
Mad-Modeller - 10 Jul 2007 07:00 GMT
> I had an old, I mean like 4 years old, set of decals from Yellowhead
> decals for my Black Cat PBY-5A and they came apart before they got off
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> Lance

Coat them first with Testors Gloscote, Future or even the Microscale
product made just for that.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
willshak - 10 Jul 2007 13:56 GMT
on 7/10/2007 2:54 AM Mad-Modeller said the following:
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>> I had an old, I mean like 4 years old, set of decals from Yellowhead
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> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
>  

I didn't have much success with Future. I haven't tried the Microscale
stuff.
http://www.houseofhobbies.com/mimilidefi.html

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Don McIntyre - 10 Jul 2007 14:38 GMT
> on 7/10/2007 2:54 AM Mad-Modeller said the following:
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> In Hamptonburgh, NY
> To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Decals only 4 years old? I wouldn't think that the cracking would be
an issue, but maybe they weren't overcoated correctly. The Micro-Scale
Decal film may be worth a shot, I've used it with pretty good success
on even 20 year old decals.
Pat Flannery - 10 Jul 2007 22:37 GMT
> Decals only 4 years old? I wouldn't think that the cracking would be
> an issue, but maybe they weren't overcoated correctly. The Micro-Scale
> Decal film may be worth a shot, I've used it with pretty good success
> on even 20 year old decals.
>  

Airfix ones used to disintegrate if not used within 48 hours of
manufacture. :-)

Pat
someone@some.domain - 10 Jul 2007 19:49 GMT
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>stuff.
>http://www.houseofhobbies.com/mimilidefi.html

it's good, especiallt on the old dried ones.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 10 Jul 2007 14:44 GMT
> I had an old, I mean like 4 years old, set of decals from Yellowhead
> decals for my Black Cat PBY-5A and they came apart before they got off
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>
> Lance

In addition to the overcoating that others have mentioned, I always
now scan the decal sheet for older models and keep the file in my
computer till I finish the kit. If the decals get trashed I have some
hopes of making new ones, either myself or by one of friends in local
club who have Alps printers.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 10 Jul 2007 14:44 GMT
> I had an old, I mean like 4 years old, set of decals from Yellowhead
> decals for my Black Cat PBY-5A and they came apart before they got off
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Lance

In addition to the overcoating that others have mentioned, I always
now scan the decal sheet for older models and keep the file in my
computer till I finish the kit. If the decals get trashed I have some
hopes of making new ones, either myself or by one of friends in local
club who have Alps printers.
Disco58 - 11 Jul 2007 01:33 GMT
I'm completely unfamiliar with Yellowhead, so I can't say anything on their
quality, or lack thereof.  I have, however, used decals almost twenty years
old and they worked fine.  I have also had newer ones turn to itsy bitsy
slivers.  One experiment I tried on some old (15 yrs+) Monogram decals
(two identical sets from two identical kits of equal age) was coat
specific images from one set with Microscale decal coating, the other
images on that sheet and the entire other sheet left original.  I let the
coating sit for two days, then dippped the same decal image from both sets
in water.  The original fell apart virtually instantly, the coated image
worked like brand new.  Other images from the coating test sheet were
tried uncoated, and they also went to pieces.  So I'm now a firm believer
in the Microscale coating.  I haven't tried Future yet, but I will one of
these days just for grins.  It's a whole lot cheaper than the Microscale
coating, so if it works as well....  If it doesn't, so be it, I'll buy the
Microscale.
Bluepen - 11 Jul 2007 03:43 GMT
Thanks, as always.  I love how you get the answers you need here.

Lance

>I'm completely unfamiliar with Yellowhead, so I can't say anything on their
>quality, or lack thereof.  I have, however, used decals almost twenty years
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>coating, so if it works as well....  If it doesn't, so be it, I'll buy the
>Microscale.
maiesm72@netscape.com - 11 Jul 2007 23:12 GMT
> Thanks, as always.  I love how you get the answers you need here.
>
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Thanks for making me feel REALLY old!

"Old" decals of four years? Fifteen years? Twenty years? I just
finished a Heller MS.230 and used ABT decals from the md-1960s! Not
long ago I used some HisAirDec decals from the same period. The
Testor's Glosscoat has always worked for me. I have the Microscale
stuff, but havn't used it yet. Future always goes on after decal
application, so that's pretty much a given.

When you photocopy decals just in case you might want to print them
directly onto white decal stock. Otherwise you'll have to hand paint
the white if using clear stock.

Cheers,

Tom
Larry Miller - 14 Jul 2007 22:17 GMT
I think he means Yellowhammer.

> I'm completely unfamiliar with Yellowhead, so I can't say anything on
> their
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> coating, so if it works as well....  If it doesn't, so be it, I'll buy the
> Microscale.
 
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