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maiesm72@netscape.com - 15 Jul 2007 05:26 GMT
I was terrible at algebra.

Anybody here know the answer to this one:

20 mm is equal to 1/76 scale

25 mm is equal to 1/72 scale

28 mm is equal to what?

TIA,

Tom
Jack Bohn - 15 Jul 2007 11:31 GMT
>I was terrible at algebra.
>
>Anybody here know the answer to this one:
>
>20 mm is equal to 1/76 scale

20 mm * 76 = 1.52 m

>25 mm is equal to 1/72 scale

25 mm * 72 = 1.8 m

So you can see there's already a little slop in the scaling.

>28 mm is equal to what?

1.8 m / 28 mm = 64

or, rather, 28 mm / 1.8 m = 1/64

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Wayne C. Morris - 15 Jul 2007 15:30 GMT
> >I was terrible at algebra.
> >
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>
> So you can see there's already a little slop in the scaling.

Which means that if the OP is talking about human figures, the first one
is really 1/90 scale:

20 mm / 1.8 m = 1/90

> >28 mm is equal to what?
>
> 1.8 m / 28 mm = 64
>
> or, rather, 28 mm / 1.8 m = 1/64

And in case the OP is also terrible at metric:

1.52 m * 3.28 ft/m = 5 ft
1.8 m  * 3.28 ft/m = 5.9 ft = 5 ft 11 in

Since I assume the OP is trying to work out the scale for a 28mm figure,
I'll point out that people aren't all 6 feet tall, so you could use 20,
25, and 28mm figures together to represent people of different heights...

At 1/76 scale:

 20 mm * 76  = 1.5 m  = 5 ft 0 in
 25 mm * 76  = 1.9 m  = 6 ft 3 in
 28 mm * 76  = 2.1 m  = 7 ft 0 in

At 1/72 scale:

 20 mm * 72  = 1.4 m = 4 ft 9 in
 25 mm * 72  = 1.8 m = 5 ft 11 in
 28 mm * 72  = 2.0 m = 6 ft 7 in

At 1/64 scale:

 20 mm * 64  = 1.3 m  = 4 ft 2 in
 25 mm * 64  = 1.6 m  = 5 ft 3 in
 28 mm * 64  = 1.8 m  = 5 ft 11 in
Val Kraut - 15 Jul 2007 15:45 GMT
Part of the problem is figures versus mechanical things like tanks. The
military miniatures (figures) were popular in what was called 54mm scale.
That is the distance from the base to the eyes was 54mm. I believe this kind
of measure was selected because head gear differed greatly in height - kepi
versus bearskin hat as an example. Then much later military equipment
standardized in scales like 1/32 and 1/35. Close to 54mm but not exactly.
Many today refer to 54 mm as 1/35th - the figures are scaled to go with the
tanks. The war game folks used smaller figures - and many of them - they
called it 25 mm. Again selected independently of the 1/N scales. So its a
matter of coming as close as you can. Scaling against a "standard height" as
mentioned by other posters is the only way I know. But for 54 mm then you'd
have to scale height of the figures eyes. Which is probably less than 6
feet. There were some interesting early sets I can remember when Tamiya
scaled British troops the same as Japanese and they all looked too short.
Then they overcorreceted with a set of 8th army infantry that looked like
tall bean poles. - I also remember some sets where you couldn't match with
each other - the figures were the same height - but the equipment was of
different sizes. At any rate the formula provided in the earlier post is
probably the best way to go.

                                                                           
                                                                           
                                           Val Kraut

>I was terrible at algebra.
>
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> Tom
maiesm72@netscape.com - 16 Jul 2007 07:07 GMT
> Part of the problem is figures versus mechanical things like tanks. The
> military miniatures (figures) were popular in what was called 54mm scale.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

1/64 scale it is. I think that the scale is a bit too large to fit
1/72-1/76 figures. The buildings and diorama items such as trenches
should look right.

I think that the equipment worn/carried by the figures would look out
of scale, especially if used with 1/72 scale items, even worse with
1/76 items.

Thanks guys,

Tom
John - 16 Jul 2007 16:02 GMT
>I was terrible at algebra.
>
>Anybody here know the answer to this one:

Here is a handy little file that I picked up on the modeling forum in
Compuserve a long while back - has come in very handy for me many
times to answer just such questions.

John Alger
IPMS 10906
Charlotte Scale Modelers
John - 16 Jul 2007 16:06 GMT
>I was terrible at algebra.
>
>Anybody here know the answer to this one:

This forum does not allow binaries, so look in alt.models.binaries for
my post for Scale Calculator. A nifty file I picked up on CompuServe a
long while back that had been very handy. Small size (230k) but works
great.

John Alger
IPMS 10906
Charlotte Scale Modelers
John - 16 Jul 2007 16:19 GMT
> look in alt.models.binaries

Oops!  Make that alt.binaries.models.scale

Sorry about that.

John Alger
IPMS 10906
Charlotte Scale Modelers
 
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